All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

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seacoaster wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:14 pm The Delta Blues is at least pushing up the vax rates/percentages, but the trailing states are still way behind where they should be, and will possibly drag the rest of us down. The South is a storm anchor when we need more steerage way:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... delta.html

"After weeks of stagnation, the United States vaccination campaign has had a relatively successful month, with vaccine uptake rising from early-summer lows in every state in the country.

The upswing in vaccinations has come alongside an extended, and much more pronounced, increase in coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths in the United States over the past two months. Public health officials say that in their communities, residents have been driven to get the vaccine by worries that the more-transmissible Delta variant might make them, or their loved ones, sick.

“The reason why we’ve seen the marked increase in demand is fear, it’s the Delta variant,” said Robert Ator, the retired National Guard colonel who runs Arkansas’ vaccination effort.

The increase in vaccinations has been especially pronounced in states where immunization levels were (and remain) below the national average of 61 percent. Many of those states have felt the effects of the Delta-led fourth wave most acutely.

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Public health officials said that some areas with lower vaccine coverage, especially rural ones, just hadn’t been severely affected by the virus until the Delta surge.

“Some communities are seeing Covid close up now,” said Dr. Mandy Cohen, the secretary of the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services. “They’ve seen it on the news, but that’s not the same as seeing it close up.”

That proximity is driving behavior change across the country.

“The virus is coming to visit these communities and they are starting to feel the pinch,” said Colonel Ator. “When they start seeing their friends and families being affected by this, then it becomes a reality.”

States that have seen larger increases in new cases since their early-summer nadirs, such as Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi, tend to be those with bigger increases in new vaccinations.

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Some of the recent rise in immunizations is due to teens and tweens who are heading back to school, but the bulk of the increase is from working-age Americans, public health officials say and data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirms.

And while new vaccinations may be flattening now overall in the U.S., health officials do not expect them to return to previous lows any time soon, especially after the Food and Drug Administration granted full approval to the Pfizer vaccine on Monday. That move is likely to spur new vaccinations, in ways both direct — 31 percent of unvaccinated people surveyed in a June poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation indicated they would be more open to getting the jab once a vaccine was fully approved — and indirect, as it sets the stage for new vaccine requirements by organizations including corporations, hospitals and colleges.

While the uptick in new vaccinations — first doses — has been the subject of particular interest, total vaccine doses, comprising first and second jabs, have been on the rise as well. They will likely continue to increase as third doses complicate the picture.

The F.D.A. this month opened eligibility for third shots for some people with weakened immune systems. And last week, the Biden administration strongly recommended that Americans who received the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna coronavirus vaccines get a booster shot eight months after their second vaccine dose. If the F.D.A. approves that recommendation, boosters will be available starting in late September.

However, there is evidence that about 1.2 million people in the U.S. may have already received unauthorized additional doses before these announcements were made, according to the C.D.C.

Note: Not all states had hit their lowest weekly vaccinations in early June, when Delta was on the verge of becoming dominant, and some only had mild growth in late July and August. As a result, these states may show a decrease in vaccinations in this analysis.
After watching worries about the Delta variant drive up vaccinations across the U.S., some state officials say they are adjusting their messaging to focus on the stories of people who have experienced Covid-19 illness or death firsthand.

North Dakota is developing an “Impact Wall,” a website with a collection of videos and photos from those who have been sick or lost a loved one.

And Arkansas has produced a televised public service announcement featuring a pregnant woman who had a near-death experience with Covid. In the video, she and her husband encourage Arkansans to get vaccinated.

“We have a rural couple talking to small rural communities,” Colonel Ator said. “Instead of a guy wearing a tie, I would much rather have the locals talking to them.”
“We have a rural couple talking to small rural communities,” Colonel Ator said. “Instead of a guy wearing a tie, I would much rather have the locals talking to them.”

Too stupid to listen to someone wearing a tie?

F’em!
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Getting vaccinated to save others during a pandemic is a personal choice, but what a woman does with her own body should be mandated by the government?
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ggait wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:56 pm
Looks like your vaccine efficacy has expired, better get another shot.
Peace out.
Such weasel, BS, gas-lighting.

The problem isn't vaxed people whose immunity is maybe down 15-30%.

The problem is the mouth breathers who refuse the first shot.

We're off to Hawaii for a vacation soon. HI is basically off limits to any traveler without a vax or a bunch of negative tests. That's good for HI natives, good for HI businesses and economy, good for HI schools, and good for the travelers to HI. Mouth breathers can exercise "muh ruy-iots" by staying home.

Works for me. Aloha!!
gg, you realize that the Govenor is asking you not to come right?
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Hawaii has not announced any new travel restrictions, which they are free to do. And if they dial back gathering limits or require masks in certain places, we of course are fine with that and would comply. Because we are not selfish, dumb, science denying, mouth breathing, a-holes whining about muh ruy-iots. We're just regular folks with common sense.

FYI, because of their vax-based Safe Hawaii travel restrictions, less than 1% of cases in HI are from visitors. And according to HI's Lt. Gov. (who happens to be a practicing ER doc), HI is overall doing extremely well with visitors. And also generally pretty well -- lowest cases and mortality among the entire 50 states, #3 in vax rate.

So Lt. Gov and Dr. Josh Green says it is fine to come. Because the people who are going into the hospital are the unvaxed. And the visitors are vaxed.
The problem, no surprise, is locals who are anti-vax morons. Just like in other places, the unvaxed are letting us down.

So so long as you are not a dumb ass mouth breather, AOK to come visit.
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ggait wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:34 pm Hawaii has not announced any new travel restrictions, which they are free to do. And if they dial back gathering limits or require masks in certain places, we of course are fine with that and would comply. Because we are not selfish, dumb, science denying, mouth breathing, a-holes whining about muh ruy-iots. We're just regular folks with common sense.

FYI, because of their vax-based Safe Hawaii travel restrictions, less than 1% of cases in HI are from visitors. And according to HI's Lt. Gov. (who happens to be a practicing ER doc), HI is overall doing extremely well with visitors. And also generally pretty well -- lowest cases and mortality among the entire 50 states, #3 in vax rate.

So Lt. Gov and Dr. Josh Green says it is fine to come. Because the people who are going into the hospital are the unvaxed. And the visitors are vaxed.
The problem, no surprise, is locals who are anti-vax morons. Just like in other places, the unvaxed are letting us down.

So so long as you are not a dumb ass mouth breather, AOK to come visit.
Yeah it’s nice to be an island state and have to monitor two means of entry.
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Do they not have competent legal counsel in Arkansas available to the local municipalities?

"Inmates at a north-west Arkansas jail have been prescribed a medicine for treating coronavirus that is normally used to deworm livestock, despite federal health warnings to the public in exasperated tones.

Washington county’s sheriff confirmed this week that the jail’s health provider had been prescribing the drug.

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the federal drugs regulator, issued a warning via Twitter last weekend.

“You are not a horse,” it said. “You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.”

Sheriff Tim Helder did not say how many inmates at the 710-bed facility had been given ivermectin and defended the health provider that has been prescribing the medication.“Whatever a doctor prescribes, that is not in my bailiwick,” Helder told members of the Washington county quorum court, the county’s governing body.

Helder did not immediately respond to a call from the Associated Press, and a spokesperson for the sheriff’s office referred questions to Karas Correctional Health, the jail’s health provider.'



OMDog are they going to get the shite sued out of them. Sheriff Tim sounds like a forking genius.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:05 pm Do they not have competent legal counsel in Arkansas available to the local municipalities?

"Inmates at a north-west Arkansas jail have been prescribed a medicine for treating coronavirus that is normally used to deworm livestock, despite federal health warnings to the public in exasperated tones.

Washington county’s sheriff confirmed this week that the jail’s health provider had been prescribing the drug.

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the federal drugs regulator, issued a warning via Twitter last weekend.

“You are not a horse,” it said. “You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.”

Sheriff Tim Helder did not say how many inmates at the 710-bed facility had been given ivermectin and defended the health provider that has been prescribing the medication.“Whatever a doctor prescribes, that is not in my bailiwick,” Helder told members of the Washington county quorum court, the county’s governing body.

Helder did not immediately respond to a call from the Associated Press, and a spokesperson for the sheriff’s office referred questions to Karas Correctional Health, the jail’s health provider.'



OMDog are they going to get the shite sued out of them. Sheriff Tim sounds like a forking genius.
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CU88 wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:33 pm Getting vaccinated to save others during a pandemic is a personal choice, but what a woman does with her own body should be mandated by the government?
... more than a little cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy there.
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Arkansas medical officials are investigating claims that inmates inside of a county jail were prescribed an anti-parasite drug as a remedy for COVID-19 despite the drug not having any approval to treat the coronavirus.
A Dr. prescribed a drug off-label... happens all the time. I'm certainly not a lawyer, thank god, but how is this different from your GP filling an off-label script for you? If this winds up in court, seems to me any outcome will depend on what leeway a prison's physician has under the law.

The medical officials, led by Board Director Amy Embry did not delve into the specifics of their investigation on Thursday. The investigation, which began on Tuesday, was the result of numerous complaints about the use of ivermectin at the Washington County Jail.
"complaints"? What the heck does that mean? Who's complaining?

The Washington County Sheriff’s office confirmed to reporters that some inmates were in fact prescribed the drug, but declined to give a total number.
They weren't forced apparently.

Ivermectin is used to treat parasites. Investigators are also looking into if all of the inmates who were prescribed the drug had previously tested positive for COVID-19.

“There is an open investigation and we can’t comment on it right now,” Embry said.

The Food and Drug Administration has only approved ivermectin for use by people and animals for certain types of parasitic worms, head lice, and other skin conditions, ABC News reported. The regulator has not approved the drug to treat COVID-19.
So what? There are many drugs approved for one thing but prescribed for another.

“Using any treatment for COVID-19 that’s not approved or authorized by the FDA, unless part of a clinical trial, can cause serious harm,” the agency said in a warning about ivermectin.
All drugs can cause serious harm if not administered properly.

Meanwhile the jail’s resident physician, Dr. Rob Karas, is seeking to avert the blame for the situation, saying that he did not force any inmates to take the drug.
"seeking to avert blame"? What a bullsh!t leading line that is...

“I do not have the luxury of conducting my own clinical trial or study and am not attempting to do so,” Karas wrote in a statement. “I am on the front line of trying to prevent death and serious illness.”
Good for him...sounds like a caring physician.

In a July 20 email, Karas recommended that sheriff’s staff take ivermectin as a preventive measure against COVID-19. He also said that he took the drug along with members of his family.
He and his family have also been taking the drug. In the court of public opinion, that absolves him.

Prescriptions for the anti-parasitical drug have increased exponentially over the last two weeks with more than 88,000 prescriptions being filled. In relation to that, calls to poison control centers about ivermectin have also increased significantly with five times higher call volumes than normal.
More leading bullsh!t. What proof does this article offer that there's a direct connection? The increase probably has more to do with increased opioid abuse rather than anything else.

In Arkansas and Mississippi, health officials this week warned members of the public to not take the veterinary form of the drug as a response to the dramatic rise in calls to poison control centers.
Right. Don't take IVM unless proper protocols are followed. SOP for any drug whether used off-label or not.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also warned doctors against ivermectin prescriptions being ordered to treat COVID-19, adding that no evidence supported the medicine being used for any other reason besides its manufactured intentions.
More bullsh!t. See FLCCC group of doctors in NYC who have seen positive outcomes using IVM against Covid.
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There's no magical exception for a doctor stupidly prescribing a drug off-label for something he explicitly knows is not an authorized or approved usage, indeed has been warned not to prescribe for this purpose.

Now, the question of damages is another thing...but if patients took the drug on this advice and either were harmed directly by the drug or were told that they now had immunity and thus did not need to take other protective measures to avoid infection and then were infected, liability indeed would be on the doctor who made that off-label prescription.

But yeah, the doctor should lose his license, pay any liability penalty found, and the county folks may well be liable in other ways.

That said, if no one ended up being poisoned or otherwise harmed, there's not really liability.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:23 am There's no magical exception for a doctor stupidly prescribing a drug off-label for something he explicitly knows is not an authorized or approved usage, indeed has been warned not to prescribe for this purpose.
"stupidly"?...think you're offering an "out of school" opinion once again.

Now, the question of damages is another thing...but if patients took the drug on this advice and either were harmed directly by the drug or were told that they now had immunity and thus did not need to take other protective measures to avoid infection and then were infected, liability indeed would be on the doctor who made that off-label prescription.
If the physician/inmates followed proper protocols, there won't be any harm caused, based upon decades of safe IVM usage in humans.

But yeah, the doctor should lose his license, pay any liability penalty found, and the county folks may well be liable in other ways.

That said, if no one ended up being poisoned or otherwise harmed, there's not really liability.
Seems correct.
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Perhaps this has been put out there, perhaps not but this is a July 28 meta on Ivermectin. Read and conclude what you want.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/do ... .pub2/full

Still waiting on the results of the PRINCIPLE trial. Hopefully those will be out soon-ish'

Edit: Incorrect spelling of trial.
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Bart wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:54 am Perhaps this has been put out there, perhaps not but this is a July 28 meta on Ivermectin. Read and conclude what you want.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/do ... .pub2/full

Still waiting on the results of the PRINCIPAL trial. Hopefully those will be out soon-ish'
Which "PRINCIPAL" trial are you referring to?
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tech37 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:56 am
Bart wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:54 am Perhaps this has been put out there, perhaps not but this is a July 28 meta on Ivermectin. Read and conclude what you want.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/do ... .pub2/full

Still waiting on the results of the PRINCIPAL trial. Hopefully those will be out soon-ish'
Which "PRINCIPAL" trial are you referring to?
I just edited the original post for an incorrect spelling of the trial....my bad.(8/27, 8:07)

https://www.principletrial.org/news/ive ... iple-trial

I have been unable to find either results or cancellation of the trial. I am assuming they are waiting on data? IDK. Seems like a good RCT to me.

In a different vein, here is a review of mRNA vaccines from Nature Reviews: Drug Discovery. Whether you agree or not with the platform it is a very interesting read.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41573-021-00283-5
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Source of Ivermectin information and prescription (Hydroxychloroquine as well). $90 plus cost of meds. One stop shopping, how convenient?
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Bart wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:06 am
tech37 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:56 am
Bart wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:54 am Perhaps this has been put out there, perhaps not but this is a July 28 meta on Ivermectin. Read and conclude what you want.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/do ... .pub2/full

Still waiting on the results of the PRINCIPAL trial. Hopefully those will be out soon-ish'
Which "PRINCIPAL" trial are you referring to?
I just edited the original post for an incorrect spelling of the trial....my bad.(8/27, 8:07)

https://www.principletrial.org/news/ive ... iple-trial

I have been unable to find either results or cancellation of the trial. I am assuming they are waiting on data? IDK. Seems like a good RCT to me.

In a different vein, here is a review of mRNA vaccines from Nature Reviews: Drug Discovery. Whether you agree or not with the platform it is a very interesting read.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41573-021-00283-5
thanks bart. reading thru principle, they note inhaled budesonide as a potentially effective therapeutic, and that uk, canada and india are using.

one small study of budesonide:
https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2213 ... 0/fulltext

couple things: have not heard of this, at all.
i had read last year in several spots that nebulizing drugs so they can much more efficiently get into lungs and blood could be a real game changer.
for more effectively fighting where covid gets bad, and for utilizing much smaller dosages for drugs that are only effective in the petri dish at higher levels. i've been waiting to see if there was ever going to be a nebulizer boom.

also... why are these "early" trials always using 7 and sometimes14 days as a cutoff for early? seems like maybe 4 -5 days might be a better idea... symptom, test, result, come in within 2 days.

anyway, corticosteroids again.
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Get your masks for winter. Kids need the right size.

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... ource=copy

Here is some of the text, link above has graphics and hyperlinks.

Schools: Mitigation measures in the light of Delta

Katelyn Jetelina

We know that mitigation measures like masks, ventilation, and distancing worked very well in schools last year. Study after study after study after study after study showed this. But this was pre-Delta. Do the same mitigation measures still work in schools? This is what we know so far…

Transmission

In the beginning of the pandemic, we were most concerned about droplets of transmission. But we learned quickly (or not so quickly) that aerosol transmission is mainly driving this disease. In July 2020, 239 scientists wrote a letter to the World Health Organization indicating their concern about aerosol transmission. In April 2021, the WHO changed their guidance and, in May 2021, the CDC changed its guidance that recognized airborne spread as a key mode of infection.

The difference between droplets and aerosol are the size and, thus, the implications of that size. Droplets are large (50-100 micrometers) and so they are heavier. Droplets can travel up to 6 feet, but then they fall to the ground due to gravity. This is why the famous 6 foot rule was implemented. People spread droplets by coughing and sneezing.

Aerosols, on the other hand, are much tinier (<5 micrometers) and lightweight, so they can become suspended in air and float. And you don’t need to sneeze or cough. These can be spread by just talking. Lab studies have shown that aerosols can stay in the air for up to 16 hours. So, a sick person doesn’t need to be in the room with you. They could be in the room before you and had left particles everywhere.

Surface (i.e. fomite) transmission is just not as common, but it can happen. Mathematical models estimated that each contact with a contaminated surface has a 1 in 10,000 chance of infection. In a recent study with hamsters, we saw that surface transmission can result in virus in the nose. But, importantly, the virus does not land directly into the lungs like aerosols do. So the virus replicates less, usually leading to less disease severity.


Leung, N.H.L. Transmissibility and transmission of respiratory viruses. Nat Rev Microbiol19, 528–545 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41579-021-00535-6
Delta is incredibly transmissible with a higher viral load. This changes how easy it enters our cells once it reaches us. It seems to becoming more aerosolized too. While washing hands is always a good idea and 3-6 foot distance helps with droplet transmission, we need effective measures to reduce aerosol transmission in schools.

Ventilation

This continues to be one of the best ways to curb transmission. An open window can do a lot to reduce transmission in the classroom from an infected student. The NYT did a great job visualizing the impact of a window in a classroom.


A study this week found that open windows in classrooms can have up to a 14.1 fold reduction in COVID19 transmission. This is highly dependent on the time of year (Summer, Spring, Winter), number of windows, and the frequency in which those windows are open. For example, an open window during the winter is much more impactful than an open window during the summer (14.1 fold decrease vs. 7.2 fold decrease). Also, just opening the window during recess can help a little but not as good as opening a window all day long.


A fan and clean air filter works great too. This can be accomplished using high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filtration systems. A Johns Hopkins study found that HEPA filters were responsible for a 65% drop in COVID-19 transmission. Another study found that one HEPA filter is as effective as two windows partly open all day during the winter (2.5-fold decrease in transmission). Two HEPA filters are even more effective (4-fold decrease in transmission).


Masks

Pre-Delta, we knew masks worked very well. Loose fitting masks, like double cloth masks, even still blocked 51% of particles. With Delta, though, we really need to start wearing better masks, especially those that are most vulnerable (i.e. unvaccinated). A Finland study found that Delta was transmitted among healthcare workers using surgical masks; it’s clear that N95’s work best in hospital settings where employees are constantly exposed to COVID-19.

A stimulation study that came out this week showed that, in classrooms, surgical masks reduce transmission 8-fold. Surgical masks have a great filter, but sometimes they are way too loose on kids. Fit and filter are very important with Delta. For great masks look for ASTM-certified surgical or tight-fitting cloth masks for kids. For fantastic masks, look for KN95 or KF94 made for kids. N95’s are not made for kids, so do not buy them for kids to wear; they don’t fit correctly. Dr. Eva Enns from the University of Minnesota School of Public Health put together an amazing list with specific kid mask brands here. Dr. Linsey Marr at Virigina Tech also made an amazing list here.

Outdoor transmission

There is no shortage of anecdotal evidence of outdoor transmission with Delta, especially in shoulder-to-shoulder activities like festivals. In Melbourne, two playgrounds and one skate park were exposure sites, which has fueled a stark debate about shutdowns in Australia. Importantly, these events seem to be largely crowded. Any time you’re close enough to breathe in air from someone else’s breath you have a chance of being infected. Being outdoors continues to be much less risky than indoors. Indoors can accumulate aerosols a whole lot more than outdoors. Think about it like smoking cigarettes. If someone is smoking cigarettes indoors, there is far more buildup over time than someone smoking outdoors.

Testing

With Delta, cases are going to happen in schools. Even if mitigation measures are in place. This virus is far too transmissible and contagious to not expect this. So, we need to identify cases proactively to stop the possibility of superspreader events. Schools need plans in place for testing, contact tracing, quarantining, and reporting. This includes supporting kids that are in quarantine through distanced learning. Your local health department will not have the bandwidth to do this, especially if you’re in a hotspot. There are great playbooks out there, though, to help guide testing strategies. Some states, like Texas, actually have frameworks. Rockefeller had a great playbook on this too.


Layered approach

The one thing that is incredibly clear is that we need a layered approach for Delta. Combined interventions (i.e., natural ventilation, masks, and HEPA filtration) are the most effective in schools (≥30-fold decrease in transmission). The more layers we have, the less chance virus gets through the Swiss cheese to your kid. This is an ever evolving landscape and we need to adapt and advocate accordingly.

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