Conservatives and Liberals

[Seacoaster(1)]

But she’s always talkin’ ‘bout Jesus??

https://www.ky3.com/2023/09/30/arkansas ... ntent=kytv

Sanders apparently used $19,000 in taxpayer funds to pay for friends/lobbyists to travel to France and rather than coming out with the truth, she had the Arkansas GOP pay for a non-existent podium, then was forced to buy a real podium on Amazon to trot out for journalists.

[OCanada]

All the good looking women are in the GOP per MGT’s bf.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

[youthathletics]

All the good looking women are in the GOP per MGT’s bf.

Who is MGT...or do you mean MTG?

[youthathletics]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.

And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.

[MDlaxfan76]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.

And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.

Well, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.

I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.

The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.

While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.

So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...

[Seacoaster(1)]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.

And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.

Well, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.

I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.

The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.

While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.

So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...

Agreed YA, about Gaetz types running around emboldened.

If Gaetz has four or five other people who will not support McCarthy/who will vote for McCarthy's ouster, that appears to be enough to cripple the Speaker's chair, unless McCarthy gets five or six or more Democrats and can cajole the rest of HIS caucus to support him. Sh*tshow anyone?

Another question: what is Gaetz's "plan" -- other than creating a televised sh*tshow, and crippling the House?

[MDlaxfan76]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.

And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.

Well, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.

I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.

The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.

While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.

So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...

Agreed YA, about Gaetz types running around emboldened.

If Gaetz has four or five other people who will not support McCarthy/who will vote for McCarthy's ouster, that appears to be enough to cripple the Speaker's chair, unless McCarthy gets five or six or more Democrats and can cajole the rest of HIS caucus to support him. Sh*tshow anyone?

Another question: what is Gaetz's "plan" -- other than creating a televised sh*tshow, and crippling the House?

small dollar donations

[Farfromgeneva]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

With Matt Gaetz looking like even more of a drooling pos.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.

And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.

Well, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.

I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.

The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.

While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.

So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...

Agreed YA, about Gaetz types running around emboldened.

If Gaetz has four or five other people who will not support McCarthy/who will vote for McCarthy's ouster, that appears to be enough to cripple the Speaker's chair, unless McCarthy gets five or six or more Democrats and can cajole the rest of HIS caucus to support him. Sh*tshow anyone?

Another question: what is Gaetz's "plan" -- other than creating a televised sh*tshow, and crippling the House?

small dollar donations

You may mean this tongue in cheek, but I think this may be the size of it.

[MDlaxfan76]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.

And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.

Well, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.

I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.

The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.

While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.

So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...

Agreed YA, about Gaetz types running around emboldened.

If Gaetz has four or five other people who will not support McCarthy/who will vote for McCarthy's ouster, that appears to be enough to cripple the Speaker's chair, unless McCarthy gets five or six or more Democrats and can cajole the rest of HIS caucus to support him. Sh*tshow anyone?

Another question: what is Gaetz's "plan" -- other than creating a televised sh*tshow, and crippling the House?

small dollar donations

You may mean this tongue in cheek, but I think this may be the size of it.

Frankly, I think this is what Gaetz (and other most extreme a-holes) cares about most, whatever gets him clicks and views and thus donations. Serious donors won't support him, but thousands and thousands of small donors will...because it gives them a thrill to see a (fascist/nihilist) 'fighting for them'.

Could be about personal self-aggrandizement as well, the mini-me of Trumpian narcissism.

[Farfromgeneva]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.

And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.

Well, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.

I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.

The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.

While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.

So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...

Theyre just going to vote “present” and let Gaetz piss his pants.

There’s no upside to helping him blow McCarthy out. Skeletons exist everywhere so no point in opening doors when you know what you’ve got with the Squirrel from the sticks of Cali.

[MDlaxfan76]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.

And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.

Well, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.

I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.

The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.

While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.

So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...

Theyre just going to vote “present” and let Gaetz tick his pants.

There’s no upside to helping him blow McCarthy out. Skeletons exist everywhere so no point in opening doors when you know what you’ve got with the Squirrel from the sticks of Cali.

Dem Leadership is sending strong signal, no help for McCarthy...that could be a first salvo given that McCarthy had already said he wouldn't work for Dem support, wouldn't make any agreements...what gets done behind closed doors may be different.

But my hunch is that any deal will get made with someone else... I don't think there's anyone who can actually hold moderate GOP with the extremes. And ultimately the moderates understand that a sh-tshow, closed government, abandonment of Ukraine, and nonsensical social plays will result in massive losses in 2024.

[MDlaxfan76]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

With Matt Gaetz looking like even more of a drooling pos.

Putz.

[Kismet]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

With Matt Gaetz looking like even more of a drooling pos.

Putz.

He has been forced to speak from the Democratic side of the chamber because his fellow Republicans have banned him from using their side of the aisle. Nuts

[MDlaxfan76]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

With Matt Gaetz looking like even more of a drooling pos.

Putz.

He has been forced to speak from the Democratic side of the chamber because his fellow Republicans have banned him from using their side of the aisle. Nuts

Flamer; was pretty interesting listening to conservative pragmatists argue with extremists.
Got pretty darn heated.

[youthathletics]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Here we go...https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

[Kismet]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Here we go...https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

What else to expect from the ASSHAT caucus? This is all performative devoid of all substance or conviction.

Two of the BIGGEST weasels (after McCarthy of course) are Buck and Mace who spend most of their time grooming themselves on TV.
In addition, to being dimwits.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Here we go...https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

From Twitter:

So the GOP just sh*tcanned their own Speaker after bringing the country to the brink of a government shutdown, while their presidential frontrunner is in court for fraud and getting gagged by the judge for defaming the clerk.

I guess the big question then is: what about Joe Biden’s age?

[PizzaSnake]

Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?

Here we go...https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

What else to expect from the ASSHAT caucus? This is all performative devoid of all substance or conviction.

Two of the BIGGEST weasels (after McCarthy of course) are Buck and Mace who spend most of their time grooming themselves on TV.
In addition, to being dimwits.

Self-groomers…

Don’t they know it’ll make ‘em blind?