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Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:37 am
by tech37
Of course, the White House white wash continues. Who didn't see this coming for miles?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:43 am
by tech37
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:43 pm I think we all know that tech37 is way, way down the rathole of conspiracy nutjobs on these issues.

No one with actual credible expertise is to be trusted, just the whack job snake oil folks...it's "opinions" that go against the consensus of actual experts.... so it must be true!

But hey, he's consistent.
Your "actual experts" are political hacks. I realize you and Tried and True find comforting pablum within the politically corrupt institutions. Good for you.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am
by tech37
Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:06 am
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:06 am
by MDlaxfan76
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:43 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:43 pm I think we all know that tech37 is way, way down the rathole of conspiracy nutjobs on these issues.

No one with actual credible expertise is to be trusted, just the whack job snake oil folks...it's "opinions" that go against the consensus of actual experts.... so it must be true!

But hey, he's consistent.
Your "actual experts" are political hacks. I realize you and Tried and True find comforting pablum within the politically corrupt institutions. Good for you.
:roll:

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:15 am
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition
A lot of valid points in that piece. We will see how boosters are rolled out. It has always been suggested from the beginning days of the vaccine development that we might need a booster. Thanks for posting it.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:17 am
by MDlaxfan76
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition
A reasonable set of questions and arguments, so I'd want to hear from those who are actually involved in the studies and development of boosters. Has the author misstated or misinformed the reader in any way in making the case that we should do more analysis before rushing to boosters? (seems reasonable that we'd want good data, but is he really aware of what's been studied?). He's a hematologist, not an expert in infectious diseases or vaccines.

The ethical argument is an interesting one, that the world needs first shots before we use those resources to layer on still another level of immunity among the richer countries...it may also have a practical benefit of reducing total disease transmission and thus variants.

But it's not the same as suggesting that we (family members) shouldn't be looking to boost the resistance to severe disease among our most vulnerable family and friends.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:19 am
by MDlaxfan76
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:37 am
Of course, the White House white wash continues. Who didn't see this coming for miles?
I mean, it's so obvious that it's all a huge international conspiracy to whitewash the truth.
:roll:

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:21 am
by MDlaxfan76
tech37 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:10 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:07 pm ... and right! :lol:
:D How many shares of Merck do you and your Dr. wife own?
How many shares of Bajaj Healthcare do you own?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:38 am
by kramerica.inc
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:34 am
So much for the Hippocratic Oath?

This is "Tried And True's" kind of physician :roll:
Doctors Announce They Will No Longer Treat Car Accident Victims Who Didn't Wear Their Seat Belt
https://babylonbee.com/news/doctors-ann ... -seat-belt

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:40 am
by kramerica.inc

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:59 am
by wgdsr
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:38 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:34 am
So much for the Hippocratic Oath?

This is "Tried And True's" kind of physician :roll:
Doctors Announce They Will No Longer Treat Car Accident Victims Who Didn't Wear Their Seat Belt
https://babylonbee.com/news/doctors-ann ... -seat-belt
lol.
maybe tld and mdlax have shares in acme seatbelt co.

when are we gonna have a bmi reading for everyone trying to check into er? isn't that typically our largest problem?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:02 am
by wgdsr
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition
maybe israel will give a readout prior to sept 20. like in 3 plus weeks.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:19 am
by Kismet
wgdsr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:02 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition
maybe israel will give a readout prior to sept 20. like in 3 plus weeks.
Perhaps not an official readout but take a look

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vac ... to-america

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:31 am
by youthathletics
Kismet wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:19 am
wgdsr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:02 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition
maybe israel will give a readout prior to sept 20. like in 3 plus weeks.
Perhaps not an official readout but take a look

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vac ... to-america
jnj on the scene: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... six-months

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:37 am
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:59 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:38 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:34 am
So much for the Hippocratic Oath?

This is "Tried And True's" kind of physician :roll:
Doctors Announce They Will No Longer Treat Car Accident Victims Who Didn't Wear Their Seat Belt
https://babylonbee.com/news/doctors-ann ... -seat-belt
lol.
maybe tld and mdlax have shares in acme seatbelt co.

when are we gonna have a bmi reading for everyone trying to check into er? isn't that typically our largest problem?
I own some insurance companies….. its a scam. Don’t buy a life, home or auto policy.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:37 am
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:31 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:19 am
wgdsr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:02 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition
maybe israel will give a readout prior to sept 20. like in 3 plus weeks.
Perhaps not an official readout but take a look

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vac ... to-america
jnj on the scene: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... six-months
“They lyin”

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:00 am
by wgdsr
Kismet wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:19 am
wgdsr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:02 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition
maybe israel will give a readout prior to sept 20. like in 3 plus weeks.
Perhaps not an official readout but take a look

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vac ... to-america
careful, kismet. i've been trying to throw some data out on israel and waning and it wasn't received well. what, you think 2 doses are useless?

israel has played a large part in our policies since july, for those that aren't aware. their timeline has informed us and we're using it. what we won't see (in 3 weeks) as alluded to in the article, is intermediate to long term effects for safety. nowhere near even what we did at trials. didn't just one vaxx regimen get full approval yesterday after a year+?

i'm also dubious that with just several weeks of data on younger, healthier cohorts... that we'll see much in the way anything other than antibody jumps for boosters. maybe some on hospitalizations, but unlikely in a country the size of israel much in deaths as it'll be way underpowered. as will hospitalizations for anything but the very short term, and even then. there'll be bigger infection numbers, and we'll assume benefits from there.

but we're going to pass out 100s of millions of doses maybe.

meantime, i'm assuming someone is using this mrna platform to tweak those vaxxes for better to handle variants. what if they're ready in 3 mos? and everyone just got boosted?

strange times. take it. whadaya got to lose?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:29 am
by tech37
Kismet wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:19 am
wgdsr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:02 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:56 am Are We Jumping the Gun on COVID Boosters?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vi ... definition
maybe israel will give a readout prior to sept 20. like in 3 plus weeks.
Perhaps not an official readout but take a look

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vac ... to-america
Might this outlier have been correct all along?

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... en-bossche

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:11 am
by MDlaxfan76
wgdsr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:59 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:38 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:34 am
So much for the Hippocratic Oath?

This is "Tried And True's" kind of physician :roll:
Doctors Announce They Will No Longer Treat Car Accident Victims Who Didn't Wear Their Seat Belt
https://babylonbee.com/news/doctors-ann ... -seat-belt
lol.
maybe tld and mdlax have shares in acme seatbelt co.

when are we gonna have a bmi reading for everyone trying to check into er? isn't that typically our largest problem?
:lol:
Roadrunner, beep, beep!

I don't think we'll see a lot of docs taking this position, but I do think we're going to see a ton of mandates and/or financial penalties for those who refuse to get vaccinated, ala Delta Airline's just announced $200 per month additional healthcare premium for all unvaccinated workers.