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Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:10 am Conservatives tend to laugh and sneer at the Green New Deal, but the frontal assaults on free market capitalism by the GND are quickly becoming Democratic orthodoxy.
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Trumpnista horseshlt.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:39 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:10 am Conservatives tend to laugh and sneer at the Green New Deal, but the frontal assaults on free market capitalism by the GND are quickly becoming Democratic orthodoxy.
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Trumpnista horseshlt.

The non-denial ‘denials’ are a regular occurrence here. Telling. Lol.

The short and sweet is that if we do not take care of mother earth, she will take care of us while dealing with consequences of our uncaring.

Big difference between caring and doing.

Jim Malone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:33 pm The short and sweet is that if we do not take care of mother earth, she will take care of us while dealing with consequences of our uncaring.

Big difference between caring and doing.

I'd say we are doing a great job, from this:

https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Cuyahoga_River_Fire

to this:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/envi ... -movement/

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:49 pm

Jim Malone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:33 pm The short and sweet is that if we do not take care of mother earth, she will take care of us while dealing with consequences of our uncaring.

Big difference between caring and doing.

I'd say we are doing a great job, from this:

https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Cuyahoga_River_Fire

to this:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/envi ... -movement/

The stupid EPA. More big government. Better to have let market forces determine clean up.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:11 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:07 pm Not too long ago, the 'scientists' were alarming us minions that a new ice age was comin'. Same boys now (echo'ed here on this website by FL Democrats) claim we are about to melt. Who am I to believe!

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/a ... 67,00.html

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/0 ... rmism.html

(I could list 1000's of these links...I won't because you get - or should get - my point)

Sure you can, so can I. Earth's climate is effected by two classes of physical phenomenon: 1) those which effect the source of earths heat energy at the source; and 2) what is going on inside and on the earths surface. You don't get a complete climate picture unless you consider what is going on with both.

Those hyperbolic articles were written when ONLY class #1 phenomenon were considered. The sun was "due" to go through a period of reduced solar output, both near term and less certainly long term. Ie, the earth was going to get colder. It is not clear if the long term reduction in output is or will happen. This "happening" was the source of the hyperbole.

When you consider (which was the case within a matter of a few years) phenomenon class #2, the earth was going to get warmer, because the effects of 2 were greater than 1.

So the question is, when the sun's near term output decreased (and it did), WHY DID THE EARTH NOT GET COLDER?? The temperature just kept going up.

And who is to say that in another 40 years scientists then laugh at today’s models? Did scientific progress end last year?

Models will change much like the temperature today. Anyone arrogant enough to think they know any answer today is bound to be considered lightly in the future. The likelihood of a global ice age is as high as global warming.

It's clear Pete is new here, we've discussed the cooling thing ad nauseum - it wasn't a serious scientific hypothesis then. Kind of like the anti-vaccine thing today, but he'll run with it because he doesn't understand what it means.

holmes435 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:38 am It's clear Pete is new here, we've discussed the cooling thing ad nauseum - it wasn't a serious scientific hypothesis then. Kind of like the anti-vaccine thing today, but he'll run with it because he doesn't understand what it means.

Yup. I was a graduate student at the time of this hyperbole, media hysteria. Working daily in a real physics department. No physicist anywhere considered this real or anything other than an interesting speculation / observation. I recall at Hopkins it garnered a lot of laughs (at the media) and was found very humorous at the weekly departmental colloquia. The only evidence for the speculation was the fact that as a planet we were approaching the calculated end of an average interglacial period. At the time the NY Yankees hadn't won a pennant in 7 years which was significantly longer than their average inter-pennant period at that time. It would be another 5 years before they won again. The new ice age was not exactly strong science. Typical press, take it and run with it. Even while the press was going crazy at the time real scientists were arguing (amongst themselves - NOT IN THE PRESS) an ice age was far less likely than what is recognized today as global warming. Then real scientific observation started to line up with that hypothesis. New York Yankee fans and the press were arguing annually they were "due" while real sports analysts were looking at the talent on the team and in the farm system and knew the pennant drought was far from over. Yankees didn't win again until they stole Reggie Jackson from the Oakland A's. They addressed the underlying team issues, being "due" is not good enough.

Today every Holiday Inn Express guest with a computer and a blog serving application is an expert.

Opinion: Trump's gutting of environmental rules is pushing us back into dark days of ignorance

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/25/opinions ... index.html

Regardless of where you stand on climate change, this ain't right.

CO2 store on fire: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... -emissions. I'm certain these fires that burn underground for a very long time are man made as well. Probably those damned people trying to make a new Scotch.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:29 pm https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... s-n1113711

What’s weird is as media hacks promote ‘global warming’ ( say it in a very scary tone please!), guys like Gore, Soros, and Obama keep snapping up oceanfront property!!

I wonder who the mark is here

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:50 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:29 pm https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... s-n1113711

What’s weird is as media hacks promote ‘global warming’ ( say it in a very scary tone please!), guys like Gore, Soros, and Obama keep snapping up oceanfront property!!

I wonder who the mark is here

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesreal ... 4c842e6d4d

https://amp.businessinsider.com/why-not ... rts-2019-8

https://www.allpropertymanagement.com/b ... te-values/

http://427mt.com/2019/09/06/real-estate ... -impacted/

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:00 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:50 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:29 pm https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environ ... s-n1113711

What’s weird is as media hacks promote ‘global warming’ ( say it in a very scary tone please!), guys like Gore, Soros, and Obama keep snapping up oceanfront property!!

I wonder who the mark is here

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesreal ... 4c842e6d4d

https://amp.businessinsider.com/why-not ... rts-2019-8

https://www.allpropertymanagement.com/b ... te-values/

http://427mt.com/2019/09/06/real-estate ... -impacted/

You may be playing checkers while they are playing chess. They likely know that (i) mother earth will reverse or balance the CC/GW concerns of over temperature or (ii) they just capitalized on one of the biggest scams of our lifetime by manipulating the market.

Sure, there is a worldwide scam.

That got you hook line and sinker, possibly even some of your money as well.

Hook, line and sinker...

https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releas ... le/605221/

The smart money.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:53 am The smart money.

We have formalized our flagging of ESG transactions for 2020.

Ocean Acidification.