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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:54 am
by MDlaxfan76
youthathletics wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:17 am Gov. Hogan live: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1dRJZQRpORVGB
First rate.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:55 am
by youthathletics
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:54 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:17 am Gov. Hogan live: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1dRJZQRpORVGB
First rate.
Hey, we agree. Nice!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:56 am
by RedFromMI
US Surgeon General Warns Coronavirus Outbreak ‘Going To Get Bad’ This Week
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/surg ... -this-week
“I want America to understand this week, it’s going to get bad,” he told NBC News’ “Today Show” host Savannah Guthrie. “And we really need to come together as a nation.”

Adams said that “there are not enough people out there who are taking this seriously” and urged Americans to stay home.

“Everyone needs to act as if they have the virus right now,” he said. “So test or no test, we need you to understand you could be spreading it to someone else, or you could be getting it from someone else.”
Article at TPM has a video of him saying this...

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:01 pm
by Farfromgeneva

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:01 pm
by MDlaxfan76
youthathletics wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:55 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:54 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:17 am Gov. Hogan live: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1dRJZQRpORVGB
First rate.
Hey, we agree. Nice!
You and I agree on most stuff youth. :)

It's just that discussions on these boards tend to focus on where folks disagree.

On Hogan, I have no trouble in the slightest saying that I not only have supported and voted for him (I am an R after all), I worked for his campaign a bit..
Night and day caliber of people he brought into his commerce dept. Prior crew were a joke.

Not that they get everything right, but way more competent.

He's handling this crisis exactly as a sober, modest, empathetic, competent leader should.
Will everything he does be perfect? of course not.
But there's no doubt that he has his head screwed on straight.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:05 pm
by jhu72
Can't do that, its French in origin. Do you know what those people eat?? Frogs! :lol:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:12 pm
by Farfromgeneva
I like Blue Cheese.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:27 pm
by jhu72
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:12 pm I like Blue Cheese.
Me to. Hold the frogs!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:29 pm
by Trinity
We’re the worst at this.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:30 pm
by Peter Brown
Nancy is getting roasted even by the media for holding up this package; even Schumer isn't digging her sop to lefty interest groups. Her 1100 page proposal (how did that happen so fast? :lol: ) includes 'provisions for election audits'. How is that Corona related again?

Normally I chuckle at the left because ultimately they are harmless. generally I don't think they are harmful to America, no matter how hard they try. But they are interfering right now with people's ability to eat and live.

You may want to have a word with your local D congressmen or women...

The outcome might be no bill, and the Fed simply becomes your policy makers. And Trump will only benefit from that outcome.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:35 pm
by Peter Brown
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:18 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:10 am Why was testing delayed in the United States, versus say South Korea?

This is an incredibly interesting article on how the FDA bungled things as only bureaucracies can. The US and SoKo got their first detected cases on the same date, 1-21. Our FDA inserted itself into the process by demanding an 'Emergency Use Authorization" (EAU) letter from the FDA for any lab that wished to test for Covid-19. Labs that had begun to test instead had to shut down, waiting for the letter; the United States has 260,000 laboratory entities.

Between 1-21 and 2-29, only one EAU letter was issued, to the CDC lab. Everything was pinned on one lab, whose protocol proceeded to fail. Of course. On March 16, finally, the FDA sped up the process by removing itself from the process, by providing an EAU exemption to any lab that sought it, essentially giving power of this process to the states.

Guess who ordered that ruling? Libs here won't be happy, but it rhymes with drump.

Speed not perfection in a pandemic.

Bureaucracies exist to deny you your rights. Never forget that.

https://thedispatch.com/p/timeline-the- ... latorsthat
Are you actually serious PB?
Of course bureaucracies slow stuff down.
and this was an epic fail for sure.
But of leadership not just bureaucracy.

Do you imagine that SK doesn't have bureaucracy?

March 15?!
why don't you ask the question as to why Trump didn't order it opened up sooner?
did he ask about it?

when was the last time he said the virus wasn't a serious issue or even worse, that "we just have 15 cases and it's soon going to zero"?


I thought it was you who always tell us that Trump is a "moron". How would a moron know what an 'Emergency Use Authorization" (EAU) is?

In some regards, I think you are correct, but you're missing the why; Trump isn't a details guy...at all. :lol: I bet Trump didn't even know what the FDA was prior to 6 weeks ago. My guess is he said to Azar, 'handle it'. And Azar probably didn't have a clue how to get a bureaucracy to move. When that became apparent, Trump stepped in.

But you don't get to call Trump a moron and blame him for the inner trappings of the FDA. Pick one or the other.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:37 pm
by Trinity
Appoint John Kasich Special Master of the Bailout fund and it passes. I find him boring and Pollyannaish but I trust him distribute these funds in the country’s best interest. A lot of the distrust comes because the Trump Team did not divest and generally full of shirts.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:41 pm
by jhu72
Trinity wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:29 pm We’re the worst at this.
Graph would be more meaningful comparison if done per capita. Notice China is not shown.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:42 pm
by Trinity
Yes, but our line goes straight up.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:44 pm
by CU77
What the Ds are actually doing is trying to prevent stuff like this:
The National Mining Association wants President Donald Trump to use his authority to “suspend or reduce” royalties coal operators pay the federal government ... The association also asks for a cut in the fees industry pays to clean up old mines and to pay for miners with black lung disease.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... try-seeks/

In other words, more socialism for the rich.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:45 pm
by youthathletics
jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:41 pm
Trinity wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:29 pm We’re the worst at this.
Graph would be more meaningful comparison if done per capita. Notice China is not shown.
This was totally expected as the test kits become more available.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:46 pm
by CU77
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:35 pm But you don't get to call Trump a moron and blame him for the inner trappings of the FDA.
Of course we do. A true leader would have understood that the bureaucracy needed a kick in the pants, and not handed the job over to his hand-picked clueless talentless sycophant.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:48 pm
by Trinity
76 Miami emergency room doctors sign letter warning the public to socially distance & beware of skepticism re: coronavirus:

"One of the most insidious aspects of this epidemic is that it draws strength from people's skepticism and feelings of invulnerability."

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:50 pm
by CU77
Speaking of skepticism, I wonder if PB still finds it "compelling" that there's no airborne transmission of the corona virus.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:51 pm
by jhu72
CU77 wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:44 pm What the Ds are actually doing is trying to prevent stuff like this:
The National Mining Association wants President Donald Trump to use his authority to “suspend or reduce” royalties coal operators pay the federal government ... The association also asks for a cut in the fees industry pays to clean up old mines and to pay for miners with black lung disease.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... try-seeks/

In other words, more socialism for the rich.
This will clearly do nothing for the economy, won't even increase sales of coal if only done for a short time. Just building a pipeline to the wallets of the owners. :roll: