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bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:50 am Just to note:
"Let those who refuse vaccines and booster shot etc take their chances."
is bearfan, not I. Not saying I agree or disagree, it's just not my comment.
Now back to our regular programming...

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:58 am

bearlaxfan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:50 am Just to note:
"Let those who refuse vaccines and booster shot etc take their chances."
is bearfan, not I. Not saying I agree or disagree, it's just not my comment.
Now back to our regular programming...

oops, sorry for the confusion; edited original.

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

livelovelax wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:26 am Doc,
So, we need everyone masked up at all times right? You mean the N95 masks that no one wears that have been shown to work or the cloth ones that everyone wears and many studies show that do very little to prevent covid? Are you asking 18-22 year old athletes to do this even though they have a 99.9999% percent chance of survival? Insanity. When do you see this ending or are you in that camp where this never ends?

I mean, I am pro vax but this is beyond over reach.

livelovelax wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:26 am Doc,
So, we need everyone masked up at all times right? You mean the N95 masks that no one wears that have been shown to work or the cloth ones that everyone wears and many studies show that do very little to prevent covid? Are you asking 18-22 year old athletes to do this even though they have a 99.9999% percent chance of survival? Insanity. When do you see this ending or are you in that camp where this never ends?

I mean, I am pro vax but this is beyond over reach.

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:20 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

We don’t need writing campaigns. We need tens of millions of Americans who haven’t received a single Covid-19 vaccination to get their first shot and at the same time we need tens of millions of Americans who have received two shots to get their third booster shot. And we need hundreds of millions of Americans wearing their masks at all times indoors when in public or socializing outside their immediate household.

That will save the Ivy League lacrosse season (and possibly everyone’s lacrosse season).

DocBarrister

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:10 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:20 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

We don’t need writing campaigns. We need tens of millions of Americans who haven’t received a single Covid-19 vaccination to get their first shot and at the same time we need tens of millions of Americans who have received two shots to get their third booster shot. And we need hundreds of millions of Americans wearing their masks at all times indoors when in public or socializing outside their immediate household.

That will save the Ivy League lacrosse season (and possibly everyone’s lacrosse season).

DocBarrister

I always appreciate your wisdom and insights. I am a huge pro-vax person who is triple vaxxed myself, as is our family. Sincere question from a civilian: If every player on every Ivy League lacrosse team is triple vaxxed and every one of those players contracts Covid, statistically, how many would be hospitalized and how many would die? I suppose that is 350 very healthy 19-22 year olds. My guess is that the answer would be zero and zero, but that the answer if they are all unvaxxed would be worse. Am I in the right zip code?

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:44 pm

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:10 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:20 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

We don’t need writing campaigns. We need tens of millions of Americans who haven’t received a single Covid-19 vaccination to get their first shot and at the same time we need tens of millions of Americans who have received two shots to get their third booster shot. And we need hundreds of millions of Americans wearing their masks at all times indoors when in public or socializing outside their immediate household.

That will save the Ivy League lacrosse season (and possibly everyone’s lacrosse season).

DocBarrister

I always appreciate your wisdom and insights. I am a huge pro-vax person who is triple vaxxed myself, as is our family. Sincere question from a civilian: If every player on every Ivy League lacrosse team is triple vaxxed and every one of those players contracts Covid, statistically, how many would be hospitalized and how many would die? I suppose that is 350 very healthy 19-22 year olds. My guess is that the answer would be zero and zero, but that the answer if they are all unvaxxed would be worse. Am I in the right zip code?

Well, it’s terrific to know you are triple vaxxed (as am I). Safe holidays to you and your family.

In response to your question, if all Ivy athletes are triple vaxxed and they all somehow become infected with SARS-CoV-2, probably less than 5% will experience any serious illness (fewer than 20 out of 350) and maybe one or two will expire. Depends on the variant, exposure, personal medical history, etc. Considering that such a cohort is far healthier than the average population, it could very well turn out to be zero and zero, as you say.

If they were all unvaccinated? That’s a much uglier picture. Thanks.

DocBarrister

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:44 pm

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:10 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:20 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

We don’t need writing campaigns. We need tens of millions of Americans who haven’t received a single Covid-19 vaccination to get their first shot and at the same time we need tens of millions of Americans who have received two shots to get their third booster shot. And we need hundreds of millions of Americans wearing their masks at all times indoors when in public or socializing outside their immediate household.

That will save the Ivy League lacrosse season (and possibly everyone’s lacrosse season).

DocBarrister

I always appreciate your wisdom and insights. I am a huge pro-vax person who is triple vaxxed myself, as is our family. Sincere question from a civilian: If every player on every Ivy League lacrosse team is triple vaxxed and every one of those players contracts Covid, statistically, how many would be hospitalized and how many would die? I suppose that is 350 very healthy 19-22 year olds. My guess is that the answer would be zero and zero, but that the answer if they are all unvaxxed would be worse. Am I in the right zip code?

Well, it’s terrific to know you are triple vaxxed (as am I). Safe holidays to you and your family.

In response to your question, if all Ivy athletes are triple vaxxed and they all somehow become infected with SARS-CoV-2, probably less than 5% will experience any serious illness (fewer than 20 out of 350) and maybe one or two will expire. Depends on the variant, exposure, personal medical history, etc. Considering that such a cohort is far healthier than the average population, it could very well turn out to be zero and zero, as you say.

If they were all unvaccinated? That’s a much uglier picture. Thanks.

DocBarrister

Laxbuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:13 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:44 pm

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:10 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:20 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

We don’t need writing campaigns. We need tens of millions of Americans who haven’t received a single Covid-19 vaccination to get their first shot and at the same time we need tens of millions of Americans who have received two shots to get their third booster shot. And we need hundreds of millions of Americans wearing their masks at all times indoors when in public or socializing outside their immediate household.

That will save the Ivy League lacrosse season (and possibly everyone’s lacrosse season).

DocBarrister

I always appreciate your wisdom and insights. I am a huge pro-vax person who is triple vaxxed myself, as is our family. Sincere question from a civilian: If every player on every Ivy League lacrosse team is triple vaxxed and every one of those players contracts Covid, statistically, how many would be hospitalized and how many would die? I suppose that is 350 very healthy 19-22 year olds. My guess is that the answer would be zero and zero, but that the answer if they are all unvaxxed would be worse. Am I in the right zip code?

Well, it’s terrific to know you are triple vaxxed (as am I). Safe holidays to you and your family.

In response to your question, if all Ivy athletes are triple vaxxed and they all somehow become infected with SARS-CoV-2, probably less than 5% will experience any serious illness (fewer than 20 out of 350) and maybe one or two will expire. Depends on the variant, exposure, personal medical history, etc. Considering that such a cohort is far healthier than the average population, it could very well turn out to be zero and zero, as you say.

If they were all unvaccinated? That’s a much uglier picture. Thanks.

DocBarrister

There are 70 division I teams with on average 50 per team
That’s 3500 D1 lacrosse players
A low estimate is that 1/3 have had Covid already
How many of that 1000 have been hospitalized or died?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:18 pm

Laxbuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:13 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:44 pm

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:10 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:20 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

We don’t need writing campaigns. We need tens of millions of Americans who haven’t received a single Covid-19 vaccination to get their first shot and at the same time we need tens of millions of Americans who have received two shots to get their third booster shot. And we need hundreds of millions of Americans wearing their masks at all times indoors when in public or socializing outside their immediate household.

That will save the Ivy League lacrosse season (and possibly everyone’s lacrosse season).

DocBarrister

I always appreciate your wisdom and insights. I am a huge pro-vax person who is triple vaxxed myself, as is our family. Sincere question from a civilian: If every player on every Ivy League lacrosse team is triple vaxxed and every one of those players contracts Covid, statistically, how many would be hospitalized and how many would die? I suppose that is 350 very healthy 19-22 year olds. My guess is that the answer would be zero and zero, but that the answer if they are all unvaxxed would be worse. Am I in the right zip code?

Well, it’s terrific to know you are triple vaxxed (as am I). Safe holidays to you and your family.

In response to your question, if all Ivy athletes are triple vaxxed and they all somehow become infected with SARS-CoV-2, probably less than 5% will experience any serious illness (fewer than 20 out of 350) and maybe one or two will expire. Depends on the variant, exposure, personal medical history, etc. Considering that such a cohort is far healthier than the average population, it could very well turn out to be zero and zero, as you say.

If they were all unvaccinated? That’s a much uglier picture. Thanks.

DocBarrister

There are 70 division I teams with on average 50 per team
That’s 3500 D1 lacrosse players
A low estimate is that 1/3 have had Covid already
How many of that 1000 have been hospitalized or died?

What is your rate of incidence based on? 1 out of 3 has had COVID-19 and that’s low. Wondering what is the basis of the estimate?

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:10 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:20 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

We don’t need writing campaigns. We need tens of millions of Americans who haven’t received a single Covid-19 vaccination to get their first shot and at the same time we need tens of millions of Americans who have received two shots to get their third booster shot. And we need hundreds of millions of Americans wearing their masks at all times indoors when in public or socializing outside their immediate household.

That will save the Ivy League lacrosse season (and possibly everyone’s lacrosse season).

DocBarrister

I always appreciate your wisdom and insights. I am a huge pro-vax person who is triple vaxxed myself, as is our family. Sincere question from a civilian: If every player on every Ivy League lacrosse team is triple vaxxed and every one of those players contracts Covid, statistically, how many would be hospitalized and how many would die? I suppose that is 350 very healthy 19-22 year olds. My guess is that the answer would be zero and zero, but that the answer if they are all unvaxxed would be worse. Am I in the right zip code?

Laxbuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:53 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:18 pm

Laxbuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:13 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:44 pm

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:10 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:20 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:08 am This is getting real ugly, real quick. Gotta believe the Vegas line on a full Ivy season is now below 50%. If you care about Ivy lacrosse, write your school presidents and ADs a note ASAP.

Yale moves to orange alert level, sees highest single-day COVID case count
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/12/ ... ase-count/
"Yale’s description of the orange alert level also states that instructional or non-instructional gatherings of any size are prohibited until transmission rates decrease, and that students in off-campus housing are restricted from campus, while students living on campus are restricted to campus. In the absence of a formal announcement from Yale, it is not yet clear if all of these restrictions will be put in place."

We don’t need writing campaigns. We need tens of millions of Americans who haven’t received a single Covid-19 vaccination to get their first shot and at the same time we need tens of millions of Americans who have received two shots to get their third booster shot. And we need hundreds of millions of Americans wearing their masks at all times indoors when in public or socializing outside their immediate household.

That will save the Ivy League lacrosse season (and possibly everyone’s lacrosse season).

DocBarrister

I always appreciate your wisdom and insights. I am a huge pro-vax person who is triple vaxxed myself, as is our family. Sincere question from a civilian: If every player on every Ivy League lacrosse team is triple vaxxed and every one of those players contracts Covid, statistically, how many would be hospitalized and how many would die? I suppose that is 350 very healthy 19-22 year olds. My guess is that the answer would be zero and zero, but that the answer if they are all unvaxxed would be worse. Am I in the right zip code?

Well, it’s terrific to know you are triple vaxxed (as am I). Safe holidays to you and your family.

In response to your question, if all Ivy athletes are triple vaxxed and they all somehow become infected with SARS-CoV-2, probably less than 5% will experience any serious illness (fewer than 20 out of 350) and maybe one or two will expire. Depends on the variant, exposure, personal medical history, etc. Considering that such a cohort is far healthier than the average population, it could very well turn out to be zero and zero, as you say.

If they were all unvaccinated? That’s a much uglier picture. Thanks.

DocBarrister

There are 70 division I teams with on average 50 per team
That’s 3500 D1 lacrosse players
A low estimate is that 1/3 have had Covid already
How many of that 1000 have been hospitalized or died?

What is your rate of incidence based on? 1 out of 3 has had COVID-19 and that’s low. Wondering what is the basis of the estimate?

It’s a very very low estimate just to make the point that more college lacrosse players have had Covid already than the total number who play in the Ivy League, and none have died. So to presume if all 350 of the IL lacrosse players were unvaccinated that 1-2 would die is based on zero empiric evidence.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:46 pm

livelovelax wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:26 am Doc,
So, we need everyone masked up at all times right? You mean the N95 masks that no one wears that have been shown to work or the cloth ones that everyone wears and many studies show that do very little to prevent covid? Are you asking 18-22 year old athletes to do this even though they have a 99.9999% percent chance of survival? Insanity. When do you see this ending or are you in that camp where this never ends?

I mean, I am pro vax but this is beyond over reach.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/ ... id-19.html

The virus doesn’t care that we are fatigued….actually, if conscious, the virus would be happy that we are fatigued.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:46 pm

livelovelax wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:26 am Doc,
So, we need everyone masked up at all times right? You mean the N95 masks that no one wears that have been shown to work or the cloth ones that everyone wears and many studies show that do very little to prevent covid? Are you asking 18-22 year old athletes to do this even though they have a 99.9999% percent chance of survival? Insanity. When do you see this ending or are you in that camp where this never ends?

I mean, I am pro vax but this is beyond over reach.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/ ... id-19.html

The virus doesn’t care that we are fatigued….actually, if conscious, the virus would be happy that we are fatigued.