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Love the enthusiasm for Washington and Jefferson on the board. That being said, it seems the gap between Grove City and them is pretty big. Saint Vincent and Chatham possibly look like they could have ground gained on them.

It will be interesting to see who schools hire (current assistants vs current head coaches) for some of these positions.

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:16 pm Plattsburgh is posted.

Is this just a campus/state thing or is Hauk leaving?

99.99% chance that it's the required state posting.

Hauk was hired last year after the fall semester started, and there was no posting/search at the time.

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:08 pm Love the enthusiasm for Washington and Jefferson on the board. That being said, it seems the gap between Grove City and them is pretty big. Saint Vincent and Chatham possibly look like they could have ground gained on them.

It will be interesting to see who schools hire (current assistants vs current head coaches) for some of these positions.

Poillon to W&J??

River Donkey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:48 am

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:08 pm Love the enthusiasm for Washington and Jefferson on the board. That being said, it seems the gap between Grove City and them is pretty big. Saint Vincent and Chatham possibly look like they could have ground gained on them.

It will be interesting to see who schools hire (current assistants vs current head coaches) for some of these positions.

Poillon to W&J??

Yeah people love cutting their salary in half for jobs they’re over qualified for.

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:55 am

River Donkey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:48 am

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:08 pm Love the enthusiasm for Washington and Jefferson on the board. That being said, it seems the gap between Grove City and them is pretty big. Saint Vincent and Chatham possibly look like they could have ground gained on them.

It will be interesting to see who schools hire (current assistants vs current head coaches) for some of these positions.

Poillon to W&J??

Yeah people love cutting their salary in half for jobs they’re over qualified for.

How much do you think D1 assistants make??

Marquette’s first assistant is around $90k+

Lerg to lead Beloit

https://beloitcollegeathletics.com/news ... ogram.aspx

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:22 pm Marquette’s first assistant is around $90k+

No it’s not. Would be nice if it was.

River Donkey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:51 pm

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:22 pm Marquette’s first assistant is around $90k+

No it’s not. Would be nice if it was.

Agreed.

90k is ACC/B1G money/salary

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:04 pm

River Donkey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:51 pm

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:22 pm Marquette’s first assistant is around $90k+

No it’s not. Would be nice if it was.

Agreed.

90k is ACC/B1G money/salary

There are a decent handful of programs that pay their coaches quite well outside of ACC/B1G. It obviously depends on the guy, some would surprise you. The range for assistants in D1 is about $25k-$150k. Head coaches $50k-$750k

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:09 am

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:04 pm

River Donkey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:51 pm

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:22 pm Marquette’s first assistant is around $90k+

No it’s not. Would be nice if it was.

Agreed.

90k is ACC/B1G money/salary

There are a decent handful of programs that pay their coaches quite well outside of ACC/B1G. It obviously depends on the guy, some would surprise you. The range for assistants in D1 is about $25k-$150k. Head coaches $50k-$750k

This is the definition of “fake news” and “don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”
Please provide one example of an assistant making anywhere near 150k?

River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:57 am

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:09 am

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:04 pm

River Donkey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:51 pm

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:22 pm Marquette’s first assistant is around $90k+

No it’s not. Would be nice if it was.

Agreed.

90k is ACC/B1G money/salary

There are a decent handful of programs that pay their coaches quite well outside of ACC/B1G. It obviously depends on the guy, some would surprise you. The range for assistants in D1 is about $25k-$150k. Head coaches $50k-$750k

This is the definition of “fake news” and “don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”
Please provide one example of an assistant making anywhere near 150k?

When Petro is announced for SU he will be in that range. Brown at DU is in that range, Byrne when he was at ND was in that range.

River Donkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:57 am

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:09 am

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:04 pm

River Donkey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:51 pm

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:22 pm Marquette’s first assistant is around $90k+

No it’s not. Would be nice if it was.

Agreed.

90k is ACC/B1G money/salary

There are a decent handful of programs that pay their coaches quite well outside of ACC/B1G. It obviously depends on the guy, some would surprise you. The range for assistants in D1 is about $25k-$150k. Head coaches $50k-$750k

This is the definition of “fake news” and “don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”
Please provide one example of an assistant making anywhere near 150k?

I concur

Would love to hear of where a D1 assistant mens lacrosse coach makes 150k. Even with camps I havent heard of such a thing

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:14 am
When Petro is announced for SU he will be in that range. Brown at DU is in that range, Byrne when he was at ND was in that range.

Insider Roll must have some insider information, especially since 2 out of those 3 names mentioned are not assistant coaches currently and one of those was pre pandemic.

Possible Brown may be the exception and not the rule (associate HC and coach in waiting) but still seems like a lot.

750k for a head coach as well?

I've been wrong before but damn that's a ton of paper

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:37 am [quote=InsiderRoll post_id=270269 time=<a href="tel:1623507281">1623507281</a> user_id=3378]

When Petro is announced for SU he will be in that range. Brown at DU is in that range, Byrne when he was at ND was in that range.

Insider Roll must have some insider information, especially since 2 out of those 3 names mentioned are not assistant coaches currently and one of those was pre pandemic.

Possible Brown may be the exception and not the rule (associate HC and coach in waiting) but still seems like a lot.

750k for a head coach as well?

I've been wrong before but damn that's a ton of paper
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750 is only 1 man. Gary Gait was making that as the women’s head coach. It’s possible title ix bumped him down but I’m sure he didn’t take much of a cut. Most “top tier” D1 guys at are between $200k-$300k, handful of guys above that.

I had heard $750k for gait recently as the wlax coach, here’s a 2015 article citing his $700k salary.

https://www.syracuse.com/opinion/2015/0 ... tters.html

Obviously these contracts are complicated and different for everyone. We are talking total compensation after bonus, incentives, and stipends. Most ACC/B1G assistants have things like car stipends, etc that can reach over $10k/year. Schools can get creative to be competitive.

I would probably agree with insiderroll, though I think it’s a rare exception that approaches those upper limits in salary. For every assistant above $100k, there’s probably ten below.

Since this is a D3 page, what do you all think is the range for d3 head coaches? At a lot of these schools, coaches are on faculty contracts with great pay/benefits. Others they’re just staff, and its completely different.

WhiteCarrera wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:49 am Since this is a D3 page, what do you all think is the range for d3 head coaches? At a lot of these schools, coaches are on faculty contracts with great pay/benefits. Others they’re just staff, and its completely different.

20k-120k. I think some coaches have "dual" duties to go along with coaching (administration or teaching).

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:59 am

WhiteCarrera wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:49 am Since this is a D3 page, what do you all think is the range for d3 head coaches? At a lot of these schools, coaches are on faculty contracts with great pay/benefits. Others they’re just staff, and its completely different.

20k-120k. I think some coaches have "dual" duties to go along with coaching (administration or teaching).

I agree with SLG, right on point with his numbers.

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:49 am

SouthernLaxGenius wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:37 am

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:49 am
When Petro is announced for SU he will be in that range. Brown at DU is in that range, Byrne when he was at ND was in that range.

Insider Roll must have some insider information, especially since 2 out of those 3 names mentioned are not assistant coaches currently and one of those was pre pandemic.

Possible Brown may be the exception and not the rule (associate HC and coach in waiting) but still seems like a lot.

750k for a head coach as well?

I've been wrong before but damn that's a ton of paper

750 is only 1 man. Gary Gait was making that as the women’s head coach. It’s possible title ix bumped him down but I’m sure he didn’t take much of a cut. Most “top tier” D1 guys at are between $200k-$300k, handful of guys above that.

I had heard $750k for gait recently as the wlax coach, here’s a 2015 article citing his $700k salary.

https://www.syracuse.com/opinion/2015/0 ... tters.html

Obviously these contracts are complicated and different for everyone. We are talking total compensation after bonus, incentives, and stipends. Most ACC/B1G assistants have things like car stipends, etc that can reach over $10k/year. Schools can get creative to be competitive.

we're going on more than a decade now of that 700+ being cited. that was his year 1 total comp to bring him in. here is a listing of the top 20 @ su from federal 990 form for that same exact year, 2015:
https://www.syracuse.com/su-news/2017/0 ... oyees.html
obviously, he's not on it.

Bowdoin
Carroll (WI)
Cazenovia
Concordia Chicago
Denison
Drew
Gettysburg
Guilford
Heidelberg
Keystone
Manhattanville
McDaniel
Medaille
Messiah
Plattsburgh
W&J
William Peace
Wilmington (OH)