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Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:04 pm
by ToastDunk
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am ...the earth will neutralize problems as they occur...
Quite right, the problems will be resolved. The difference? We won't be living on it as a result.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:05 pm
by Bart
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:14 am
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:51 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:05 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:40 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:27 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:20 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:12 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:09 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:54 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:39 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:34 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:11 pm
TLD you need an extra lump of butter in your warm milk. Your more correct than you know when you say the earth has a mind of its own. Do you really think human beings can fix whatever you think is wrong with the planet? Do we need to stop eating cheeseburgers? Do we need to ban the internal combustion engine? Do we need to start driving nothing but electric cars( what about them batteries)? Do we need to stop all of those cow farts in our nations dairy cows? When you can tell me in a detailed, rational plan as to how you think we can save the planet... I'm all ears pilgrim. When you think you have a game plan that mother earth will sign off on please let me know. The present situation is nothing more than a bunch of freaks trying to dictate to us what their remedy is to save the planet.

Is it a coincidence that their solutions dovetail very nicely with their own personal agenda? We can't forget that the UN solution is to extort money from the wealthy nations to redistribute to poorer nations. Yet again, it involves nothing more than certain people using their cause to make a chitload full of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I believe you are gullible and naïve enough to swallow the BS hook, line and sinker. I always make this offer to you folks. My friends play poker once a month. We are always looking for "fresh meat" that we can take their pocket change from. You have a standing invite TLD. Break open your piggy bank and count those quarters. You familiar with seven card stud?
The first part of any solution is the recognition there is a problem.

You are right, the system will come into stasis at some point, every system does. If/how/where the current inhabitants fit into that stasis is to be seen. I am not an alarmist by any means, I do not subscribe to the end is near philosophy of some but after reading, looking at the data, going through the data with ecologists and modelers where I work I am pretty confident there is an issue. Are there solutions out there that will fit? Good question, I do not know but seems to me we might want to begin looking into it.
You must be a FLP! Too much common sense in your post. I am not worried about climate change and the impact on the planet. I am worried about the impact on the people. It's possible that a nice virus will held weed people out. If it's anything like smallpox, that would be enough to do the trick.
I would think the impact you are worried about is more likely due to the size of the population rather than the climate, just MHO. This is not to say what you are concerned about might happen, I would think migration of vector species to areas not previously inhabited, again just an opinion. I do work with a guy that models things just like this, it is truly really interesting stuff and way above my feeble understanding.
Maybe you all stumbled on to something with the virus/disease situation. The mere fact that open orders are strongly supported and currently still an issue, supports that 'vector species' nugget from Bart.
I'm assuming you meant open borders and not open orders...... The vector I'd be most worried about would be the mosquito and sorry there aint no amount of border security that is going to keep that vector out.
Yes, I agree. Migration by any and all is also known to carry disease.
Change in habitat forces people to migrate en masse. Guess what may force migration? And migration doesn’t = movement to a new country.
No argument....we all actually agree. Imagine that. :D
Saw a textbook, Bacterial Pathogenesis, on the kitchen table this morning.......
That is cool stuff. Always amazed at the bacterial world. Perhaps the next book on the table will be on the Corona virus?
I’ll ask about it.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:09 pm
by jhu72
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:


Most people have the same good values you have and don’t buy into what the global warming crowd is truly selling, which really is denying doers the opportunities to do. Global warming as a concept might have validity but likely not for the reasons the global warming crowd trots out. And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.

The global warming crowd has zero nuance and are thoroughly dishonest about their true intentions. They love them some Greta though....sheesh.

The bloviation brothers giving each other moral support. Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber. :roll:

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:21 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:05 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:14 am
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:51 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:05 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:40 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:27 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:20 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:12 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:09 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:54 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:39 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:34 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:11 pm
TLD you need an extra lump of butter in your warm milk. Your more correct than you know when you say the earth has a mind of its own. Do you really think human beings can fix whatever you think is wrong with the planet? Do we need to stop eating cheeseburgers? Do we need to ban the internal combustion engine? Do we need to start driving nothing but electric cars( what about them batteries)? Do we need to stop all of those cow farts in our nations dairy cows? When you can tell me in a detailed, rational plan as to how you think we can save the planet... I'm all ears pilgrim. When you think you have a game plan that mother earth will sign off on please let me know. The present situation is nothing more than a bunch of freaks trying to dictate to us what their remedy is to save the planet.

Is it a coincidence that their solutions dovetail very nicely with their own personal agenda? We can't forget that the UN solution is to extort money from the wealthy nations to redistribute to poorer nations. Yet again, it involves nothing more than certain people using their cause to make a chitload full of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I believe you are gullible and naïve enough to swallow the BS hook, line and sinker. I always make this offer to you folks. My friends play poker once a month. We are always looking for "fresh meat" that we can take their pocket change from. You have a standing invite TLD. Break open your piggy bank and count those quarters. You familiar with seven card stud?
The first part of any solution is the recognition there is a problem.

You are right, the system will come into stasis at some point, every system does. If/how/where the current inhabitants fit into that stasis is to be seen. I am not an alarmist by any means, I do not subscribe to the end is near philosophy of some but after reading, looking at the data, going through the data with ecologists and modelers where I work I am pretty confident there is an issue. Are there solutions out there that will fit? Good question, I do not know but seems to me we might want to begin looking into it.
You must be a FLP! Too much common sense in your post. I am not worried about climate change and the impact on the planet. I am worried about the impact on the people. It's possible that a nice virus will held weed people out. If it's anything like smallpox, that would be enough to do the trick.
I would think the impact you are worried about is more likely due to the size of the population rather than the climate, just MHO. This is not to say what you are concerned about might happen, I would think migration of vector species to areas not previously inhabited, again just an opinion. I do work with a guy that models things just like this, it is truly really interesting stuff and way above my feeble understanding.
Maybe you all stumbled on to something with the virus/disease situation. The mere fact that open orders are strongly supported and currently still an issue, supports that 'vector species' nugget from Bart.
I'm assuming you meant open borders and not open orders...... The vector I'd be most worried about would be the mosquito and sorry there aint no amount of border security that is going to keep that vector out.
Yes, I agree. Migration by any and all is also known to carry disease.
Change in habitat forces people to migrate en masse. Guess what may force migration? And migration doesn’t = movement to a new country.
No argument....we all actually agree. Imagine that. :D
Saw a textbook, Bacterial Pathogenesis, on the kitchen table this morning.......
That is cool stuff. Always amazed at the bacterial world. Perhaps the next book on the table will be on the Corona virus?
I’ll ask about it.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
Thanks. I know MERS. I am going to ask my wife if she covers it. She teaches infectious disease courses among other things. A molecular biologist. I am a wannabe scientist. Sitting around in grad school with a bunch of PhD candidates in the sciences, rubbed off on me. A good friend of hers was a female PhD candidate in Physics. Not a lot of women in that field. Another friend is a nun that was also a PhD candidate. I met lot of interesting people from all over the world.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:32 pm
by Bart
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:

And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.
How does the earth neutralize problems?

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:36 pm
by Bart
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:21 pm
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:05 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:14 am
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:51 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:05 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:40 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:27 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:20 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:12 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:09 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:54 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:39 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:34 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:11 pm
TLD you need an extra lump of butter in your warm milk. Your more correct than you know when you say the earth has a mind of its own. Do you really think human beings can fix whatever you think is wrong with the planet? Do we need to stop eating cheeseburgers? Do we need to ban the internal combustion engine? Do we need to start driving nothing but electric cars( what about them batteries)? Do we need to stop all of those cow farts in our nations dairy cows? When you can tell me in a detailed, rational plan as to how you think we can save the planet... I'm all ears pilgrim. When you think you have a game plan that mother earth will sign off on please let me know. The present situation is nothing more than a bunch of freaks trying to dictate to us what their remedy is to save the planet.

Is it a coincidence that their solutions dovetail very nicely with their own personal agenda? We can't forget that the UN solution is to extort money from the wealthy nations to redistribute to poorer nations. Yet again, it involves nothing more than certain people using their cause to make a chitload full of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I believe you are gullible and naïve enough to swallow the BS hook, line and sinker. I always make this offer to you folks. My friends play poker once a month. We are always looking for "fresh meat" that we can take their pocket change from. You have a standing invite TLD. Break open your piggy bank and count those quarters. You familiar with seven card stud?
The first part of any solution is the recognition there is a problem.

You are right, the system will come into stasis at some point, every system does. If/how/where the current inhabitants fit into that stasis is to be seen. I am not an alarmist by any means, I do not subscribe to the end is near philosophy of some but after reading, looking at the data, going through the data with ecologists and modelers where I work I am pretty confident there is an issue. Are there solutions out there that will fit? Good question, I do not know but seems to me we might want to begin looking into it.
You must be a FLP! Too much common sense in your post. I am not worried about climate change and the impact on the planet. I am worried about the impact on the people. It's possible that a nice virus will held weed people out. If it's anything like smallpox, that would be enough to do the trick.
I would think the impact you are worried about is more likely due to the size of the population rather than the climate, just MHO. This is not to say what you are concerned about might happen, I would think migration of vector species to areas not previously inhabited, again just an opinion. I do work with a guy that models things just like this, it is truly really interesting stuff and way above my feeble understanding.
Maybe you all stumbled on to something with the virus/disease situation. The mere fact that open orders are strongly supported and currently still an issue, supports that 'vector species' nugget from Bart.
I'm assuming you meant open borders and not open orders...... The vector I'd be most worried about would be the mosquito and sorry there aint no amount of border security that is going to keep that vector out.
Yes, I agree. Migration by any and all is also known to carry disease.
Change in habitat forces people to migrate en masse. Guess what may force migration? And migration doesn’t = movement to a new country.
No argument....we all actually agree. Imagine that. :D
Saw a textbook, Bacterial Pathogenesis, on the kitchen table this morning.......
That is cool stuff. Always amazed at the bacterial world. Perhaps the next book on the table will be on the Corona virus?
I’ll ask about it.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
Thanks. I know MERS. I am going to ask my wife if she covers it. She teaches infectious disease courses among other things. A molecular biologist. I am a wannabe scientist. Sitting around in grad school with a bunch of PhD candidates in the sciences, rubbed off on me. A good friend of hers was a female PhD candidate in Physics. Not a lot of women in that field. Another friend is a nun that was also a PhD candidate. I met lot of interesting people from all over the world.
Would have been really impressed if you knew a nun physicist PhD :D

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:48 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:21 pm
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:05 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:14 am
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:51 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:05 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:40 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:27 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:20 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:12 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:09 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:54 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:39 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:34 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:11 pm
TLD you need an extra lump of butter in your warm milk. Your more correct than you know when you say the earth has a mind of its own. Do you really think human beings can fix whatever you think is wrong with the planet? Do we need to stop eating cheeseburgers? Do we need to ban the internal combustion engine? Do we need to start driving nothing but electric cars( what about them batteries)? Do we need to stop all of those cow farts in our nations dairy cows? When you can tell me in a detailed, rational plan as to how you think we can save the planet... I'm all ears pilgrim. When you think you have a game plan that mother earth will sign off on please let me know. The present situation is nothing more than a bunch of freaks trying to dictate to us what their remedy is to save the planet.

Is it a coincidence that their solutions dovetail very nicely with their own personal agenda? We can't forget that the UN solution is to extort money from the wealthy nations to redistribute to poorer nations. Yet again, it involves nothing more than certain people using their cause to make a chitload full of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I believe you are gullible and naïve enough to swallow the BS hook, line and sinker. I always make this offer to you folks. My friends play poker once a month. We are always looking for "fresh meat" that we can take their pocket change from. You have a standing invite TLD. Break open your piggy bank and count those quarters. You familiar with seven card stud?
The first part of any solution is the recognition there is a problem.

You are right, the system will come into stasis at some point, every system does. If/how/where the current inhabitants fit into that stasis is to be seen. I am not an alarmist by any means, I do not subscribe to the end is near philosophy of some but after reading, looking at the data, going through the data with ecologists and modelers where I work I am pretty confident there is an issue. Are there solutions out there that will fit? Good question, I do not know but seems to me we might want to begin looking into it.
You must be a FLP! Too much common sense in your post. I am not worried about climate change and the impact on the planet. I am worried about the impact on the people. It's possible that a nice virus will held weed people out. If it's anything like smallpox, that would be enough to do the trick.
I would think the impact you are worried about is more likely due to the size of the population rather than the climate, just MHO. This is not to say what you are concerned about might happen, I would think migration of vector species to areas not previously inhabited, again just an opinion. I do work with a guy that models things just like this, it is truly really interesting stuff and way above my feeble understanding.
Maybe you all stumbled on to something with the virus/disease situation. The mere fact that open orders are strongly supported and currently still an issue, supports that 'vector species' nugget from Bart.
I'm assuming you meant open borders and not open orders...... The vector I'd be most worried about would be the mosquito and sorry there aint no amount of border security that is going to keep that vector out.
Yes, I agree. Migration by any and all is also known to carry disease.
Change in habitat forces people to migrate en masse. Guess what may force migration? And migration doesn’t = movement to a new country.
No argument....we all actually agree. Imagine that. :D
Saw a textbook, Bacterial Pathogenesis, on the kitchen table this morning.......
That is cool stuff. Always amazed at the bacterial world. Perhaps the next book on the table will be on the Corona virus?
I’ll ask about it.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
Thanks. I know MERS. I am going to ask my wife if she covers it. She teaches infectious disease courses among other things. A molecular biologist. I am a wannabe scientist. Sitting around in grad school with a bunch of PhD candidates in the sciences, rubbed off on me. A good friend of hers was a female PhD candidate in Physics. Not a lot of women in that field. Another friend is a nun that was also a PhD candidate. I met lot of interesting people from all over the world.
Would have been really impressed if you knew a nun physicist PhD :D
The woman that got her PhD in physics went to seminary and became an ordained minister.....close!

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:50 pm
by Typical Lax Dad


Very good friend of my wife. She really is an unbelievable person.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:03 pm
by Bart
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:50 pm

Very good friend of my wife. She really is an unbelievable person.
that was interesting. thanks for that

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:27 pm
by cradleandshoot
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:09 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:


Most people have the same good values you have and don’t buy into what the global warming crowd is truly selling, which really is denying doers the opportunities to do. Global warming as a concept might have validity but likely not for the reasons the global warming crowd trots out. And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.

The global warming crowd has zero nuance and are thoroughly dishonest about their true intentions. They love them some Greta though....sheesh.

The bloviation brothers giving each other moral support. Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber. :roll:
When was the last time you had to pick up trash some one threw in front of your multi million dollar estate? You are sadly so jealous that you will never be enough of a scientist to lick Roy Spencers left nut. What is the color of your mansion 72? I am guessing a very envious shade of green. Don't feel bad 72, being a low level, substandard grade scientist ain't half bad. Maybe even the folks at PBS will give you some much needed publicity... :lol: :!: :!: BTW, did you read Roy Spencers blog today? You know, like the one you will never have.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:41 pm
by cradleandshoot
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:

And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.
How does the earth neutralize problems?
Have you ever heard of earth quakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, hurricanes, snow storms, rainstorms, floods? If our planet really becomes pissed off at us humans it won't be because of plastic water bottles. I get back to my basic premise. There are many folks out there in environmental whacko world who think we have the power to make the earth do what we want it to do. You folks can no more effect our climate than you can prevent the next earth quake. The confusion you all have about being good stewards of our planet and thinking you can change what the planet will do. Good luck with that. I am more involved in being a good caretaker of my planet than I am in thinking I can change what our planet will do.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:57 pm
by MDlaxfan76
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:
I do.
We have about 200 yards of frontage. My sister another 100 yards. Country roads. We 'police' our side of the street and the other side as well, constantly picking up trash thrown out a window or falling out the back of a truck or purposely dumped. Everything from tires to a huge pile of roofing material. For the big stuff, the county will come to get it, but only if we move it to the edge of the road for them...of course, the dumpers put it in deeper thinking it won't be noticed? The trash is generally the stuff of addiction, soda and alcohol bottles and cans, fast food packaging, cigarette wrappers...seems to be a high correlation. Don't see a lot of healthy alternatives getting tossed!

We also have an annual spring clean-up that we help organize for the area, cleaning up a couple of miles of country roadside.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:23 pm
by Peter Brown
ToastDunk wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:04 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am ...the earth will neutralize problems as they occur...
Quite right, the problems will be resolved. The difference? We won't be living on it as a result.


No hyperbole there. 🙄

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:28 pm
by ToastDunk
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:23 pm
ToastDunk wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:04 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am ...the earth will neutralize problems as they occur...
Quite right, the problems will be resolved. The difference? We won't be living on it as a result.


No hyperbole there. 🙄
None.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:46 pm
by Peter Brown
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:27 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:09 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:


Most people have the same good values you have and don’t buy into what the global warming crowd is truly selling, which really is denying doers the opportunities to do. Global warming as a concept might have validity but likely not for the reasons the global warming crowd trots out. And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.

The global warming crowd has zero nuance and are thoroughly dishonest about their true intentions. They love them some Greta though....sheesh.

The bloviation brothers giving each other moral support. Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber. :roll:
When was the last time you had to pick up trash some one threw in front of your multi million dollar estate? You are sadly so jealous that you will never be enough of a scientist to lick Roy Spencers left nut. What is the color of your mansion 72? I am guessing a very envious shade of green. Don't feel bad 72, being a low level, substandard grade scientist ain't half bad. Maybe even the folks at PBS will give you some much needed publicity... :lol: :!: :!: BTW, did you read Roy Spencers blog today? You know, like the one you will never have.


I don’t know JHU72, but I gather from your post he’s both a scientist and a leftist.

Outside of chasing government grants, I’d find it amusingly incongruous for anyone whose life work (a scientist for example) revolved around data and facts to be a leftist. Most of humanity’s greatest injustices have been dealt by collectivists’ hands. The empirical data demonstrably showing the political system that inevitably must turn to smashing the citizens freedom is leftism. A truly great scientist, James Watson, was a fact-driven man who had zero tolerance for leftism. He’d mock any scientist who embraced leftist policies.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:31 pm
by Bart
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:41 pm
Bart wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:

And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.
How does the earth neutralize problems?
Have you ever heard of earth quakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, hurricanes, snow storms, rainstorms, floods? If our planet really becomes ticked off at us humans it won't be because of plastic water bottles. I get back to my basic premise. There are many folks out there in environmental whacko world who think we have the power to make the earth do what we want it to do. You folks can no more effect our climate than you can prevent the next earth quake. The confusion you all have about being good stewards of our planet and thinking you can change what the planet will do. Good luck with that. I am more involved in being a good caretaker of my planet than I am in thinking I can change what our planet will do.
no, I have never heard of such things. please explain to me with what exactly they are. so now the earth has the ability to get ticked off? that is good to know.

just remember to bring your reusable bags to wegmans, that enviromental wacko danny will no longer be supplying you with plastic ones in the future.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:00 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:46 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:27 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:09 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:


Most people have the same good values you have and don’t buy into what the global warming crowd is truly selling, which really is denying doers the opportunities to do. Global warming as a concept might have validity but likely not for the reasons the global warming crowd trots out. And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.

The global warming crowd has zero nuance and are thoroughly dishonest about their true intentions. They love them some Greta though....sheesh.

The bloviation brothers giving each other moral support. Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber. :roll:
When was the last time you had to pick up trash some one threw in front of your multi million dollar estate? You are sadly so jealous that you will never be enough of a scientist to lick Roy Spencers left nut. What is the color of your mansion 72? I am guessing a very envious shade of green. Don't feel bad 72, being a low level, substandard grade scientist ain't half bad. Maybe even the folks at PBS will give you some much needed publicity... :lol: :!: :!: BTW, did you read Roy Spencers blog today? You know, like the one you will never have.


I don’t know JHU72, but I gather from your post he’s both a scientist and a leftist.

Outside of chasing government grants, I’d find it amusingly incongruous for anyone whose life work (a scientist for example) revolved around data and facts to be a leftist. Most of humanity’s greatest injustices have been dealt by collectivists’ hands. The empirical data demonstrably showing the political system that inevitably must turn to smashing the citizens freedom is leftism. A truly great scientist, James Watson, was a fact-driven man who had zero tolerance for leftism. He’d mock any scientist who embraced leftist policies.
Someone needs to teach PB how to use google.
It would save him a lot of embarrassment and spare us of some of is ignorance.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:48 am
by Kismet
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019 ... ium=social

Excellent article on the effects of climate on history - The Little Ice Age - 1300 to about 1850

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:50 am
by Peter Brown
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:00 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:46 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:27 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:09 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:


Most people have the same good values you have and don’t buy into what the global warming crowd is truly selling, which really is denying doers the opportunities to do. Global warming as a concept might have validity but likely not for the reasons the global warming crowd trots out. And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.

The global warming crowd has zero nuance and are thoroughly dishonest about their true intentions. They love them some Greta though....sheesh.

The bloviation brothers giving each other moral support. Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber. :roll:
When was the last time you had to pick up trash some one threw in front of your multi million dollar estate? You are sadly so jealous that you will never be enough of a scientist to lick Roy Spencers left nut. What is the color of your mansion 72? I am guessing a very envious shade of green. Don't feel bad 72, being a low level, substandard grade scientist ain't half bad. Maybe even the folks at PBS will give you some much needed publicity... :lol: :!: :!: BTW, did you read Roy Spencers blog today? You know, like the one you will never have.


I don’t know JHU72, but I gather from your post he’s both a scientist and a leftist.

Outside of chasing government grants, I’d find it amusingly incongruous for anyone whose life work (a scientist for example) revolved around data and facts to be a leftist. Most of humanity’s greatest injustices have been dealt by collectivists’ hands. The empirical data demonstrably showing the political system that inevitably must turn to smashing the citizens freedom is leftism. A truly great scientist, James Watson, was a fact-driven man who had zero tolerance for leftism. He’d mock any scientist who embraced leftist policies.
Someone needs to teach PB how to use google.
It would save him a lot of embarrassment and spare us of some of is ignorance.


“us”. 😂

Definitely not a backscratchers convention here.

Re: Climate Change & The Environment

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:00 am
by MDlaxfan76
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:50 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:00 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:46 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:27 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:09 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:41 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:46 am One last post this morning.

I stood with two Aussie Falcon 7X pilots yesterday on a tarmac in so FlA. I told them I was sorry to hear of the fires in Oz. They told me that when they arrived here in the US, they were amazed to see how hyperbolic our newspapers and media are, that the fires were arson-caused and nowhere near the size our media portrays.

A researcher called John Galtung once remarked that if a newspaper came out once every 50 years (as opposed to every second in our digital world), it would not report celebrity gossip, fake news, and political scandals; it would report momentous positive global changes such as the increase in lief expectancy.

Good things unfold over time, but bad things happen quickly. My belief is that many folks here, in their mania to take out Trump, focus only on every second's worth of bad news and amplify it to be earth-shattering. Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but life has only gotten better for humanity, and that will always be the case.
Someone said climate change caused those fires to spontaneously combust?


Climate change (previously known as "global warming") seemingly has caused some person's brains to combust.
My opinion here PB that has been ridiculed and mocked by the dedicated members of the 72nd chicken little brigade has not and will never change. Our planet earth will do what it wants, when it wants, where it wants and how it wants. The chicken little brigade is unable to differentiate from what humans can control and what humans have no control over. When the chicken little brigade faithful can control things such as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes and all the other cataclysmic disasters our earth throws at us.. then I will be all ears. Until that time I will do what I have always done. When I take a long walk I will have the garbage bag in hand that I always have at the ready. My suggestion to the paranoid CLB members is to put on a fresh depends, grab a glass of warm milk with a glob of butter in it and don't worry about stuff you have no control over.

Oh I don’t listen Cradle. The global warming crew isn’t really about ‘saving’ anything. They’re about denying doers the opportunities they themselves will never seize. I’m more amused than anything.
Thanks for your reply PB. I don't live in a multi million dollar exclusive neighborhood like so many of my FLP environmental extremists that like to lecture me here as to how ignorant I am. This morning when my wife and I left to go to Wegmans some folks had thrown their garbage bags and fast food containers out onto the road. For the umpteenth time we policed up the trash and put it in our garbage tote. I may be a denier but I am more concerned about actually keeping my community clean. I wonder how many of these folks here who live in their multi million dollar homes have this problem of having to pick up trash thrown on the roads where they live. :roll:


Most people have the same good values you have and don’t buy into what the global warming crowd is truly selling, which really is denying doers the opportunities to do. Global warming as a concept might have validity but likely not for the reasons the global warming crowd trots out. And like everything else in life, the earth will neutralize problems as they occur so there is zero to to fret about.

The global warming crowd has zero nuance and are thoroughly dishonest about their true intentions. They love them some Greta though....sheesh.

The bloviation brothers giving each other moral support. Tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber. :roll:
When was the last time you had to pick up trash some one threw in front of your multi million dollar estate? You are sadly so jealous that you will never be enough of a scientist to lick Roy Spencers left nut. What is the color of your mansion 72? I am guessing a very envious shade of green. Don't feel bad 72, being a low level, substandard grade scientist ain't half bad. Maybe even the folks at PBS will give you some much needed publicity... :lol: :!: :!: BTW, did you read Roy Spencers blog today? You know, like the one you will never have.


I don’t know JHU72, but I gather from your post he’s both a scientist and a leftist.

Outside of chasing government grants, I’d find it amusingly incongruous for anyone whose life work (a scientist for example) revolved around data and facts to be a leftist. Most of humanity’s greatest injustices have been dealt by collectivists’ hands. The empirical data demonstrably showing the political system that inevitably must turn to smashing the citizens freedom is leftism. A truly great scientist, James Watson, was a fact-driven man who had zero tolerance for leftism. He’d mock any scientist who embraced leftist policies.
Someone needs to teach PB how to use google.
It would save him a lot of embarrassment and spare us of some of is ignorance.


“us”. 😂

Definitely not a backscratchers convention here.
It would save ALL of the readers of your posts some of your ignorance if just used google before responding instead of saying something directly ignorant that would have been instantaneously and obviously correctable had you done so, eg your response re Roy Spencer.

You are not stupid, just willfully choosing to be ignorant.

I don't know whether your mention of Watson was a purposeful troll to see who would bite, but let's hear what it is that you so admire about Watson relative to the many brilliant scientists in the field of genetics. (He did his very important work during the 1950's) Is it, perhaps, his racism or his sexism that bubbled out in his later life? BTW, none of which was "fact-driven". He wasn't the only geneticist of his day to hold such bigoted views, just one of the most prominent to still be spouting them.

Is that what makes him not a "leftist"?

Comments on race[edit]
At a conference in 2000, Watson suggested a link between skin color and sex drive, hypothesizing that dark-skinned people have stronger libidos.[66][92] His lecture argued that extracts of melanin – which gives skin its color – had been found to boost subjects' sex drive. "That's why you have Latin lovers," he said, according to people who attended the lecture. "You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English Patient."[93] He has also said that stereotypes associated with racial and ethnic groups have a genetic basis: Jews being intelligent, Chinese being intelligent but not creative because of selection for conformity.[94]

Watson has repeatedly asserted that differences in average measured IQ between blacks and whites are due to genetics.[95][96][97] In early October 2007, he was interviewed by Charlotte Hunt-Grubbe at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (CSHL). He discussed his view that Africans are less intelligent than Westerners.[98][99][100] Watson said his intention was to promote science, not racism, but some UK venues canceled his appearances,[101] and he canceled the rest of his tour.[102][103][104][105] An editorial in Nature said that his remarks were "beyond the pale," but wished that the tour had not been canceled so that Watson would have had to face his critics in person, encouraging scientific discussion on the matter.[106] Because of the controversy, the Board of Trustees at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory suspended Watson's administrative responsibilities.[107] Watson issued an apology,[108] then retired at the age of 79 from CSHL from what the lab called "nearly 40 years of distinguished service".[60][109] Watson attributed his retirement to his age, and circumstances that he could never have anticipated or desired.[110][111][112]

In 2008, Watson was appointed chancellor emeritus of CSHL.[113][114] In a BBC documentary that year, Watson said he did not see himself as a racist.[115] As of 2009, he continued to advise and guide project work at the laboratory.[116]

In January 2019, following the broadcast of a television documentary made the previous year in which he repeated his views about race and genetics, CSHL revoked honorary titles that it had awarded to Watson, and cut all remaining ties with him.[117][118][119] Watson did not respond to the developments, having been ill since a car accident in October 2018.[120]

Personal life[edit]
Watson is an atheist.[14][121] In 2003, he was one of 22 Nobel Laureates who signed the Humanist Manifesto.[122]