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Rand Paul is first senator to test positive for coronavirus

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics ... index.html


Kentucky Republican Rand Paul is the first US senator to test positive for coronavirus, throwing an even greater sense of urgency into Senate negotiations over a massive stimulus package that had yet to come together Sunday afternoon as other senators decided to self-quarantine.

A statement from Paul's office posted to his Twitter account Sunday said he was "feeling fine" and was "tested out of an abundance of caution." But some senators and aides are angry at Paul for not doing more to self-quarantine earlier and for potentially exposing senators to the coronavirus.




Did someone say, "hoax"?

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:02 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:07 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 am Fauci

Never, for example, has Fauci used “China virus” or " Chinese virus” to refer to covid-19, despite Trump’s repeated usage and defense of such labels. Critics have slammed the language as racist and diversionary, warning that it could lead to an uptick of anti-Asian sentiment in the United States.

“And you never will, will you?” Cohen asked.

“No,” Fauci answered.

DocBarrister

Covid-19 originated deep in China. In a CHINESE wet market specializing in the peculiar dietary habits of CHINESE. The CHINESE communists hid the epidemic while allowing CHINESE to celebrate the CHINESE NEW YEAR by spreading out in the largest human migration on the planet. Nah it has nothing to do with China.

I'm not certain it does any good to call it the Chinese Virus. I call it Covid-19.

After this event passes, the world should pressure China to get rid of these wet markets.

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 am Every question from an anti Trump bias. Every question insinuating some nefarious Trump behavior.

Trump is saying, to be kind, untruths. the interviewer speaks to this. As s/he should.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:37 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:12 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 am Fauci

Fauci
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143880158001#sp=show-clips

Cmon 6ft, Fauci is just a boot-licking sycophant!

Fauci et al. doing a great job, optimism in the treatment of CV19 via French testing outcome, although numbers are going up in positive cases those numbers are skewed b/c they are classified severe of mild (big difference only 795 severe cases in the US).

Have you looked at the death rate for the severe cases in this country? I don’t understand why it’s so high. I am hoping it trends down. That statistic is worrisome.

Have not seen a stat that breaks down death by severity...I'd assume if you die from it, you had a sever case.

3/22/2020 per capita numbers (past 24 hrs from roughly 7:30 3/21/20 pm to 7:30 pm 3/22/20)

Interesting information follows:

US Cases per Capita --> 10.1 per 100,000
US Deaths per Capita --> 1.3 per million (for the first time more than 1 per million)

States with highest per capita infection (per 100,000)
--> New York 81.2; 34.9% higher than yesterday's rate
--> Washington 26.2; 11.0% higher than yesterday's rate
--> New Jersey 21.6; 44.9% higher than yesterday's rate
--> Louisiana 18.0; 42.9% higher than yesterday's rate
--> District of Columbia 14.5; 33.0% higher that yesterday's rate
--> Michigan 10.4; 31.6% higher that yesterday's rate (joined the club yesterday, a half dozen more will join in the next two days)

Only 12 states have death rates of more than 1 per million (2 new since yesterday)
--> Washington 12.5 per million (growing more slowly)
--> New York 6.0 per million (doubled over night)
--> Louisiana 4.3 per million
--> Vermont 3.2 per million
--> District of Columbia 2.8 per million (doubled over night)
--> New Jersey 2.3 per million
--> Georgia 2.2 per million
--> Connecticut 1.4 per million
--> Oregon 1.2 per million
--> South Dakota 1.1 per million
--> Colorado 1.0 per million (new)
--> Nevada 1.0 per million (new)

US deaths in the last 24 hours is 36% greater than the deaths for the previous 24 hours
US new cases in the last 24 hours is 30% greater than the new cases in the previous 24 hours

Only 1 new state has joined the club, recording their first death in the past 24 hours
--> Utah

Notes:
-- Testing has clearly slowed down as new infections are growing more slowly than deaths (or we are nearing an end / anyone care to bet which?)
-- Death rates in New York and Washington DC doubled overnight
-- Death rate in Washington State and the infection rate growing more slowly, maybe reaching a plateau
-- Again note that the situation in Washington DC is worse than shown. Maryland and Virginia cases are concentrated in the DC suburbs. The Louisiana result is indicative of New Orleans and obviously the New York State result is representative of NYC, as is New Jersey and Connecticut.

Trump’s Using ‘Chinese Virus’ to Pull a Fast One on Dems

"Steve Bannon laid out the game plan: Get Democrats talking about race and identity, while Trump turns to economic nationalism."

[snip]

"What Bannon was describing was a one-two punch: You distract the enemy —the Democrats and the liberal media—with something the electorate doesn’t care about; and then you feed the electorate something they do care about. Get the left talking about racism, and then supply the electorate with a soaring economy.

It’s a move Trump has used again and again. But while some have caught on to the racism-as-distraction, fewer have copped to the crucial second part – what Bannon called “economic nationalism.” What he meant was the kind of America First protectionism that was the signature platform agenda of Trump’s first term, a new trade agreement with Canada and Mexico and a trade war with China that, ironically, resembled nothing so much as the lefty economic agenda that the Democrats had long abandoned. In his trade war with China, Trump took up actions that labor unions and other liberals have long demanded. And the newly renegotiated trade agreement with Mexico, the USMCA, is by all accounts the most pro-labor, environmentally friendly trade agreement the U.S. has ever entered into.

In other words, Bannon’s move that Trump has adopted wholesale wasn’t just to get the left in a (justifiable) rage over offensive tweets, but to do so while running to the left of them on economics, pulling the rug out from under the Democrats’ feet and allowing the president to scramble the left/right economic divide.

If, in that long ago time before 2016, Republicans stood for American exceptionalism, endless war, free market economics and an aversion to Russia, Trump stands for just the opposite, giving him a lot more in common with Bernie Sanders than with someone like Ted Cruz or Pat Toomey, at least on the economic front. Trump’s approach, beginning with a cut to corporate taxes, and buoying that with pro-worker bottom-up measures, was a kind of Americanized version of the Scandinavian democratic socialist model touted by Sanders (Sanders ironically voted against the new NAFTA—one of just 10 senators who did—because he said it didn’t go far enough environmentally)."

More politics of division...Trump is the master and his followers the doting dupes...

..

"gee, that's too bad"


https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ts-too-bad

Italian doctors after work.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:17 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:02 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:07 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 am Fauci

Never, for example, has Fauci used “China virus” or " Chinese virus” to refer to covid-19, despite Trump’s repeated usage and defense of such labels. Critics have slammed the language as racist and diversionary, warning that it could lead to an uptick of anti-Asian sentiment in the United States.

“And you never will, will you?” Cohen asked.

“No,” Fauci answered.

DocBarrister

Covid-19 originated deep in China. In a CHINESE wet market specializing in the peculiar dietary habits of CHINESE. The CHINESE communists hid the epidemic while allowing CHINESE to celebrate the CHINESE NEW YEAR by spreading out in the largest human migration on the planet. Nah it has nothing to do with China.

I'm not certain it does any good to call it the Chinese Virus. I call it Covid-19.

After this event passes, the world should pressure China to get rid of these wet markets.

Thanks, that's the right attitude on this one.

Good news: China already outlawed the wet markets. I think that was in February.
They're not coming back.

China has fired 2-3,000 bureaucrats in Hunan. Screwed up big time. Some heads rolling in national level as well.

Don't look for Xi to resign of course, as it doesn't work that way there, but they're very concerned about learning from this.

Once they came to grips with it, they then implemented really draconian measures to choke the virus off. It worked.

I asked my son, who had been saying in Jan and Feb not to believe the China #'s as they were likely undercounted, whether he believes the current news of way less new cases. He said yes. I asked why and he said that they are definitely dismantling the makeshift hospitals and allowing people to gather...he said everyone (the populace) is super anxious, very heightened concern, and that there's no way alarms wouldn't go off on social media if there was evidence the gov't #'s weren't telling it straight or if the hospitals weren't being dismantled...right now.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:20 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:37 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:12 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 am Fauci

Fauci
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143880158001#sp=show-clips

Cmon 6ft, Fauci is just a boot-licking sycophant!

Fauci et al. doing a great job, optimism in the treatment of CV19 via French testing outcome, although numbers are going up in positive cases those numbers are skewed b/c they are classified severe of mild (big difference only 795 severe cases in the US).

Have you looked at the death rate for the severe cases in this country? I don’t understand why it’s so high. I am hoping it trends down. That statistic is worrisome.

Have not seen a stat that breaks down death by severity...I'd assume if you die from it, you had a sever case.

The stats are there. You should take a look. It’s in the World meter data.

Note JHU COVID-19 site now has a tab that presents infections and deaths by county. New feature today.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:37 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:20 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:37 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:12 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 am Fauci

Fauci
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143880158001#sp=show-clips

Cmon 6ft, Fauci is just a boot-licking sycophant!

Fauci et al. doing a great job, optimism in the treatment of CV19 via French testing outcome, although numbers are going up in positive cases those numbers are skewed b/c they are classified severe of mild (big difference only 795 severe cases in the US).

Have you looked at the death rate for the severe cases in this country? I don’t understand why it’s so high. I am hoping it trends down. That statistic is worrisome.

Have not seen a stat that breaks down death by severity...I'd assume if you die from it, you had a sever case.

The stats are there. You should take a look. It’s in the World meter data.

I have been rooting through that site, but see nothing on death rate/severity. Their only page on this is dated back thru 02-FEB-2020. Can you direct me?

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:16 am Looks like we won't be seeing much of Rand Paul for a while -


Rand Paul is first senator to test positive for coronavirus

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics ... index.html


Kentucky Republican Rand Paul is the first US senator to test positive for coronavirus, throwing an even greater sense of urgency into Senate negotiations over a massive stimulus package that had yet to come together Sunday afternoon as other senators decided to self-quarantine.

A statement from Paul's office posted to his Twitter account Sunday said he was "feeling fine" and was "tested out of an abundance of caution." But some senators and aides are angry at Paul for not doing more to self-quarantine earlier and for potentially exposing senators to the coronavirus.




Did someone say, "hoax"?

Being excited that a Republican Senator has the virus, is despicable but par for the course for you. Shows Democrats true colors. They are hateful and vile people who root for the demise of this country’s economy because “Orange Man Bad”. Democrats and the media are giddy over the virus and what it’s doing to our economy. It’s sickening. But then again, is anyone surprised by their behavior? Nope!

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:20 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:37 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:12 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 am Fauci

Fauci
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143880158001#sp=show-clips

Cmon 6ft, Fauci is just a boot-licking sycophant!

Fauci et al. doing a great job, optimism in the treatment of CV19 via French testing outcome, although numbers are going up in positive cases those numbers are skewed b/c they are classified severe of mild (big difference only 795 severe cases in the US).

Have you looked at the death rate for the severe cases in this country? I don’t understand why it’s so high. I am hoping it trends down. That statistic is worrisome.

Have not seen a stat that breaks down death by severity...I'd assume if you die from it, you had a sever case.

I don't know what "severe case" means. I am assuming "hospitalized".

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:46 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:20 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:37 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:12 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 am Fauci

Fauci
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143880158001#sp=show-clips

Cmon 6ft, Fauci is just a boot-licking sycophant!

Fauci et al. doing a great job, optimism in the treatment of CV19 via French testing outcome, although numbers are going up in positive cases those numbers are skewed b/c they are classified severe of mild (big difference only 795 severe cases in the US).

Have you looked at the death rate for the severe cases in this country? I don’t understand why it’s so high. I am hoping it trends down. That statistic is worrisome.

Have not seen a stat that breaks down death by severity...I'd assume if you die from it, you had a sever case.

I don't know what "severe case" means. I am assuming "hospitalized".

Sorry...not severe but (Serious/Critical and Mild) according the landing page at the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ in the box "Active Cases"

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:50 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:46 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:20 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:37 am

tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:12 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 am Fauci

Fauci
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143880158001#sp=show-clips

Cmon 6ft, Fauci is just a boot-licking sycophant!

Fauci et al. doing a great job, optimism in the treatment of CV19 via French testing outcome, although numbers are going up in positive cases those numbers are skewed b/c they are classified severe of mild (big difference only 795 severe cases in the US).

Have you looked at the death rate for the severe cases in this country? I don’t understand why it’s so high. I am hoping it trends down. That statistic is worrisome.

Have not seen a stat that breaks down death by severity...I'd assume if you die from it, you had a sever case.

I don't know what "severe case" means. I am assuming "hospitalized".

Sorry...not severe but (Serious/Critical and Mild) according the landing page at the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ in the box "Active Cases"

Yes. I was assuming those cases would include some hospital stays but not sure if all hospital stays are serious. That closed case statistic is worrisome in the USA. Going to the hospital does not have good outcomes. Could be heavily skewed towards older population.

4 months into this pandemic—if you believe the Chinese—and there are a total of 351K known cases globally—in a population of 7 billion

How does Cuomos model indicate that 80% of us are going to get the virus?

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:02 am 4 months into this pandemic—if you believe the Chinese—and there are a total of 351K known cases globally—in a population of 7 billion

How does Cuomos model indicate that 80% of us are going to get the virus?

It’s not Cuomo’s model.

Bandito wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:43 am

Being excited that a Republican Senator has the virus, is despicable but par for the course for you. Shows Democrats true colors. They are hateful and vile people who root for the demise of this country’s economy because “Orange Man Bad”. Democrats and the media are giddy over the virus and what it’s doing to our economy. It’s sickening. But then again, is anyone surprised by their behavior? Nope!

Tell that to your hero Trump who said "gee, that's too bad":

viewtopic.php?p=126440#p126440

Why was testing delayed in the United States, versus say South Korea?

This is an incredibly interesting article on how the FDA bungled things as only bureaucracies can. The US and SoKo got their first detected cases on the same date, 1-21. Our FDA inserted itself into the process by demanding an 'Emergency Use Authorization" (EAU) letter from the FDA for any lab that wished to test for Covid-19. Labs that had begun to test instead had to shut down, waiting for the letter; the United States has 260,000 laboratory entities.

Between 1-21 and 2-29, only one EAU letter was issued, to the CDC lab. Everything was pinned on one lab, whose protocol proceeded to fail. Of course. On March 16, finally, the FDA sped up the process by removing itself from the process, by providing an EAU exemption to any lab that sought it, essentially giving power of this process to the states.

Guess who ordered that ruling? Libs here won't be happy, but it rhymes with drump.

Speed not perfection in a pandemic.

Bureaucracies exist to deny you your rights. Never forget that.

https://thedispatch.com/p/timeline-the- ... latorsthat