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You are not being honest. Felons who have served their time and paid their debt to society on a case by case basis should not necessarily be denied their 2nd amendment rights. What if they like MD lax enjoy hunting ducks?Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:37 pm Everybody should be happy now - DoJ just indicted Hunter Biden on the gun possession charge - should not be surprised as he already offered to plead guilty recently.
Justice Thomas says the law prohibiting felons from owning/possessing guns is unconstitutional.
In some states convicted felons can't vote, you okay with that?https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... -rcna39623Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:37 pm Everybody should be happy now - DoJ just indicted Hunter Biden on the gun possession charge - should not be surprised as he already offered to plead guilty recently.
Justice Thomas says the law prohibiting felons from owning/possessing guns is unconstitutional.
Nope; expect all of this to rally the troops.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:03 pm Does this indictment of his bouncing baby boy reflect negatively on Joe Bidens reelection campaign? The folks at the DNC have to be hoping beyond hope that Biden decides to not run so he can spend more time with his family.
What it says to me, if Hunter walks, is the the Party is not serious about gun crime. Tread lightly, or they risk losing voters confidence and trust.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pmNope; expect all of this to rally the troops.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:03 pm Does this indictment of his bouncing baby boy reflect negatively on Joe Bidens reelection campaign? The folks at the DNC have to be hoping beyond hope that Biden decides to not run so he can spend more time with his family.
At least to most people, it "proves" that the DOJ isn't shielding Hunter for political reasons.
Of course, the big problem is that Hunter may well get off entirely because of the prior SCOTUS decision that basically moots this violation. Judge could rule that enforcement is unconstitutional. Or a jury could be persuaded that it's not worth hardly any, if any, punishment.
It's not as if Hunter hasn't publicly admitted he lied on the form about doing drugs and that he got rid of the gun 11 days later in a reckless way. It's really not a violation that would normally even get charged...and maybe is now unconstitutional to convict on.
So, this could well backfire on MAGA.
It certainly is very likely the impeachment nonsense will backfire, all the more so if they actually take a vote without ever having produced any actual evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors by Joe.
Of course, if after 5 years of investigating they finally find some big flow of money into Joe's bank account that can be traced to Hunter's "influence peddling" another matter altogether...but they've never connected the dots remotely close to what rational people would think is actually a "high crime and misdemeanor" or in any way criminal act by Joe. I think that's because there's no there there.
I do think we'll see another indictment of Hunter on the tax charges...probably within the next 3 weeks.
Hunter may do some time at some point on one or more of these things, but he may well get off scot free. Either way, it backfires on MAGA.
Personally, I'd prefer to see Joe declare victory in an historic one term and call for a competitive election among the next generation. Say that you're going to focus on the major issues facing the US and the world with all your energy and not be distracted by campaigning...
youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:56 pmWhat it says to me, if Hunter walks, is the the Party is not serious about gun crime.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pmNope; expect all of this to rally the troops.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:03 pm Does this indictment of his bouncing baby boy reflect negatively on Joe Bidens reelection campaign? The folks at the DNC have to be hoping beyond hope that Biden decides to not run so he can spend more time with his family.
At least to most people, it "proves" that the DOJ isn't shielding Hunter for political reasons.
Of course, the big problem is that Hunter may well get off entirely because of the prior SCOTUS decision that basically moots this violation. Judge could rule that enforcement is unconstitutional. Or a jury could be persuaded that it's not worth hardly any, if any, punishment.
It's not as if Hunter hasn't publicly admitted he lied on the form about doing drugs and that he got rid of the gun 11 days later in a reckless way. It's really not a violation that would normally even get charged...and maybe is now unconstitutional to convict on.
So, this could well backfire on MAGA.
It certainly is very likely the impeachment nonsense will backfire, all the more so if they actually take a vote without ever having produced any actual evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors by Joe.
Of course, if after 5 years of investigating they finally find some big flow of money into Joe's bank account that can be traced to Hunter's "influence peddling" another matter altogether...but they've never connected the dots remotely close to what rational people would think is actually a "high crime and misdemeanor" or in any way criminal act by Joe. I think that's because there's no there there.
I do think we'll see another indictment of Hunter on the tax charges...probably within the next 3 weeks.
Hunter may do some time at some point on one or more of these things, but he may well get off scot free. Either way, it backfires on MAGA.
Personally, I'd prefer to see Joe declare victory in an historic one term and call for a competitive election among the next generation. Say that you're going to focus on the major issues facing the US and the world with all your energy and not be distracted by campaigning...
which "Party" ?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:56 pmWhat it says to me, if Hunter walks, is the the Party is not serious about gun crime. Tread lightly, or they risk losing voters confidence and trust.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pmNope; expect all of this to rally the troops.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:03 pm Does this indictment of his bouncing baby boy reflect negatively on Joe Bidens reelection campaign? The folks at the DNC have to be hoping beyond hope that Biden decides to not run so he can spend more time with his family.
At least to most people, it "proves" that the DOJ isn't shielding Hunter for political reasons.
Of course, the big problem is that Hunter may well get off entirely because of the prior SCOTUS decision that basically moots this violation. Judge could rule that enforcement is unconstitutional. Or a jury could be persuaded that it's not worth hardly any, if any, punishment.
It's not as if Hunter hasn't publicly admitted he lied on the form about doing drugs and that he got rid of the gun 11 days later in a reckless way. It's really not a violation that would normally even get charged...and maybe is now unconstitutional to convict on.
So, this could well backfire on MAGA.
It certainly is very likely the impeachment nonsense will backfire, all the more so if they actually take a vote without ever having produced any actual evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors by Joe.
Of course, if after 5 years of investigating they finally find some big flow of money into Joe's bank account that can be traced to Hunter's "influence peddling" another matter altogether...but they've never connected the dots remotely close to what rational people would think is actually a "high crime and misdemeanor" or in any way criminal act by Joe. I think that's because there's no there there.
I do think we'll see another indictment of Hunter on the tax charges...probably within the next 3 weeks.
Hunter may do some time at some point on one or more of these things, but he may well get off scot free. Either way, it backfires on MAGA.
Personally, I'd prefer to see Joe declare victory in an historic one term and call for a competitive election among the next generation. Say that you're going to focus on the major issues facing the US and the world with all your energy and not be distracted by campaigning...
Does Hunter have any priors? What's his personality like when he's using drugs?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:12 pmwhich "Party" ?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:56 pmWhat it says to me, if Hunter walks, is the the Party is not serious about gun crime. Tread lightly, or they risk losing voters confidence and trust.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pmNope; expect all of this to rally the troops.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:03 pm Does this indictment of his bouncing baby boy reflect negatively on Joe Bidens reelection campaign? The folks at the DNC have to be hoping beyond hope that Biden decides to not run so he can spend more time with his family.
At least to most people, it "proves" that the DOJ isn't shielding Hunter for political reasons.
Of course, the big problem is that Hunter may well get off entirely because of the prior SCOTUS decision that basically moots this violation. Judge could rule that enforcement is unconstitutional. Or a jury could be persuaded that it's not worth hardly any, if any, punishment.
It's not as if Hunter hasn't publicly admitted he lied on the form about doing drugs and that he got rid of the gun 11 days later in a reckless way. It's really not a violation that would normally even get charged...and maybe is now unconstitutional to convict on.
So, this could well backfire on MAGA.
It certainly is very likely the impeachment nonsense will backfire, all the more so if they actually take a vote without ever having produced any actual evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors by Joe.
Of course, if after 5 years of investigating they finally find some big flow of money into Joe's bank account that can be traced to Hunter's "influence peddling" another matter altogether...but they've never connected the dots remotely close to what rational people would think is actually a "high crime and misdemeanor" or in any way criminal act by Joe. I think that's because there's no there there.
I do think we'll see another indictment of Hunter on the tax charges...probably within the next 3 weeks.
Hunter may do some time at some point on one or more of these things, but he may well get off scot free. Either way, it backfires on MAGA.
Personally, I'd prefer to see Joe declare victory in an historic one term and call for a competitive election among the next generation. Say that you're going to focus on the major issues facing the US and the world with all your energy and not be distracted by campaigning...
The Judge's party? The jury's party?
That's who gets to say whether he "walks" right?
Special Prosecutor Weiss' party? GOP
I keep hearing other prosecutors say that these charges wouldn't normally be brought unless the accused had priors or was dangerous. They say it sure looks like it's only because he's Biden's son. And Weiss only did so when he got so much flack from the House GOP...
If this gets ruled as unconstitutional you sure as heck can't blame the Dems for that...right?
The democratic party...full stop. Every news outlet should be thrilled that here we have a simple open and shut case, where he was essentially already going to plead guilty, and if he walks, the world will know the thumb was on the scale & the Big Guy helped keep a gun on the street for his son. Remember, the democratic side of the party is full on 'eff the 2A' as often as they can....so never let a crisis go to waste, fry em!.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:12 pmwhich "Party" ?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:56 pmWhat it says to me, if Hunter walks, is the the Party is not serious about gun crime. Tread lightly, or they risk losing voters confidence and trust.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pmNope; expect all of this to rally the troops.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:03 pm Does this indictment of his bouncing baby boy reflect negatively on Joe Bidens reelection campaign? The folks at the DNC have to be hoping beyond hope that Biden decides to not run so he can spend more time with his family.
At least to most people, it "proves" that the DOJ isn't shielding Hunter for political reasons.
Of course, the big problem is that Hunter may well get off entirely because of the prior SCOTUS decision that basically moots this violation. Judge could rule that enforcement is unconstitutional. Or a jury could be persuaded that it's not worth hardly any, if any, punishment.
It's not as if Hunter hasn't publicly admitted he lied on the form about doing drugs and that he got rid of the gun 11 days later in a reckless way. It's really not a violation that would normally even get charged...and maybe is now unconstitutional to convict on.
So, this could well backfire on MAGA.
It certainly is very likely the impeachment nonsense will backfire, all the more so if they actually take a vote without ever having produced any actual evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors by Joe.
Of course, if after 5 years of investigating they finally find some big flow of money into Joe's bank account that can be traced to Hunter's "influence peddling" another matter altogether...but they've never connected the dots remotely close to what rational people would think is actually a "high crime and misdemeanor" or in any way criminal act by Joe. I think that's because there's no there there.
I do think we'll see another indictment of Hunter on the tax charges...probably within the next 3 weeks.
Hunter may do some time at some point on one or more of these things, but he may well get off scot free. Either way, it backfires on MAGA.
Personally, I'd prefer to see Joe declare victory in an historic one term and call for a competitive election among the next generation. Say that you're going to focus on the major issues facing the US and the world with all your energy and not be distracted by campaigning...
The Judge's party? The jury's party?
That's who gets to say whether he "walks" right?
Special Prosecutor Weiss' party? GOP
I keep hearing other prosecutors say that these charges wouldn't normally be brought unless the accused had priors or was dangerous. They say it sure looks like it's only because he's Biden's son. And Weiss only did so when he got so much flack from the House GOP...
If this gets ruled as unconstitutional you sure as heck can't blame the Dems for that...right?
Don’t know how that will help them with the Second Amendment. They want no restrictions whatsoever related to guns.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:09 pmThat will help the r's with 2A and make the democrats livid. Surely, there is always a way to blame the republicans...
I'm thrilled to blame the Republicans.njbill wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:38 pmDon’t know how that will help them with the Second Amendment. They want no restrictions whatsoever related to guns.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:09 pmThat will help the r's with 2A and make the democrats livid. Surely, there is always a way to blame the republicans...
I vehemently disagree with Thomas’ decision as well as Heller and all of its progeny, but anybody in Hunter’s shoes would take advantage of it.
Once the election is concluded, or he decides not to run, he definitely will. Why wouldn’t he? Oh, because we are a nation of laws and ethical, honorable behavior?a fan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:22 pmI'm thrilled to blame the Republicans.njbill wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:38 pmDon’t know how that will help them with the Second Amendment. They want no restrictions whatsoever related to guns.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:09 pmThat will help the r's with 2A and make the democrats livid. Surely, there is always a way to blame the republicans...
I vehemently disagree with Thomas’ decision as well as Heller and all of its progeny, but anybody in Hunter’s shoes would take advantage of it.
You guys have been whining about the DoJ et. al. treating Republicans differently-----yet didn't care when Trump pardoned his buddies who broke laws.
Question: you'd have cheered if Joe had said he'd pardon his son, just like Trump pardoned his pals, right?
You and your Republican Party have been sitting on the low ground for so long, YA, you've forgotten what the high ground looks like.
Want to wager on Joe giving Hunter a pardon? According to Republican voter ethical rules, Joe should do that immediately. Look at how much support Trump has gotten by doing that?
He lied in the application process. He’s not a felon found in possession, they didn’t indict him for possession in my reading of the indictment. How is it unconstitutional? And his wife at the time thought he was a danger, why else would she throw out the gun?