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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:05 pm

6x6 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:06 pm 0E9D1A05-0E5F-4110-B461-989CF8A80FD4.jpeg

gator!

Bonesgate?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/us/coron ... index.html

Encourage your friends and family to get vaccinated.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:13 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/us/coron ... index.html

Encourage your friends and family to get vaccinated.

people sit in judgment. our transparency has been putrid. and we wonder why.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:13 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/us/coron ... index.html

Encourage your friends and family to get vaccinated.

people sit in judgment. our transparency has been putrid. and we wonder why.

All I know is that this virus has killed over 4 million people….staying away from people and vaccinations is how you usually respond to a deadly virus. So long as a person can live with staying away from other human beings, they don’t need to be vaccinated.

I guess we can just tell people to go on about their business and ignore it….may end up with a lot more dead people, maybe not. I guess we can take a hands off approach for one year, hands on a second year and then make a decision two/three years from now.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:44 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:13 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/us/coron ... index.html

Encourage your friends and family to get vaccinated.

people sit in judgment. our transparency has been putrid. and we wonder why.

All I know is that this virus has killed over 4 million people….staying away from people and vaccinations is how you usually respond to a deadly virus. So long as a person can live with staying away from other human beings, they don’t need to be vaccinated.

I guess we can just tell people to go on about their business and ignore it….may end up with a lot more dead people, maybe not. I guess we can take a hands off approach for one year, hands on a second year and then make a decision two/three years from now.

your post was about about people being ignorant. our government has either not been forthcoming or they've been lazy.

your solution is to trust them anyway. i'm saying that doesn't work. you're saying... i don't know what you're saying.

my guess is it still will continue not to work. spitballing.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:06 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:11 pm The news gets more puzzling...

Per article in Washington Post:

"Vaccinated people made up three-quarters of those infected in a massive Massachusetts covid-19 outbreak, pivotal CDC study finds

The cluster of cases in Provincetown, Mass., which were linked to the delta variant, came amid densely packed July Fourth celebrations. The findings, which also showed vaccinated people had greater protection against severe disease even though they could spread the virus, significantly influenced a move by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this week to reinstitute recommendations that people — vaccinated or not — wear masks in indoor public settings in some circumstances."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... -guidance/

Just a guess, but I'd bet that Provincetown has an extremely high vaccination rate, relative to other parts of Massachusetts, which itself has a high rate relative to much of the country. Meaning that 25% being among unvaccinated is very disproportionate to the actual percentage of potential unvaccinated to infect.

Was the P-town study controlled for people on hiv antiretrovirals or PReP Rx ?

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:57 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:44 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:13 pm https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/us/coron ... index.html

Encourage your friends and family to get vaccinated.

people sit in judgment. our transparency has been putrid. and we wonder why.

All I know is that this virus has killed over 4 million people….staying away from people and vaccinations is how you usually respond to a deadly virus. So long as a person can live with staying away from other human beings, they don’t need to be vaccinated.

I guess we can just tell people to go on about their business and ignore it….may end up with a lot more dead people, maybe not. I guess we can take a hands off approach for one year, hands on a second year and then make a decision two/three years from now.

your post was about about people being ignorant. our government has either not been forthcoming or they've been lazy.

your solution is to trust them anyway. i'm saying that doesn't work. you're saying... i don't know what you're saying.

my guess is it still will continue not to work. spitballing.

I am making decisions based on what I have studied, how mankind has responded to prior infectious diseases and how the rest of the world is reacting. I suppose the USA Government runs the planet. I am not relying on “the government telling me what to do”. When I see nurses and doctors not washing their hands and wearing a mask, I will them believe they are a waste of time. I am a rather safe than sorry type guy. A mask doesn’t bother me at all. It’s like wearing a hat or sunglasses.

I have had many conversations with really ignorant people. They would be better of just saying “I just don’t want to get vaccinated or wear a mask and I don’t have a good reason.” Better that than some reason that defies logic….like “a mask may lock the virus inside me”….yeah you may be able to look past that, I can’t. Or “the virus is a hoax because my can of Lysol says it kill coronavirus and I had that can before they started talking about Covid.” Or “we are shutting down the economy so someone can make money off it”….. SMH…..those ignorant people.

Many young, healthy people do a personal risk assessment on whether or not to take the vaccine.
Given that it is still an Emergency Use Authorization indicates that it is not yet possible to know the long term effects.

We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.
So far, they prefer to take the risk of surviving the infection. If Delta produces significantly more hospitalizations & serious illness among the young without high risk factors, more will accept the vaccination.

When the govt cites broad categories of stats, without distinguishing or controlling for risk factors within the group cited, it undermines confidence in the motives of the govt.

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:05 am Many young, healthy people do a personal risk assessment on whether or not to take the vaccine.
Given that it is still an Emergency Use Authorization indicates that it is not yet possible to know the long term effects.

We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.
So far, they prefer to take the risk of surviving the infection. If Delta produces significantly more hospitalizations & serious illness among the young without high risk factors, more will accept the vaccination.

When the govt cites broad categories of stats, without distinguishing or controlling for risk factors within the group cited, it undermines confidence in the motives of the govt.

2% of the 199,000,000 cases opened up have ended in death. Enough people don’t get vaccinated, we may get to Zeta. When these people are sitting at home and perhaps out of work, it’s not “the government’s fault”….it’s ain’t called a novel virus for nothing. Wishful thinking and prayers may eventually help…. You speak for all those people?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6528469/

All lies.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:37 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:05 am Many young, healthy people do a personal risk assessment on whether or not to take the vaccine.
Given that it is still an Emergency Use Authorization indicates that it is not yet possible to know the long term effects.

We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.
So far, they prefer to take the risk of surviving the infection. If Delta produces significantly more hospitalizations & serious illness among the young without high risk factors, more will accept the vaccination.

When the govt cites broad categories of stats, without distinguishing or controlling for risk factors within the group cited, it undermines confidence in the motives of the govt.

2% of the 199,000,000 cases opened up have ended in death. Enough people don’t get vaccinated, we may get to Zeta. When these people are sitting at home and perhaps out of work, it’s not “the government’s fault”….it’s ain’t called a novel virus for nothing. Wishful thinking and prayers may eventually help…. You speak for all those people?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6528469/

All lies.

I speak only for myself -- I'm vaccinated. I'm passing along what decliners have told me.
They need to be convinced. What's been done has not worked on them.
They are accurate when the say none of us know the long term effects of these vaccines still under an EUSA.

Estimates are that the rest of the globe won't have vaccine avail to all willing to take it until sometme in 2023.
We'll have zeta here by then, unless we close our borders.

Guys — zeta is only two letters after delta. SMH.

Last letter of the alphabet is omega. Not zeta.

ggait wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:20 am Guys — zeta is only two letters after delta. SMH.

Last letter of the alphabet is omega. Not zeta.

That’s right. That alpha-omega thing.

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:37 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:05 am Many young, healthy people do a personal risk assessment on whether or not to take the vaccine.
Given that it is still an Emergency Use Authorization indicates that it is not yet possible to know the long term effects.

We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.
So far, they prefer to take the risk of surviving the infection. If Delta produces significantly more hospitalizations & serious illness among the young without high risk factors, more will accept the vaccination.

When the govt cites broad categories of stats, without distinguishing or controlling for risk factors within the group cited, it undermines confidence in the motives of the govt.

2% of the 199,000,000 cases opened up have ended in death. Enough people don’t get vaccinated, we may get to Zeta. When these people are sitting at home and perhaps out of work, it’s not “the government’s fault”….it’s ain’t called a novel virus for nothing. Wishful thinking and prayers may eventually help…. You speak for all those people?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6528469/

All lies.

I speak only for myself -- I'm vaccinated. I'm passing along what decliners have told me.
They need to be convinced. What's been done has not worked on them.
They are accurate when the say none of us know the long term effects of these vaccines still under an EUSA.

Estimates are that the rest of the globe won't have vaccine avail to all willing to take it until sometme in 2023.
We'll have zeta here by then, unless we close our borders.

Strict social distancing works even better…but but.

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 am We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.

yup...my wife is a school teacher and has heard this on multiple occasions. If the vaccine is not being advised for children, then how does one rationalize it would be safe for a child in utero.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:48 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 am We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.

yup...my wife is a school teacher and has heard this on multiple occasions. If the vaccine is not being advised for children, then how does one rationalize it would be safe for a child in utero.

A pregnant woman should be able to social distance for 7-9 months and forgo the vaccine. Strict social distancing is an effective mitigant. I believe there is a 3-5% chance for natural birth defects. Any vaccines on record for causing a birth defect? It would be at least a data point.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:31 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:37 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:05 am Many young, healthy people do a personal risk assessment on whether or not to take the vaccine.
Given that it is still an Emergency Use Authorization indicates that it is not yet possible to know the long term effects.

We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.
So far, they prefer to take the risk of surviving the infection. If Delta produces significantly more hospitalizations & serious illness among the young without high risk factors, more will accept the vaccination.

When the govt cites broad categories of stats, without distinguishing or controlling for risk factors within the group cited, it undermines confidence in the motives of the govt.

2% of the 199,000,000 cases opened up have ended in death. Enough people don’t get vaccinated, we may get to Zeta. When these people are sitting at home and perhaps out of work, it’s not “the government’s fault”….it’s ain’t called a novel virus for nothing. Wishful thinking and prayers may eventually help…. You speak for all those people?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6528469/

All lies.

I speak only for myself -- I'm vaccinated. I'm passing along what decliners have told me.
They need to be convinced. What's been done has not worked on them.
They are accurate when the say none of us know the long term effects of these vaccines still under an EUSA.

Estimates are that the rest of the globe won't have vaccine avail to all willing to take it until sometme in 2023.
We'll have zeta here by then, unless we close our borders.

Strict social distancing works even better…but but.

Democrats in action, nothing beats it!!!

1. Lori Beetlejuice Lightfoot attends 250,000 person Lollapalooza event maskless

https://abc7chicago.com/lollapalooza-20 ... /10924383/

3. Mayor Bowser of DC officiates a maskless wedding after telling the citizens they must wear masks!

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-dc-ma ... sk-mandate

3. Obama to host 500 person, 200 staff birthday party at his Martha’s Vineyard oceanfront compound (global warming doesn’t happen on the Vineyard!!! )

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... s-vineyard

Man, love to see this!!! Will MDLax peel away from Desantis Derangement to criticize these Democratic politicians?!

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:56 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:48 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 am We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.

yup...my wife is a school teacher and has heard this on multiple occasions. If the vaccine is not being advised for children, then how does one rationalize it would be safe for a child in utero.

A pregnant woman should be able to social distance for 7-9 months and forgo the vaccine. Strict social distancing is an effective mitigant. I believe there is a 3-5% chance for natural birth defects. Any vaccines on record for causing a birth defect? It would be at least a data point.

It is not just about birth defects. We have a friend with a young child that received a vaccine (cant recall which one, I will update when wife reminds me), normal healthy child, within 48 hours the vaccine was doing damage, lost control of motor skills, wheel chair bound entire life. It happens and is real life, it effects everyone around them and is not always going to be a stat one can measure.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:07 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:56 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:48 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 am We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.

yup...my wife is a school teacher and has heard this on multiple occasions. If the vaccine is not being advised for children, then how does one rationalize it would be safe for a child in utero.

A pregnant woman should be able to social distance for 7-9 months and forgo the vaccine. Strict social distancing is an effective mitigant. I believe there is a 3-5% chance for natural birth defects. Any vaccines on record for causing a birth defect? It would be at least a data point.

It is not just about birth defects. We have a friend with a young child that received a vaccine (cant recall which one, I will update when wife reminds me), normal healthy child, within 48 hours the vaccine was doing damage, lost control of motor skills, wheel chair bound entire life. It happens and is real life, it effects everyone around them and is not always going to be a stat one can measure.

I know someone killed crossing the street.

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/pub ... -pregnancy

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:10 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:07 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:56 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:48 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 am We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.

yup...my wife is a school teacher and has heard this on multiple occasions. If the vaccine is not being advised for children, then how does one rationalize it would be safe for a child in utero.

A pregnant woman should be able to social distance for 7-9 months and forgo the vaccine. Strict social distancing is an effective mitigant. I believe there is a 3-5% chance for natural birth defects. Any vaccines on record for causing a birth defect? It would be at least a data point.

It is not just about birth defects. We have a friend with a young child that received a vaccine (cant recall which one, I will update when wife reminds me), normal healthy child, within 48 hours the vaccine was doing damage, lost control of motor skills, wheel chair bound entire life. It happens and is real life, it effects everyone around them and is not always going to be a stat one can measure.

I know someone killed crossing the street.

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/pub ... -pregnancy

I am sure you do...I am sure you do.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:13 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:10 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:07 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:56 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:48 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 am We've encountered many young female vet techs & health care workers who fear potential fertility & birth defect risks, yet unknown.

yup...my wife is a school teacher and has heard this on multiple occasions. If the vaccine is not being advised for children, then how does one rationalize it would be safe for a child in utero.

A pregnant woman should be able to social distance for 7-9 months and forgo the vaccine. Strict social distancing is an effective mitigant. I believe there is a 3-5% chance for natural birth defects. Any vaccines on record for causing a birth defect? It would be at least a data point.

It is not just about birth defects. We have a friend with a young child that received a vaccine (cant recall which one, I will update when wife reminds me), normal healthy child, within 48 hours the vaccine was doing damage, lost control of motor skills, wheel chair bound entire life. It happens and is real life, it effects everyone around them and is not always going to be a stat one can measure.

I know someone killed crossing the street.

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/pub ... -pregnancy

I am sure you do...I am sure you do.

Leaving a skating rink in 6th grade. Anyway, someone with a bad personal experience can be understandably concerned. Do you know if the person’s issue was determined to be linked to the vaccine?