Re: Johns Hopkins 2020
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:22 am
Where'd this Degnon kid come from? Nice to see an unheralded player emerge to make significant contributions.
nrthcrosslax wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:22 am Where'd this Degnon kid come from? Nice to see an unheralded player emerge to make significant contributions.
Dematha produces a lot of athletes who only get better in college (Paul Rabil anyone?). This kid could be a breakout star for HOP.For Hop, I thought this kid Garrett Deignon looked good...Smart hard low shot. How come you never hear of him?
He's a sophomore. He came from the bench. While guys like DeSimone and Baskin put up regular donuts last year his talented 6'4 frame got a front row seat.nrthcrosslax wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:22 am Where'd this Degnon kid come from? Nice to see an unheralded player emerge to make significant contributions.
Back in the Dean Smith days, a friend of mine at Duke used to say, "Yeah, I rooted for Carolina. Once. They were playing the Russians."WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:57 pmCarpetbagging mercenary. You just want Carolina to lose.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:01 pmDocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:08 pm Don’t know what all the fuss is about. Blue Jays have a talented team this season. Good speed, size, and athleticism all over the field. Also improved depth compared to past seasons.
Blue Jays also have injuries to key people, lots of new starters and contributors, and a tough schedule. Hopkins is going to be inconsistent for a while.
Vast majority of coaches around the country would love to have guys like Zinn and Degnon on their midfields. DeSimone, Zinn, and Degnon are all on pace for about 20 goals or more this season. I’ll take that.
Zinn is generating a lot of offensive opportunities for himself and others off the dodge. For a lot of players, averaging an additional assist or goal per game is an unrealistic ask. Not so for Zinn ... well within his capabilities to be averaging four points a game (All-America caliber production) versus his current three.
I’m not sold on Darby yet, especially on whether he can ever be a vocal leader of the defense. Issues with clears may be a sign of that. Still, I think our defense is playing better as a team than last year.
If the young men put the work in and Epstein can work his way back to form (and who would wager against him?), this could be a pretty special Hopkins team. Don’t be surprised if that special team takes a few weeks more to develop.
DocBarrister
Ring a gosh-darn cow-bell; I agree with a post from DocB!!!!! This is the first, and possibly only post of his, that makes sense, especially the highlight above.
I'm no friend of this program, but my respect is deep. DocB captures this team well with the highlighted sentences above. The boys will recover despite the coach, heck maybe even in spite of the coach! I look forward to them pasting those Tar Heel interlopers this weekend! Get at it!
Plenty of midfielders have been valuable without ever being able to do anything consistently but run past their man. I watched Romar Dennis make a whole career out of it. Hop not using Zinn regularly when they couldn't get any dodging threat out of anyone but Epstein with consistency was inexcusable.51percentcorn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:11 pm 5 goals in 2 games - Degnon has been a pleasant surprise. But let's not automatically assume he would have done this last year as a freshman. First, the spot he is scoring a decent amount of his goals from was occupied by Marr last year - not DeSimone or Baskin. I am not going to sit here and say I am an expert on the kid's total game but he may not be a downhill middie dodger or comfortable doing the things he might have needed to do to be successful away from that spot on the field. Maybe he can and will.
Virtually everyone has opined on Zinn's failings that may have kept him away from the 1st line last year - turnovers, decision making, shooting percentage. I'll put out there that unlike one poster who said he and Williams can't hid the broad side of a barn - I'll say right now Zinn and Williams are hitting the barn plenty but they are hitting the screen door way too often. It will come.
Who was that really fast middie that JHU had that could run by his man but had trouble finishing? He ended up with a knee injury (good player) I believe Zinn will give you more than he did but just getting the defense to rotate is valuable.TheBigIguana wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:16 pmPlenty of midfielders have been valuable without ever being able to do anything consistently but run past their man. I watched Romar Dennis make a whole career out of it. Hop not using Zinn regularly when they couldn't get any dodging threat out of anyone but Epstein with consistency was inexcusable.51percentcorn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:11 pm 5 goals in 2 games - Degnon has been a pleasant surprise. But let's not automatically assume he would have done this last year as a freshman. First, the spot he is scoring a decent amount of his goals from was occupied by Marr last year - not DeSimone or Baskin. I am not going to sit here and say I am an expert on the kid's total game but he may not be a downhill middie dodger or comfortable doing the things he might have needed to do to be successful away from that spot on the field. Maybe he can and will.
Virtually everyone has opined on Zinn's failings that may have kept him away from the 1st line last year - turnovers, decision making, shooting percentage. I'll put out there that unlike one poster who said he and Williams can't hid the broad side of a barn - I'll say right now Zinn and Williams are hitting the barn plenty but they are hitting the screen door way too often. It will come.
Connor Reed?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:37 pm Who was that really fast middie that JHU had that could run by his man but had trouble finishing? He ended up with a knee injury (good player) I believe Zinn will give you more than he did but just getting the defense to rotate is valuable.
That’s him! I always liked him. I am not sure he was ever the same after the injury. He had ability though.nrthcrosslax wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:50 pmConnor Reed?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:37 pm Who was that really fast middie that JHU had that could run by his man but had trouble finishing? He ended up with a knee injury (good player) I believe Zinn will give you more than he did but just getting the defense to rotate is valuable.
John Greely I believe. Two knee injuries severely limited the potential when he came to JHU as a top recruit. Ranagan was the other and demonstrated great downhill speed, but it seemed that he could not hit the broadside of a barn either - at least until he went pro.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:37 pmWho was that really fast middie that JHU had that could run by his man but had trouble finishing? He ended up with a knee injury (good player) I believe Zinn will give you more than he did but just getting the defense to rotate is valuable.TheBigIguana wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:16 pmPlenty of midfielders have been valuable without ever being able to do anything consistently but run past their man. I watched Romar Dennis make a whole career out of it. Hop not using Zinn regularly when they couldn't get any dodging threat out of anyone but Epstein with consistency was inexcusable.51percentcorn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:11 pm 5 goals in 2 games - Degnon has been a pleasant surprise. But let's not automatically assume he would have done this last year as a freshman. First, the spot he is scoring a decent amount of his goals from was occupied by Marr last year - not DeSimone or Baskin. I am not going to sit here and say I am an expert on the kid's total game but he may not be a downhill middie dodger or comfortable doing the things he might have needed to do to be successful away from that spot on the field. Maybe he can and will.
Virtually everyone has opined on Zinn's failings that may have kept him away from the 1st line last year - turnovers, decision making, shooting percentage. I'll put out there that unlike one poster who said he and Williams can't hid the broad side of a barn - I'll say right now Zinn and Williams are hitting the barn plenty but they are hitting the screen door way too often. It will come.
First real test for this new-look Hopkins defense. Allowing 17 goals on a 56% save percentage through two games is probably much better than what most people predicted. But neither Towson nor Loyola look particularly threatening on offense this year. North Carolina, on the other hand, is loaded.
Ok, cool, then I wasn't talking about you!WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:12 pm For the record, I didn’t see anyone saying fire the coach.
For what, trying to talk about lacrosse on a lacrosse forum? Guilty!WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:12 pm16, resume control of the thread. You’ve become as bad as DB
UNC's defensive midfield has two experienced players in Soph. Connor Maher (voted preseason All-ACC SSDM), and Junior Parker Alexander (played in every game in 2019.)