Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:46 pm
nursing homes won't mandate en masse because they struggle already to maintain staff. if states mandated nursing homes, that also wouldn't likely solve that problem. their best bet is determine what liability they have and have to pay for to insure, and bribe with that.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:37 pm Time to consider mandates? Read this and say W. T. F.
https://www.propublica.org/article/dont ... 19-vaccine
Understood, and the article alludes to staffing problems. But the fact of such a vulnerable population being served by an unvaccinated staff just freaks me out.wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:16 pmnursing homes won't mandate en masse because they struggle already to maintain staff. if states mandated nursing homes, that also wouldn't likely solve that problem. their best bet is determine what liability they have and have to pay for to insure, and bribe with that.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:37 pm Time to consider mandates? Read this and say W. T. F.
https://www.propublica.org/article/dont ... 19-vaccine
the feds won't mandate, outside of whatever challenges they'd receive, because it wins them zero more votes, and could cost them plenty.
Oh. A man date is enforced same-sex dating. Thanks, brother, for the translation from the right. Now I understand.FannOLax wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:58 pm A mandate? Well, divide and conquer...
A) No way, that would be communism, Nazism, any other bad, nasty-sounding ism word that pops into our heads.
B) Certainly, public health is important.
C) What about Benghazi? And she's a pedophile!
D) What, a man date?? I'm a man, so I want a woman date, damnit!
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:54 am Before everyone jumps on the mask bandwagon (again), please note the causality with suicide, which at least in two countries (Japan and the UK), the numbers are alarming.
https://abc7news.com/japan-suicides-sui ... n/8359064/
In Japan, more people died by suicide LAST MONTH than from COVID in all of 2020
My take on this is it’s a shame people, and governments, didn’t take more aggressive actions with Covid to begin with. Faster and more complete mask wearing compliance and continued vaccination rates that we had in early spring would have dramatically reduced the number or size of waves we’ve had and allowed us to get back to normal sooner. Now we’re in a Covid purgatory and don’t know how long it will last. I believe had we all behaved safer and sooner there’d be less people over a shorter period of time who felt so depressed over Covid and the changes to society and economy caused by it that they’d feel the only way out is suicide.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:54 am Before everyone jumps on the mask bandwagon (again), please note the causality with suicide, which at least in two countries (Japan and the UK), the numbers are alarming.
https://abc7news.com/japan-suicides-sui ... n/8359064/
In Japan, more people died by suicide LAST MONTH than from COVID in all of 2020
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:06 amPeter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:54 am Before everyone jumps on the mask bandwagon (again), please note the causality with suicide, which at least in two countries (Japan and the UK), the numbers are alarming.
https://abc7news.com/japan-suicides-sui ... n/8359064/
In Japan, more people died by suicide LAST MONTH than from COVID in all of 2020
Brilliant
The hospital should have turned him away unless he had a legitimate reason for not being vaccinated.Brooklyn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:57 am Family says conservative radio host has changed his tune on vaccines after he was hospitalized with Covid-19
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/famil ... d=msedgntp
For months, conservative Nashville, Tennessee-based radio host Phil Valentine has repeatedly made posts on multiple social media platforms telling his fans that if they weren't at risk for Covid-19, they shouldn't get the vaccine.
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/ten ... =679&y=188
That message changed on July 23, when the Valentine family made a public statement on the Facebook page of his talk radio station's Facebook page.
"Phil contracted the Covid virus a little over a week ago and has since been hospitalized and is in very serious condition, suffering from Covid Pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the family statement reads, which emphasizes that Valentine has never been an anti-vaxxer. "(Phil) regrets not being more vehemently 'Pro-Vaccine' and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on the air, which we all hope will be soon."
It ends by urging listeners to continue praying for Valentine and to "PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!"
Valentine's hospitalization came after the talk radio show host repeatedly dismissed the seriousness of the virus and the importance of vaccines in preventing infection.
On December 17, 2020, Valentine wrote on his blog that his odds of getting Covid-19 were "pretty low," and that the odds of him dying from it were "probably way less than one percent."
"If I decide not to get vaccinated, I'm not putting anyone else's life in danger except perhaps people who have made the same decision," he wrote.
That's because, he wrote, the vaccine is highly effective so there wasn't any way he could infect someone who's been vaccinated if he got Covid-19.
He also argued that he wasn't an "anti-vaxxer," he was just a "logical thinker."
Valentine repeatedly made similar vaccine misinformation posts and shared misleading information about Covid-19 on social media. He even told followers they didn't need to get the vaccine.
One woman posted that her sister had encouraged her to get vaccinated but her "gut told her not to" because she'd already had the virus.
"Don't listen to your sister," Valentine responded. "If you've had (Covid-19) you have natural immunity."
He told another follower that "only those in danger of dying from (Covid-19) should've gotten vaccinated."
Health officials and doctors say people who've previously had Covid-19 should still get vaccinated. Late-stage clinical trial data suggests the vaccines are safe and help protect people with past Covid-19 infections from reinfection, regardless of whether they had mild or severe Covid-19 infections.
Three months ago, Valentine even tried to draw comparisons between hospital workers who had to indicate their Covid-19 vaccination status on their work ID badges with Jews forced to wear yellow stars in Nazi Germany. That vaccination status indication on hospital worker IDs is common and is made for other vaccines, including the seasonal flu.
On June 20, he even wrote and performed a parody song called "Vaxman" in which he again used it to push an anti-vaccine agenda.
CNN reached out to Valentine and his radio station but did not receive a response.
Told ya so.
You should watch that movie if you are a film buff. My daughter and I watched it years ago. She happened to like black and white Japanese films. This was excellent too:Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:37 amTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:06 amPeter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:54 am Before everyone jumps on the mask bandwagon (again), please note the causality with suicide, which at least in two countries (Japan and the UK), the numbers are alarming.
https://abc7news.com/japan-suicides-sui ... n/8359064/
In Japan, more people died by suicide LAST MONTH than from COVID in all of 2020
Brilliant
In the inestimable words of George W Bush, that was some weird sh!t. What did I just watch?
no way i'm voting for you in the next election cycle.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:16 amThe hospital should have turned him away unless he had a legitimate reason for not being vaccinated.Brooklyn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:57 am Family says conservative radio host has changed his tune on vaccines after he was hospitalized with Covid-19
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/famil ... d=msedgntp
For months, conservative Nashville, Tennessee-based radio host Phil Valentine has repeatedly made posts on multiple social media platforms telling his fans that if they weren't at risk for Covid-19, they shouldn't get the vaccine.
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/ten ... =679&y=188
That message changed on July 23, when the Valentine family made a public statement on the Facebook page of his talk radio station's Facebook page.
"Phil contracted the Covid virus a little over a week ago and has since been hospitalized and is in very serious condition, suffering from Covid Pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the family statement reads, which emphasizes that Valentine has never been an anti-vaxxer. "(Phil) regrets not being more vehemently 'Pro-Vaccine' and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on the air, which we all hope will be soon."
It ends by urging listeners to continue praying for Valentine and to "PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!"
Valentine's hospitalization came after the talk radio show host repeatedly dismissed the seriousness of the virus and the importance of vaccines in preventing infection.
On December 17, 2020, Valentine wrote on his blog that his odds of getting Covid-19 were "pretty low," and that the odds of him dying from it were "probably way less than one percent."
"If I decide not to get vaccinated, I'm not putting anyone else's life in danger except perhaps people who have made the same decision," he wrote.
That's because, he wrote, the vaccine is highly effective so there wasn't any way he could infect someone who's been vaccinated if he got Covid-19.
He also argued that he wasn't an "anti-vaxxer," he was just a "logical thinker."
Valentine repeatedly made similar vaccine misinformation posts and shared misleading information about Covid-19 on social media. He even told followers they didn't need to get the vaccine.
One woman posted that her sister had encouraged her to get vaccinated but her "gut told her not to" because she'd already had the virus.
"Don't listen to your sister," Valentine responded. "If you've had (Covid-19) you have natural immunity."
He told another follower that "only those in danger of dying from (Covid-19) should've gotten vaccinated."
Health officials and doctors say people who've previously had Covid-19 should still get vaccinated. Late-stage clinical trial data suggests the vaccines are safe and help protect people with past Covid-19 infections from reinfection, regardless of whether they had mild or severe Covid-19 infections.
Three months ago, Valentine even tried to draw comparisons between hospital workers who had to indicate their Covid-19 vaccination status on their work ID badges with Jews forced to wear yellow stars in Nazi Germany. That vaccination status indication on hospital worker IDs is common and is made for other vaccines, including the seasonal flu.
On June 20, he even wrote and performed a parody song called "Vaxman" in which he again used it to push an anti-vaccine agenda.
CNN reached out to Valentine and his radio station but did not receive a response.
Told ya so.
I don’t have time for foolishness.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:41 pmno way i'm voting for you in the next election cycle.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:16 amThe hospital should have turned him away unless he had a legitimate reason for not being vaccinated.Brooklyn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:57 am Family says conservative radio host has changed his tune on vaccines after he was hospitalized with Covid-19
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/famil ... d=msedgntp
For months, conservative Nashville, Tennessee-based radio host Phil Valentine has repeatedly made posts on multiple social media platforms telling his fans that if they weren't at risk for Covid-19, they shouldn't get the vaccine.
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/ten ... =679&y=188
That message changed on July 23, when the Valentine family made a public statement on the Facebook page of his talk radio station's Facebook page.
"Phil contracted the Covid virus a little over a week ago and has since been hospitalized and is in very serious condition, suffering from Covid Pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the family statement reads, which emphasizes that Valentine has never been an anti-vaxxer. "(Phil) regrets not being more vehemently 'Pro-Vaccine' and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on the air, which we all hope will be soon."
It ends by urging listeners to continue praying for Valentine and to "PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!"
Valentine's hospitalization came after the talk radio show host repeatedly dismissed the seriousness of the virus and the importance of vaccines in preventing infection.
On December 17, 2020, Valentine wrote on his blog that his odds of getting Covid-19 were "pretty low," and that the odds of him dying from it were "probably way less than one percent."
"If I decide not to get vaccinated, I'm not putting anyone else's life in danger except perhaps people who have made the same decision," he wrote.
That's because, he wrote, the vaccine is highly effective so there wasn't any way he could infect someone who's been vaccinated if he got Covid-19.
He also argued that he wasn't an "anti-vaxxer," he was just a "logical thinker."
Valentine repeatedly made similar vaccine misinformation posts and shared misleading information about Covid-19 on social media. He even told followers they didn't need to get the vaccine.
One woman posted that her sister had encouraged her to get vaccinated but her "gut told her not to" because she'd already had the virus.
"Don't listen to your sister," Valentine responded. "If you've had (Covid-19) you have natural immunity."
He told another follower that "only those in danger of dying from (Covid-19) should've gotten vaccinated."
Health officials and doctors say people who've previously had Covid-19 should still get vaccinated. Late-stage clinical trial data suggests the vaccines are safe and help protect people with past Covid-19 infections from reinfection, regardless of whether they had mild or severe Covid-19 infections.
Three months ago, Valentine even tried to draw comparisons between hospital workers who had to indicate their Covid-19 vaccination status on their work ID badges with Jews forced to wear yellow stars in Nazi Germany. That vaccination status indication on hospital worker IDs is common and is made for other vaccines, including the seasonal flu.
On June 20, he even wrote and performed a parody song called "Vaxman" in which he again used it to push an anti-vaccine agenda.
CNN reached out to Valentine and his radio station but did not receive a response.
Told ya so.