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I don’t know all the details but I’m not sure they “had” to. Certainly not in the same way Princeton had to with Bates.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:05 pm

Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:19 am But he was way way outplayed by his counterpart for Loyola, who is also a Junior.

I don't know, this seems like grasping at straws to pin it on the goalie when in fact he was one of the only Blue Jays who played well enough to win that game. He's not competing against their goalie. He's competing against their shooters. He saved more shots than he allowed in. That at least gives you a shot. He did his job, for the most part (again, outlet passes continue to be a bit of an adventure). God knows I was hoping we'd have a new goalie this year but I'm not going to complain about 56% through two games.

loyola11 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:42 pm I am jumping over to the hopkins page to give you guys my opinion of hopkins.

Playing Epstein a huge mistake, looked like a hs player... could not move, turnovers, that was a coaching mistake

FO was handled by Savio.

GK, played well.

Middies, Zinn did not live up to the hype, he looked overwhelmed. Your middies overall are average.

EMO has alot to work on, 2 man up and you do not score.

You have alot to work on with your upcoming schedule... maybe 500 again this year

"Overwhelmed" is most definitely not the right word for Zinn's performance. He had a bad shooting day—still had more points than any Loyola middie.

While we're sharing opinions of one another—I don't think you should be very pleased with that performance from the Greyhounds. We may have been bad but that does not necessarily mean you were good. 20% offensive efficiency through two games (60th in the country). Good luck scoring against Army this year.

Disappointing loss by the Blue Jays. But I would count it for what it is, a February loss, and move on. Team should build on this and appreciate it as a wake up call.

The fundamentals of this Hopkins team are sill pretty good. Defense kept an opponent at ten goals or less for a second game. Goalie play was ok (issues with clears are often a communication problem). First midfield has been productive and we’re watching two sophomore middies starting to distinguish themselves. Zinn obviously needs to work on his shooting, but he’s generating his own opportunities (and opportunities for others). DeSimone has already matched his 2019 goal total. Degnon is becoming a young star.

Other than Smith, attack was neutralized. Won’t happen often. Epstein’s going to require a fair amount of time to rehab that knee. You can argue about whether he came back “too soon.” Fact is, he was going to need a lot of time to get back to his old self, no matter when he took the field again.

Blue Jays’ fundamentals are still pretty strong. All the new starters need more reps to develop and improve. Some veteran starters are banged up and will need time to get back up to speed. Others (like Darby) are clearly working hard to get better.

I still think this team is going to be really good in March and April. From what we saw yesterday, they are still a work in progress.

DocBarrister

Same problem for many years at Homewood.

Worst shooting team of all playoff teams in D1. To quote Bull Durham, "from what I hear, your players couldn't hit water if they fell out of a freaking boat." Their shooting is WORSE than last year. And that's saying something.

Benson puts them in great shooting positions again and again. 10 yards and closer, hands free.

Two choices here: these kids are arriving on campus as the worst shooters in D1. Or, and this is my preference, they're not putting the work in.

This is on the players, imho. Or, if you prefer, the recruiting of players who are horrible shooters, and not D1 material.

When they shoot at the same accuracy rate as Final Four teams? They drop 17 on Penn St. It takes pressure of their D, and rests them. It takes pressure off their middies between the lines. Their whole game looks better.


So when a player everyone here is hyping cans just 1 of 12 shots? And the next man up goes 0 for 6? Get ready to be unhappy.

WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:27 pm The most telling thing about that postgame news conference was the comments on practice not going that well as if they were comfortable with that win over Towson. That analysis was frustrating - and is on both the players and coaches.

Complacency is not an option. That breeds defeat. That’s walking into each weekend with the potential of a loss not motivating enough. Maybe the fallback option of a potential AQ led to this way of thinking - some regular season losses aren’t so bad and they can afford a few in the loss column.

But, we’re not talking about going 11-2 or 10-3 versus undefeated anymore. We’re talking about losses having become so routine, they seem to be acceptable as the team and staff waddle through near .500 seasons and non-competitive blowout playoff losses.

THAT is NOT Hopkins Technique and Tradition.

I hear what you’re saying Old Friend, and I miss the glory days as well (and those days were recent ... 2002-2005).

I’m considered to be “optimistic” about the season, and I am still thinking a 9-4 regular season record and maybe 10-5 heading into the NCAA tournament. Duke has already lost, and Maryland has needed late comebacks in recent weeks. Lots of good teams out there.

Still think this Hopkins team has the building blocks of a Final Four team. We’re seeing some new starters develop quite well. There’s real potential there. Up to the boys and their coaches to play up to that potential.

Would be patient with this team. If they don’t play up to their potential this season, well, then we could have another conversation at that time.

DocBarrister

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:34 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:06 pm Noticed that, too. Not a good look. Tells you some of what is an obvious issue at Hop...

Honest question, have you ever seen a college lacrosse postgame press conference before in your life? This is how every team does it—the coach makes a short statement at the beginning and then it's open to questions for both coach and player(s). They don't choose what questions get asked. Only one question was asked of Forry. He answered it. Had there been more questions for him, he would have answered those. But nobody else asked him anything. That's how news conferences work. "Not a good look," "an obvious issue,"—absolute nonsense.

Maybe but a body language expert would have a field day with Smith in this presser. This looked and felt like a bigger deal than a one off loss.

Also the fact that it sounds like it was a country club attitude in practice last week is infuriating and it’s on the coaches, captains and seniors.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:21 pm But it was still a panicky unplanned action. You telling me they had designs on Kerwick ever being HC there?

The Deluca situation wasn’t out of the blue.

Let's say things don't break well over the next couple of weeks, and the Jays catch Ls against UNC, @Princeton, and Cuse (not saying that will happen but if). On a 4-game losing streak, does the team have the leaders to respond? Mount, @Navy, and @UD...would have to like the Jays' chances of getting on a good streak heading into B1G play. Even in the B1G, the schedule sets up really well...Michigan and @RU to start 2-0. So the key is whether or not the team has the leadership to push through this next 3 game stretch if things don't go well. Not a ton of experience, really, on the team. Lots of youth and guys in starring roles for the first time. Does it all hinge on Epstein?

flalax22 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:22 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:34 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:06 pm Noticed that, too. Not a good look. Tells you some of what is an obvious issue at Hop...

Honest question, have you ever seen a college lacrosse postgame press conference before in your life? This is how every team does it—the coach makes a short statement at the beginning and then it's open to questions for both coach and player(s). They don't choose what questions get asked. Only one question was asked of Forry. He answered it. Had there been more questions for him, he would have answered those. But nobody else asked him anything. That's how news conferences work. "Not a good look," "an obvious issue,"—absolute nonsense.

Maybe but a body language expert would have a field day with Smith in this presser. This looked and felt like a bigger deal than a one off loss.

Also the fact that it sounds like it was a country club attitude in practice last week is infuriating and it’s on the coaches, captains and seniors.

Ain't my team, don't truly care, but the whole JHU presser and sideline dynamic is interesting to the casual observer of human interaction.

a fan might be right, maybe Petro is trying to take the heat for the game by talking for the entirety of the presser...that's a fair guess. Or (and I believe this is more correct), this JHU program is in dire need of fresh leadership blood to awaken the beast that is JHU lacrosse. JHU has tremendous talent this year...god's honest truth, I thought they'd beat us yesterday (I still feel like the Hounds need the non-OOC schedule to find our team character, but I do love our arc rn). Our best defender was sitting down for the game...

Does Petro strike you as a coach you want to play for? Is he in the same league as Toomey or Tillman? I don't believe so. No knock on the guy, but everyone burns out in the same position for too long. Have Bloomberg cut him a check for $10 million and head off into the sunset. Bloomie won't even notice it.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:36 pm

flalax22 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:22 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:34 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:06 pm Noticed that, too. Not a good look. Tells you some of what is an obvious issue at Hop...

Honest question, have you ever seen a college lacrosse postgame press conference before in your life? This is how every team does it—the coach makes a short statement at the beginning and then it's open to questions for both coach and player(s). They don't choose what questions get asked. Only one question was asked of Forry. He answered it. Had there been more questions for him, he would have answered those. But nobody else asked him anything. That's how news conferences work. "Not a good look," "an obvious issue,"—absolute nonsense.

Maybe but a body language expert would have a field day with Smith in this presser. This looked and felt like a bigger deal than a one off loss.

Also the fact that it sounds like it was a country club attitude in practice last week is infuriating and it’s on the coaches, captains and seniors.

Ain't my team, don't truly care, but the whole JHU presser and sideline dynamic is interesting to the casual observer of human interaction.

a fan might be right, maybe Petro is trying to take the heat for the game by talking for the entirety of the presser...that's a fair guess. Or (and I believe this is more correct), this JHU program is in dire need of fresh leadership blood to awaken the beast that is JHU lacrosse. JHU has tremendous talent this year...god's honest truth, I thought they'd beat us yesterday (I still feel like the Hounds need the non-OOC schedule to find our team character, but I do love our arc rn). Our best defender was sitting down for the game...

Does Petro strike you as a coach you want to play for? Is he in the same league as Toomey or Tillman? I don't believe so. No knock on the guy, but everyone burns out in the same position for too long. Have Bloomberg cut him a check for $10 million and head off into the sunset. Bloomie won't even notice it.

No he isn’t a coach you’d want to play for. And for anyone to suggest practice is like a “country club atmosphere” is is just plain insanity! These kids and captains work their asses off every day and take a massive amount of pride in their craft. They currently have a pool of deep talent, that is not the problem, never has been.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:25 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:21 pm But it was still a panicky unplanned action. You telling me they had designs on Kerwick ever being HC there?

The Deluca situation wasn’t out of the blue.

My understanding was it was hazing related but if you are correct doesn’t that make elevating Kerwick who at that point was damaged goods even worse?

I always appreciated how Ed Stephenson went to the wall for his kids at Bingo. That was so reactive because they had a Serbian BB player who beat a dude into a coma then ran home combined w finding out the Star Point guard was a coke dealer.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:36 pm
Does Petro strike you as a coach you want to play for? Is he in the same league as Toomey or Tillman? I don't believe so. No knock on the guy, but everyone burns out in the same position for too long. Have Bloomberg cut him a check for $10 million and head off into the sunset. Bloomie won't even notice it.

No need. His contract expires at the end of the season. Lame duck coaches with .500 records do not get contract extensions.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:18 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:25 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:21 pm But it was still a panicky unplanned action. You telling me they had designs on Kerwick ever being HC there?

The Deluca situation wasn’t out of the blue.

My understanding was it was hazing related but if you are correct doesn’t that make elevating Kerwick who at that point was damaged goods even worse?

I always appreciated how Ed Stephenson went to the wall for his kids at Bingo. That was so reactive because they had a Serbian BB player who beat a dude into a coma then ran home combined w finding out the Star Point guard was a coke dealer.

I forgot about that Serbian Binghamton BB player. Didn't know about the drug dealer.

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:52 pm Same problem for many years at Homewood.

Worst shooting team of all playoff teams in D1. To quote Bull Durham, "from what I hear, your players couldn't hit water if they fell out of a freaking boat." Their shooting is WORSE than last year. And that's saying something.

Benson puts them in great shooting positions again and again. 10 yards and closer, hands free.

Two choices here: these kids are arriving on campus as the worst shooters in D1. Or, and this is my preference, they're not putting the work in.

This is on the players, imho. Or, if you prefer, the recruiting of players who are horrible shooters, and not D1 material.

When they shoot at the same accuracy rate as Final Four teams? They drop 17 on Penn St. It takes pressure of their D, and rests them. It takes pressure off their middies between the lines. Their whole game looks better.


So when a player everyone here is hyping cans just 1 of 12 shots? And the next man up goes 0 for 6? Get ready to be unhappy.

If you’re saying Hop has a lot of soft, entitles, pedigreed kids who aren’t doing what’s necessary can you confirm that’s what I think I’m reading? Not to piss guys off here, but let’s be honest, somebody has to have those kids, whether it’s late 2000s GTown, then UNC for a few years, then the tail end of Starsia at UVA. I could see that even though I only watch 3-5 hop games a year, typically big matchups and they seem to always pull at least 1-2 of those out and make people revisit that type of thesis.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:45 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:18 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:25 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:21 pm But it was still a panicky unplanned action. You telling me they had designs on Kerwick ever being HC there?

The Deluca situation wasn’t out of the blue.

My understanding was it was hazing related but if you are correct doesn’t that make elevating Kerwick who at that point was damaged goods even worse?

I always appreciated how Ed Stephenson went to the wall for his kids at Bingo. That was so reactive because they had a Serbian BB player who beat a dude into a coma then ran home combined w finding out the Star Point guard was a coke dealer.

I forgot about that Serbian Binghamton BB player. Didn't know about the drug dealer.

Yeah he was on the one tourney team they had and it all blew up fast and the school just crushed all athletics for a little bit after that. Hobart fan sketch can say more but it was a mess and Stephenson did what id hope a HC would do, same as Pressler but unlike the admin at Duke mid 2000s.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:50 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:45 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:18 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:25 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:21 pm But it was still a panicky unplanned action. You telling me they had designs on Kerwick ever being HC there?

The Deluca situation wasn’t out of the blue.

My understanding was it was hazing related but if you are correct doesn’t that make elevating Kerwick who at that point was damaged goods even worse?

I always appreciated how Ed Stephenson went to the wall for his kids at Bingo. That was so reactive because they had a Serbian BB player who beat a dude into a coma then ran home combined w finding out the Star Point guard was a coke dealer.

I forgot about that Serbian Binghamton BB player. Didn't know about the drug dealer.

Yeah he was on the one tourney team they had and it all blew up fast and the school just crushed all athletics for a little bit after that. Hobart fan sketch can say more but it was a mess and Stephenson did what id hope a HC would do, same as Pressler but unlike the admin at Duke mid 2000s.

thanks.

That should read "Ketch" rather than Sketch (autocorrect on my phone) though if he lives in my old hometown of Binghamton and went to Hobart, the former may apply.

(He's a great guy, but you can never trust a Hobart grad still running around upstate NY as a rule)

I hate to say much or anything on a rivals site but many of your fans need to face a reality. You are still HOPKINS! Any kid playing this game beginning from a young age knows about Hopkins and would die to play there. Yeah, maybe it ain't the glory days anymore but your tradition is still there and every team, especially those players who didn't get a chance to suit up for the Blue Jays, gets up to play Hopkins. You guys bring out the best from any team you play. Just a fact.

Now maybe recruiting's been down a bit lately, and kids that wanted to play there feel snubbed. That's true. That's why they play hard against you. But you still get really good players and you have them on your team. I know most, if not every player, doesn't gives a damn about what Lax Power posters write, and don't even pay attention to it, but cut yourself some slack and give these young men a hand when they're down instead of beating the crap out of them.

Come on... I appreciate your knowledge and insight into the game and you might have a lot to add, but too many add too much. Just take care of business and you'll be fine. Wouldn't
be surprised to see you guys again later this year...at least I'm hoping for it. And please, don't pin it all on Epstein. He's hurt. He must have the hugest heart in the world to have gone out there yesterday. Thanks for letting me share.

"here we go again" paraphrasing Ronnie Reagan...

another year, same old ****



unacceptable...

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:45 pm I don’t know all the details but I’m not sure they “had” to. Certainly not in the same way Princeton had to with Bates.

Bates situation was far more public, but yeah, if I understand correctly, they really couldn't just wait for another season to go through and then do it in the regular rhythm. More than the little bit that came through the media. Tough situation no matter how you slice it. Of course, that doesn't mean that they handled it well after coming to the decision to have him leave.

Hop has an enormously different challenge. But it has faced such before.

Epstein was injured. Another of the top 6 missed as well ? Epstein is an elite player. By that I mean he can score north of 80 points and raise the overall production by 5 or more ppg. Loyola is a very good team. They won at home by 3. The home field differential. It was always going to be a close game.

Stanwick was a blue chip player but gosh he was underperforming. And ze coach ze coach. It’s like ze plane ze plane. No need to look at the obvious.

Did I miss the second coming of Del Dressel or Paul Rabil? I had hard time finding those 3-5 pts.

I know they covered the spread of PB. They also held LC to 10. So much for Wombat’s prognostication. Covered that too.

If Epstein can’t get healthy it going to be a long season. Second elite offensive key to suffer a major injury.