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In fairness dairy margins are such that immigration wouldn’t stop the need for significant consolidation (or 15-20% higher end user/retail) prices in general. Had a number of long Vic redactions in Binghamton with the head dairy scientist for Crowley Foods who bartender at night while spending all the time I did in Binghamton for my mother two years ago. Learned a ton about that industry and was a shocked they were an $800mm revenue business and still struggling.

I’m for open borders in general but other AG like produce probably has a better economic argument for immigration because we know JimBob from Steuben Co NY or Kosciusko Ms don’t want to pick strawberries and get paid by the bushel.

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:26 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:45 pm The Idaho Story: The dairyman and the immigrant.

Keep saying that if you don't believe where the ACTUAL immigration problem lies, ask a farmer.

Because EVERYONE listens to farmers, regardless of politics. Especially so with smaller farms.

Pretty moving stuff. Wouldn't it be nice if these Idaho farmers could show the rest of American farmers to kick the politicians that are in the way---both D's and R's----out of their way, and actually fix this 40 year old problem?

Naaah. Let's instead build a pointless wall, and find new people to hate. Because hate solves everything, right?

... not really so amazing what can happen when there is a confluence of financial interest on both sides coupled with open minds and much more free space than people. If there is one thing the US has, its far more open space than people.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:44 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:26 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:45 pm The Idaho Story: The dairyman and the immigrant.

Keep saying that if you don't believe where the ACTUAL immigration problem lies, ask a farmer.

Because EVERYONE listens to farmers, regardless of politics. Especially so with smaller farms.

Pretty moving stuff. Wouldn't it be nice if these Idaho farmers could show the rest of American farmers to kick the politicians that are in the way---both D's and R's----out of their way, and actually fix this 40 year old problem?

Naaah. Let's instead build a pointless wall, and find new people to hate. Because hate solves everything, right?

... not really so amazing what can happen when there is a confluence of financial interest on both sides coupled with open minds and much more free space than people. If there is one thing the US has, its far more open space than people.

Especially so out here in the West. Now water is a different problem, but......


And yes, we SHOULD drive the immigration issue with financial interest. We're losing money so that Dems and R's have a stoopid fake campaign issue that they will NEVER address after they get elected.

27 Cuban migrants — including eight children — land in Key West on a wooden boat

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... rylink=cpy



The U.S. Coast Guard has stopped at sea over 3,000 Florida-bound Cuban migrants since October — more than the last five fiscal years combined, according to the agency, the Miami Herald reported earlier this month. More than 140,000 Cubans have been detained at U.S. borders between October and May, surpassing the Mariel exodus of 1980 when 125,000 Cubans departed from the Port of Mariel near Havana between April and October 1980.



Send them back!

And then there was this from a few weeks ago:

https://twitter.com/billfoxla/status/15 ... zZSnwN0vDA

Apologize if it’s been discussed elsewhere.

I am a strong proponent of immigrants coming to the US.

But I can’t imagine this is a great idea given the current world climate. Or if a similar situation would be looked positively upon in other countries.

And the president’s press secretary denies its happening?

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:44 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:26 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:45 pm The Idaho Story: The dairyman and the immigrant.

Keep saying that if you don't believe where the ACTUAL immigration problem lies, ask a farmer.

Because EVERYONE listens to farmers, regardless of politics. Especially so with smaller farms.

Pretty moving stuff. Wouldn't it be nice if these Idaho farmers could show the rest of American farmers to kick the politicians that are in the way---both D's and R's----out of their way, and actually fix this 40 year old problem?

Naaah. Let's instead build a pointless wall, and find new people to hate. Because hate solves everything, right?

... not really so amazing what can happen when there is a confluence of financial interest on both sides coupled with open minds and much more free space than people. If there is one thing the US has, its far more open space than people.

Plenty of space, not so much water. Go read the Powell report on populating the West. We should have listened.

Wrap you heads around this phrase: climate migrants.

You ain’t seen nothing yet. And who knows, we all may be said migrants soon.

Seems democrats support it....until it's in their backyard: https://www.instagram.com/p/CiQl3nqufGo/

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:21 pm Seems democrats support it....until it's in their backyard: https://www.instagram.com/p/CiQl3nqufGo/

Certainly true, and holy cow does this woman deserve this.

I was vehemently against the childish game of not enforcing Federal laws.....BS sanctuary cities.

Fix the problem, and quit complaining.

Prima facie evidence why politicians have no clue how to run a country that they'd resort to this BS in an pitiful attempt to "solve" a problem that they all have no intention of addressing.

Ron DeSantis literally used Florida taxpayer money to pay for a scheme to pick up migrants who were in Texas - that is, not even in Florida - and fly them to Massachusetts. How are Floridians possibly okay with that?

How about the rest of us? Are we OK with garbage like this?

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:18 pm Prima facie evidence why politicians have no clue how to run a country that they'd resort to this BS in an pitiful attempt to "solve" a problem that they all have no intention of addressing.

Ron DeSantis literally used Florida taxpayer money to pay for a scheme to pick up migrants who were in Texas - that is, not even in Florida - and fly them to Massachusetts. How are Floridians possibly okay with that?

How about the rest of us? Are we OK with garbage like this?

Nope. As we told Petey------DeSantis is TrumpLite. All the TrumpNonsense, with fewer calories.

Republicans are INSANE if they think their party is going to get rid of TrumpNation "governing". We're going to get more "stick it to the libs" from Republicans than ever before.

Sometimes you just have to punch someone in the belly to get their attention. I am sure one or two of those mansions can house an additional 50 guests.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:39 pm Sometimes you just have to punch someone in the belly to get their attention. I am sure one or two of those mansions can house an additional 50 guests.

Since Biden took office (28 months), his administration has allowed in more than one million migrants, many of whom will wait months or years for hearings because of legal and procedural backlogs. More than a million migrants similarly detained at the border were similarly admitted to the country on a temporary basis over a 24 month stretch of the Trump administration, according to Migration Policy Institute.

This is a stunt before an election and not, in any way, an offer to jointly address the problem. Florida chartered two planes (with taxpayer funds), flew them to San Antonio TX to pick up migrants to fly them to Massachusetts, alerted Faux News but not authorities at destination or departure which might even be illegal. Garbage BS which I'd expect you to be honest about rather than making a bad joke.

Until Congress and Executive decide to even attempt to deal with the issues, the rest of us are left with the BS by our elected officials of BOTH parties who won't do their jobs.

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:13 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:39 pm Sometimes you just have to punch someone in the belly to get their attention. I am sure one or two of those mansions can house an additional 50 guests.

Since Biden took office (28 months), his administration has allowed in more than one million migrants, many of whom will wait months or years for hearings because of legal and procedural backlogs. More than a million migrants similarly detained at the border were similarly admitted to the country on a temporary basis over a 24 month stretch of the Trump administration, according to Migration Policy Institute.

This is a stunt before an election and not, in any way, an offer to jointly address the problem. Florida chartered two planes (with taxpayer funds), flew them to San Antonio TX to pick up migrants to fly them to Massachusetts, alerted Faux News but not authorities at destination or departure which might even be illegal. Garbage BS which I'd expect you to be honest about rather than making a bad joke.

Until Congress and Executive decide to even attempt to deal with the issues, the rest of us are left with the BS by our elected officials of BOTH parties who won't do their jobs.

Typical partisan lean, before actually getting to the point I made above.

Well, it was in the budget... And I am quite sure, the majoriy in Florida and Texas will be willing to spend even more next year. Maybe you can send Desantis your zipcode and your city can be the next stop.

Taryn Fenske, DeSantis' communications director, has confirmed that Florida legislator approved the use of $12 million to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations," in line with federal law, as reported by the Associated Press.

The information provided by Fenske is confirmed by the Freedom First budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 approved by DeSantis on June 2, a $109.9 billion state budget bill that included a program to transport immigrants out of the state.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:37 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:13 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:39 pm Sometimes you just have to punch someone in the belly to get their attention. I am sure one or two of those mansions can house an additional 50 guests.

Since Biden took office (28 months), his administration has allowed in more than one million migrants, many of whom will wait months or years for hearings because of legal and procedural backlogs. More than a million migrants similarly detained at the border were similarly admitted to the country on a temporary basis over a 24 month stretch of the Trump administration, according to Migration Policy Institute.

This is a stunt before an election and not, in any way, an offer to jointly address the problem. Florida chartered two planes (with taxpayer funds), flew them to San Antonio TX to pick up migrants to fly them to Massachusetts, alerted Faux News but not authorities at destination or departure which might even be illegal. Garbage BS which I'd expect you to be honest about rather than making a bad joke.

Until Congress and Executive decide to even attempt to deal with the issues, the rest of us are left with the BS by our elected officials of BOTH parties who won't do their jobs.

Typical partisan lean, before actually getting to the point I made above.

Well, it was in the budget... And I am quite sure, the majoriy in Florida and Texas will be willing to spend even more next year. Maybe you can send Desantis your zipcode and your city can be the next stop.

Taryn Fenske, DeSantis' communications director, has confirmed that Florida legislator approved the use of $12 million to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations," in line with federal law, as reported by the Associated Press.

The information provided by Fenske is confirmed by the Freedom First budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 approved by DeSantis on June 2, a $109.9 billion state budget bill that included a program to transport immigrants out of the state.

IMHO not partisan at all. I'm calling out both sides for failure to deal with this use at all and for the 2 governors for additionally just being a-holes about it.

Common sense and cooperation on the part off our elected representatives
These politicians accepted THE SAME NUMBER OF MIGRANTS OVER A SIMILAR PERIOD WHEN THEIR GUY WAS IN CHARGE. They sent NONE anywhere.

Can we assume you'd feel the same way if they were sent to YOUR location instead of mine?


Not even an original idea - Tucker Carlson specifically suggested on air back in July to relocate migrants to MV.

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:43 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:37 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:13 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:39 pm Sometimes you just have to punch someone in the belly to get their attention. I am sure one or two of those mansions can house an additional 50 guests.

Since Biden took office (28 months), his administration has allowed in more than one million migrants, many of whom will wait months or years for hearings because of legal and procedural backlogs. More than a million migrants similarly detained at the border were similarly admitted to the country on a temporary basis over a 24 month stretch of the Trump administration, according to Migration Policy Institute.

This is a stunt before an election and not, in any way, an offer to jointly address the problem. Florida chartered two planes (with taxpayer funds), flew them to San Antonio TX to pick up migrants to fly them to Massachusetts, alerted Faux News but not authorities at destination or departure which might even be illegal. Garbage BS which I'd expect you to be honest about rather than making a bad joke.

Until Congress and Executive decide to even attempt to deal with the issues, the rest of us are left with the BS by our elected officials of BOTH parties who won't do their jobs.

Typical partisan lean, before actually getting to the point I made above.

Well, it was in the budget... And I am quite sure, the majoriy in Florida and Texas will be willing to spend even more next year. Maybe you can send Desantis your zipcode and your city can be the next stop.

Taryn Fenske, DeSantis' communications director, has confirmed that Florida legislator approved the use of $12 million to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations," in line with federal law, as reported by the Associated Press.

The information provided by Fenske is confirmed by the Freedom First budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 approved by DeSantis on June 2, a $109.9 billion state budget bill that included a program to transport immigrants out of the state.

IMHO not partisan at all.
Common sense and cooperation on the part off our elected representatives
These politicians accepted THE SAME NUMBER OF MIGRANTS OVER A SIMILAR PERIOD WHEN THEIR GUY WAS IN CHARGE. They sent NONE anywhere.

Can we assume you'd feel the same way if they were sent to YOUR location instead of mine?

I'd be fine with it. You forget, I live in the DMV....we certainly have more than our share. And yet the intolerant wealthy in Mass, show their true colors.

Virtue signaling Martha Vinyard resident: https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/sta ... wvm10GfGMg

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:51 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:43 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:37 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:13 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:39 pm Sometimes you just have to punch someone in the belly to get their attention. I am sure one or two of those mansions can house an additional 50 guests.

Since Biden took office (28 months), his administration has allowed in more than one million migrants, many of whom will wait months or years for hearings because of legal and procedural backlogs. More than a million migrants similarly detained at the border were similarly admitted to the country on a temporary basis over a 24 month stretch of the Trump administration, according to Migration Policy Institute.

This is a stunt before an election and not, in any way, an offer to jointly address the problem. Florida chartered two planes (with taxpayer funds), flew them to San Antonio TX to pick up migrants to fly them to Massachusetts, alerted Faux News but not authorities at destination or departure which might even be illegal. Garbage BS which I'd expect you to be honest about rather than making a bad joke.

Until Congress and Executive decide to even attempt to deal with the issues, the rest of us are left with the BS by our elected officials of BOTH parties who won't do their jobs.

Typical partisan lean, before actually getting to the point I made above.

Well, it was in the budget... And I am quite sure, the majoriy in Florida and Texas will be willing to spend even more next year. Maybe you can send Desantis your zipcode and your city can be the next stop.

Taryn Fenske, DeSantis' communications director, has confirmed that Florida legislator approved the use of $12 million to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations," in line with federal law, as reported by the Associated Press.

The information provided by Fenske is confirmed by the Freedom First budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 approved by DeSantis on June 2, a $109.9 billion state budget bill that included a program to transport immigrants out of the state.

IMHO not partisan at all.
Common sense and cooperation on the part off our elected representatives
These politicians accepted THE SAME NUMBER OF MIGRANTS OVER A SIMILAR PERIOD WHEN THEIR GUY WAS IN CHARGE. They sent NONE anywhere.

Can we assume you'd feel the same way if they were sent to YOUR location instead of mine?

I'd be fine with it. You forget, I live in the DMV....we certainly have more than our share. And yet the intolerant wealthy in Mass, show their true colors.

I don't live in Massachusetts. That isn't the point and you know it. Stuff like this IMHO makes it impossible to have a discussion. Not only is it not remotely funny but your attitude isn't conducive to any kind of conversation. Very sad. Sayonara.

"Our island jumped into action putting together 50 beds, giving everyone a good meal, providing a play area for the children, making sure people have the healthcare and support they need. We are a community that comes together to support immigrants." - https://twitter.com/RepDylan/status/1570223926155874305

DeSantis sent 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard by plane as an anti-liberal stunt. The locals pulled together to help them.

Imagine spending $240,000 per person, with taxpayer funds no less, to try and "own the libs."

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:56 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:51 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:43 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:37 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:13 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:39 pm Sometimes you just have to punch someone in the belly to get their attention. I am sure one or two of those mansions can house an additional 50 guests.

Since Biden took office (28 months), his administration has allowed in more than one million migrants, many of whom will wait months or years for hearings because of legal and procedural backlogs. More than a million migrants similarly detained at the border were similarly admitted to the country on a temporary basis over a 24 month stretch of the Trump administration, according to Migration Policy Institute.

This is a stunt before an election and not, in any way, an offer to jointly address the problem. Florida chartered two planes (with taxpayer funds), flew them to San Antonio TX to pick up migrants to fly them to Massachusetts, alerted Faux News but not authorities at destination or departure which might even be illegal. Garbage BS which I'd expect you to be honest about rather than making a bad joke.

Until Congress and Executive decide to even attempt to deal with the issues, the rest of us are left with the BS by our elected officials of BOTH parties who won't do their jobs.

Typical partisan lean, before actually getting to the point I made above.

Well, it was in the budget... And I am quite sure, the majoriy in Florida and Texas will be willing to spend even more next year. Maybe you can send Desantis your zipcode and your city can be the next stop.

Taryn Fenske, DeSantis' communications director, has confirmed that Florida legislator approved the use of $12 million to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations," in line with federal law, as reported by the Associated Press.

The information provided by Fenske is confirmed by the Freedom First budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 approved by DeSantis on June 2, a $109.9 billion state budget bill that included a program to transport immigrants out of the state.

IMHO not partisan at all.
Common sense and cooperation on the part off our elected representatives
These politicians accepted THE SAME NUMBER OF MIGRANTS OVER A SIMILAR PERIOD WHEN THEIR GUY WAS IN CHARGE. They sent NONE anywhere.

Can we assume you'd feel the same way if they were sent to YOUR location instead of mine?

I'd be fine with it. You forget, I live in the DMV....we certainly have more than our share. And yet the intolerant wealthy in Mass, show their true colors.

I don't live in Massachusetts. That isn't the point and you know it. Stuff like this IMHO makes it impossible to have a discussion. Not only is it not remotely funny but your attitude isn't conducive to any kind of conversation. Very sad. Sayonara.

Conversations with our pols, have gone no where, for decades....which is the point of what has taken place in this instance. Again, as my initial comment in our thread stated "Sometimes you just have to punch someone in the belly to get their attention". I am willing to bet, that something good will come from this, although not immediately, b/c it would then appear like this recent tactic worked.

[urlhttps://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=400796#p400796]As I noted earlier this week[/url]. I am completely comfortable with what is going on.