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Kleizaster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:09 pm

MolonLaxe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:20 pm

Relax77 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:16 pm

MolonLaxe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:59 pm

Relax77 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:50 pm I don't understand the UNC hate. Have they had stellar recruiting classes? Yes. Do they also need to win the games? Yes. The thing about UNC is they are getting tons of top kids. They can afford to miss on half of them. Can a team like Stony Brook, Coastal Carolina or Drexel afford to miss on half their recruits, no, but a team like UNC is bringing in so many of these top recruits, they can afford to be wrong on some.

UNC has been wrong some of the time by targeting top recruits that didn’t quite fit the culture Jenny wanted. She’s stated as much in various interviews, although she doesn’t go into great depth on it.

It’s easy to get sucked into trying to pull as many of the “top” recruits as possible, but if they don’t fit the culture it’s a waste of time. We’ve seen UNC underperform in those situations previously.

As does every other team. No one is right 100% of the time. Schools like UNC, BC, NU, Cuse can be wrong 25% of the time because they usually have pick of the litter. Schools like JMU, PSU, UVA etc, can't, because they are picking second for the most part.

This is where I’d disagree with you. Get players that don’t fit the culture and it can destroy of severely impact team success. And for some teams? It only takes 1 or 2 of those girls to bring it all down.

Every kid Jenny recruits fits her culture and playing style. Fast and athletic. see my previous posts. UNC has one of the lowest transfer rates. Especially among freshmen recruits. They stick around. Can't say that about other top programs. That goes against the idea that she recruits players that don't fit. Otherwise the program would be a revolving door.

The program has been utterly dominant since 2019 except for last season. No one said anything.

It's actually impressive they keep recruiting well despite all that. Could they have won more? sure. But i don't think it's because of not having the right players. The only reason is because its sports and things happen. No one is winning 3 straight championships in this era anymore, no matter how talented you are.

But you can say that about BC as well and all the time they've come short in the final four and championship games. Same with NU. So it's odd that it's just UNC that gets held to this other standard that no one else does.

forthelaxofit wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:58 pm I always get a chuckle out the UNC recruit underachieving comments. BC, NU, UNC, Syracuse and yes Maryland have dominated the final 4 in the past 5 seasons. (only Denver and Florida have each made it once outside of them). Let’s face it, with the portal over the last 4 years, every National Champion has had at least 2 MAJOR additions via the portal. Recruiting alone has not won a national title in the 4 year period from 21-24. UNC haters love saying they have underachieved. To say a team underachieved in recruiting when the annual National Champions are bringing in All Star caliber players is a little ridiculous. People want to talk about UNC lack of depth last year, what would BC depth have looked like without Clark, LoPinto and Browndorf? Or NU depth over the last 2 years without their transfers? (and please spare me the we would have won anyway because we had Freshman HS AA on the bench who could have stepped right in - but couldn’t beat out the starter to get meaningful minutes). Sadly, the way these teams hit the portal again this summer, I think this trend will continue in 2025 with the eventual winner again having a couple significant transfer adds.

As far as recruits, I hope the girls picking these power lacrosse schools understand they are just not competing against other home grown recruits for playing time, put also the “for hire” transfers that will continue to come in. Go in eyes wide open.

LaxMomNYC wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:57 pm How would Coach Levy do with Denver's recruiting class? Or Loyola's? An earlier comment about the best goalie in the class - says who? Rankings are so subjective and only focus on the players available to the ranking service. It is such an inexact science that can't possibly cover the entire landscape, nor does it have enough actual game analysis of each player to truly do a competent job. To say a certain school got the best player or the top class, based upon completely random and incomplete player landscape availability, is pointless. I've watched 5 star recruits get boat-raced for an entire game and seen unheralded no stars dominate while no one noticed. Players like Ashley Humphrey, who add immeasurable value to team goals through niche excellence, are what, in the end, make a great class.

watcherinthewoods wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:00 pm

TipToes79 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:41 am

LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:09 am BC with a huge day -- pickup 2 Philly girls including the best goalie in the class.

That's debatable. What's with the Triple H connection? There have been four or five in the last two years. It's not like they are a top club in the country; they consistently fall outside the top 10.

Founder/head of Triple H (which is a relatively new club in Philly) is extraordinary at placing kids at coveted programs and in teams in high profile events and US lax programs. This helped her start the club ... and allowed her to attract top players.

TipToes79 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:20 pm

watcherinthewoods wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:00 pm

TipToes79 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:41 am

LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:09 am BC with a huge day -- pickup 2 Philly girls including the best goalie in the class.

That's debatable. What's with the Triple H connection? There have been four or five in the last two years. It's not like they are a top club in the country; they consistently fall outside the top 10.

Founder/head of Triple H (which is a relatively new club in Philly) is extraordinary at placing kids at coveted programs and in teams in high profile events and US lax programs. This helped her start the club ... and allowed her to attract top players.

She definitely is great at getting her girls placed. Some everyone is talking about culture in some of the other posts I just wonder how it works when a team like BC takes do many girls from the same club. Would seem like it would make for instant clique creation but I guess it could also be instant chemistry. You just don’t see that too much and I think that’s 5-7 triple h girls in two classes.

njbill wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:48 pm Taylor Cummings won it in 2014, 2015, and 2016. She was the number one recruit in the 2012 class.

Kleizaster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:53 pm One thing that's becoming clear is the talent coming out of the South. Not really talked about due to the lack of super stars but quietly increasing each year.

Kleizaster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:53 pm One thing that's becoming clear is the talent coming out of the South. Not really talked about due to the lack of super stars but quietly increasing each year.

Rich727 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:23 am Hello everyone,

I’m looking for advice on decommitting. My 25 daughter is committed and going out west but is now reconsidering her decision. She’s reached out to her club coach and director, but their responses have been minimal, and they’ve moved her behind the 26s.

I understand that the typical advice is for her to inform the college coach about her change in plans. However, my concern is that she’s hesitant to decommit without first exploring other potential options at schools she likes. Has anyone here navigated a similar situation or have any insights?

She planned to start emailing a few coaches who had contacted her last September. We are aware that there is a possibility the school might find out, and while it’s a great school with awesome lacrosse, she wasn't sure if she’d feel comfortable being so far from home.

TipToes79 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:55 am Has anyone been watching the WLax numbers on FB? He added a column showing the team size over the next few seasons. If the roster caps go into effect then I think most teams will only recruit 35. If you look at the 26-27 column you can see why this class might be way smaller than others. Lots of schools are at the cap for that 26 season already. Crazy

lacrossemwj wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:10 am

TipToes79 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:55 am Has anyone been watching the WLax numbers on FB? He added a column showing the team size over the next few seasons. If the roster caps go into effect then I think most teams will only recruit 35. If you look at the 26-27 column you can see why this class might be way smaller than others. Lots of schools are at the cap for that 26 season already. Crazy

LIU with 19(!) 2025s. I had to wonder if that was an error.

LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:06 am

Rich727 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:23 am Hello everyone,

I’m looking for advice on decommitting. My 25 daughter is committed and going out west but is now reconsidering her decision. She’s reached out to her club coach and director, but their responses have been minimal, and they’ve moved her behind the 26s.

I understand that the typical advice is for her to inform the college coach about her change in plans. However, my concern is that she’s hesitant to decommit without first exploring other potential options at schools she likes. Has anyone here navigated a similar situation or have any insights?

She planned to start emailing a few coaches who had contacted her last September. We are aware that there is a possibility the school might find out, and while it’s a great school with awesome lacrosse, she wasn't sure if she’d feel comfortable being so far from home.

Tricky situation for sure.

A few of my thoughts.

1) If she reaches out to other coaches, its not an if the committed will find out, she will. Unless being proactively recruited, its best to recommit before reaching out to someone else.

2) Is the situation beyond hope? Maybe there is something the current coach could do to help solve the problem / address the issues

3) Have other schools been reaching out to her? I know FSU is going after some 25 commits now. Does she have any target schools?

4) Don't blame the club coach completely. They don't want your daughter to decommit because it hurts their reputation.