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Bidding time waiting for anything new on the origins story.

David Baltimore walks back his "smoking gun" statement used by Nicholas Wade a month ago that was used to justify the lab leak theory.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:31 pm David Baltimore walks back his "smoking gun" statement used by Nicholas Wade a month ago that was used to justify the lab leak theory.

oops.

My nit with this article, indeed with all those who are so convinced that proving how this began (either way) has serious consequences, is that it poses a binary response whereas seems to me that the mere existence that either could have happened is sufficient to come to the conclusions that:

1) Lab safety protocols should be greatly beefed up and rigorously monitored by international third parties.

2) Zoonotic transmission regularly produces deadly viruses, including pandemics, and thus, much greater care should be exercised in how animals are handled (eg not stacked with feces dropping between species!)

3) Virus research is crucial to prevention and swift response to limit potential pandemics. Do it, but do it carefully!

I don't see where it makes much difference from a scientific perspective, which it turns out to be. It has always been a Trumpnista political issue.

We know both are possible. If zoonotic, would be nice to know which member(s) of the zoo. But still likely not a big deal. If lab leak, not the first, won't be the last. Has happened in every country with the know how, either biological or chemical or both.

UCLA study shows states that took covid more seriously had better economic performance in 2020:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo ... 25163.html

Meh, it’s a bunch of higher ed, most likely lib, know-it-alls. Why should we believe them?

Explainer: China's Mojiang Mine.

Remind me, exactly how many pinheads can dance on an angel?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... eak-theory

“A Nobel prize-winning US biologist, who has been widely quoted describing a “smoking gun” to support the thesis that Covid-19 was genetically modified and escaped from a Wuhan lab, has said he overstated the case.”

this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

The wet market may provide a more varied ordure spread for the denizens.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:53 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

The wet market may provide a more varied ordure spread for the denizens.

holy crap, now i gotta look up ordure?

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

Possibly one is in a natural habitat and the other isn’t. Mix in people and you have a problem. Actually habitat disruption has contributed to infectious diseases.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... .2018.0403

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:53 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

The wet market may provide a more varied ordure spread for the denizens.

holy crap, now i gotta look up ordure?

I think he is referring to hors d'oeuvres, which most people have no idea how to spell (and even though long ago I had multiple years of French, I still had to look it up to be sure...).

https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydr ... 00816.html

we should look into this therapeutically.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:44 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:53 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

The wet market may provide a more varied ordure spread for the denizens.

holy crap, now i gotta look up ordure?

I think he is referring to hors d'oeuvres, which most people have no idea how to spell (and even though long ago I had multiple years of French, I still had to look it up to be sure...).

thanks, but maybe no way he missed by that much and that kind of mileage and linguistic (gb to france) divergence?

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:44 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:53 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

The wet market may provide a more varied ordure spread for the denizens.

holy crap, now i gotta look up ordure?

I think he is referring to hors d'oeuvres, which most people have no idea how to spell (and even though long ago I had multiple years of French, I still had to look it up to be sure...).

more like a clever wink wink play on the word sound...ordure means excrement so was quite correctly used, yet sounds like hors d'oevres...a spread...of excrement...more varied...

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:25 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:44 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:53 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

The wet market may provide a more varied ordure spread for the denizens.

holy crap, now i gotta look up ordure?

I think he is referring to hors d'oeuvres, which most people have no idea how to spell (and even though long ago I had multiple years of French, I still had to look it up to be sure...).

thanks, but maybe no way he missed by that much and that kind of mileage and linguistic (gb to france) divergence?

Somebody missed all right.

It is unlikely that the animals in a wet market would naturally be exposed to such a variety of dung as there are probably few natural settings where all are co-located. Comprende?

P.S. Post-1066, there was a profound French influence in GB.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:42 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:44 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:53 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

The wet market may provide a more varied ordure spread for the denizens.

holy crap, now i gotta look up ordure?

I think he is referring to hors d'oeuvres, which most people have no idea how to spell (and even though long ago I had multiple years of French, I still had to look it up to be sure...).

more like a clever wink wink play on the word sound...ordure means excrement so was quite correctly used, yet sounds like hors d'oevres...a spread...of excrement...more varied...

ok. nice. i wasn't doing homework on this one.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:43 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:25 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:44 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:53 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 pm this is all riveting. i have a question for those informed.

what's the difference between an animal eating feces in the wild vs. however things are passing in a wet market?

The wet market may provide a more varied ordure spread for the denizens.

holy crap, now i gotta look up ordure?

I think he is referring to hors d'oeuvres, which most people have no idea how to spell (and even though long ago I had multiple years of French, I still had to look it up to be sure...).

thanks, but maybe no way he missed by that much and that kind of mileage and linguistic (gb to france) divergence?

Somebody missed all right.

It is unlikely that the animals in a wet market would naturally be exposed to such a variety of dung as there are probably few natural settings where all are co-located. Comprende?

P.S. Post-1066, there was a profound French influence in GB.

i don't comprende? so what's the dummy version?

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Vaccinations are readily available for all Americans who want them.
For hesitaters, doubters, or those with trust issues, use it it or lose it.
Time to start shipping unused doses overseas, before they expire.

I might have missed someone posting this, but a good discussion on the issues of the origins of the pandemic virus:

https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-762/