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PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:06 pm Haven’t they read their Adam Smith? How are they going to counteract the inexorable power of the “invisible hand” propelling these people towards the allure and glamour ( meant in the original sense of the word) of the “American Dream” (as defined by George Carlin)?

‘and dangerous measures migrants are taking, even as governments in both Mexico and the United States attempt to stop the flow northward.

The U.S. government has in recent years implemented a series of policies taking a harsher approach to deterring migrants. Officials in the Biden administration have repeatedly and explicitly told them not to come.

“I am saddened to see the tragic loss of life and injuries of migrants traveling in Chiapas,” said U.S. ambassador Ken Salazar on Twitter on Thursday night. “Human smugglers disregard human life for their own profit. Please don’t risk your lives to migrate irregularly.”‘

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/10/worl ... crash.html

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:45 pm Immigrants have historically always made this country better.
An infusion of work ethic, new perspectives and optimism is what makes America so awesome.

When Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) announced in March last year that he would be sending hundreds of Texas National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border, he spurred a wave of posturing from Republican governors over “securing” the border. Following Texas’ lead, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sent Florida state law enforcement officers and National Guard troops to Texas. South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem sent her state’s troops as well — funded by a Tennessee auto scrap billionaire.

State police deployed in conjunction with the troops have stuffed Texas jails full of thousands of migrants and asylum seekers facing misdemeanor trespassing charges.

Over time, though, the media attention faded. The politics grew less potent. But Texas’ troops are still there. And things are getting bleak. Here are five points on the current situation with Abbott’s “Operation Lonestar.”

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:09 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:11 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:54 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:09 pm ...now MDLF76 is spinning that we may have missed the phantom whipping of Haitian migrants, even though they were not captured on video.

The entire flap was based on the video images, which were willfully misinterpreted & misrepresented.

No Dems were concerned about the debacle in Del Rio until they generated a way to play the race card.

Meanwhile, Kismet can't grasp the concept that the Haitian diaspora in S America is capitalizing on the humanitarian situation in Haiti due to the earthquake there, to choose this opportunity to exploit Biden's open border non-enforcement policy. They picked a weak spot in our border defense to exploit. The next surge may target McAllen. The smugglers have a stretegy, we do not.

Yes, we have a very limited set of pictures and some snippets of video...I haven't seen any extended amounts that represent the whole time they were corralling the migrants from horseback, have you?

So, before we say people are lying, let's admit we really don't know. Indeed, can't know.

That said, I do agree that what we see on tape could be explained by general corralling technique, not actually striking anyone...same with cattle, you don't need to hit them to move them; btw, the horse movement is primarily through legs, not whistling rope; there's a certain amount of the Fox guy that was actually true, but also a heavy load of BS...it's intimidating for sure...and there's also pictures of migrants being grabbed and thrown....the guy on Fox wasn't there, so he too really doesn't know how far it went.

I'm generally sympathetic with the agents, but yes, it absolutely was a very bad look, white men on horseback intimidating and corralling black people. Yup, can't ignore the bad imagery.

But no, this humanitarian crisis was being heavily reported and reacted to on mainstream media, including with politicians, prior to the horseback fiasco. But you're right, the horseback stuff got a whole lot of attention.

and no, you don't know, and I don't know what the precipitating element was of this movement other than giving up on Haiti. This notion that there's been some sea change in border access policy that suddenly made it make sense to rush the border just doesn't hold up...how come others aren't rushing...yes, there's been more overall, a serious issue, but it's total BS that there are open borders. Just not buying it.

It's the extreme partisan BS that makes you not credible, Salty.
We get it, seen it from you over and over again.

Has anyone on the scene reported that they saw a CBP horseman strike a migrant with a rein ?
Any photo or video evidence ? The photog said he never saw that.
What's Biden's basis for saying they were "strapped".

Do you think the CBP horsemen were acting on their own ? Who do they work for ?
Are mounted police supposed to be used for crowd control only when containing white people,
or should just black or brown horsemen be used, depending on the color of who is being contained ?

Biden has lost control of our southern border. He's making a pretense of enforcing our immigration laws.
It's only this uproar from his black supporters that's forcing him to confront the humanitarian disaster he has enabled.
It's your extreme partisan reflexive spin, in the face of facts, that makes you not credible.

Ahhh, you forget, I'm not at all partisan, much to the chagrin of my fellow Republicans on here.

I haven't seen anyone actually hit by the reins, but just because we haven't seen it doesn't mean it didn't happen at all...we simply don't know. You don't and I don't. If Biden, too, doesn't have clear info on that, then he shouldn't claim it happened...but the point is not whether or how many times people were struck that way, the intimidation was very real. If I had been a migrant from that perspective, I certainly would have perceived that threat...and we do see the horsemen grabbing and throwing migrants from horseback, so we know it was physical.

I didn't see any horsemen ride into the Jan 6 mob to force them back...did you?
Nope, just seeing it with black migrants...and the imagery is really, really bad.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:02 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:09 am

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:11 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:54 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:09 pm ...now MDLF76 is spinning that we may have missed the phantom whipping of Haitian migrants, even though they were not captured on video.

The entire flap was based on the video images, which were willfully misinterpreted & misrepresented.

No Dems were concerned about the debacle in Del Rio until they generated a way to play the race card.

Meanwhile, Kismet can't grasp the concept that the Haitian diaspora in S America is capitalizing on the humanitarian situation in Haiti due to the earthquake there, to choose this opportunity to exploit Biden's open border non-enforcement policy. They picked a weak spot in our border defense to exploit. The next surge may target McAllen. The smugglers have a stretegy, we do not.

Yes, we have a very limited set of pictures and some snippets of video...I haven't seen any extended amounts that represent the whole time they were corralling the migrants from horseback, have you?

So, before we say people are lying, let's admit we really don't know. Indeed, can't know.

That said, I do agree that what we see on tape could be explained by general corralling technique, not actually striking anyone...same with cattle, you don't need to hit them to move them; btw, the horse movement is primarily through legs, not whistling rope; there's a certain amount of the Fox guy that was actually true, but also a heavy load of BS...it's intimidating for sure...and there's also pictures of migrants being grabbed and thrown....the guy on Fox wasn't there, so he too really doesn't know how far it went.

I'm generally sympathetic with the agents, but yes, it absolutely was a very bad look, white men on horseback intimidating and corralling black people. Yup, can't ignore the bad imagery.

But no, this humanitarian crisis was being heavily reported and reacted to on mainstream media, including with politicians, prior to the horseback fiasco. But you're right, the horseback stuff got a whole lot of attention.

and no, you don't know, and I don't know what the precipitating element was of this movement other than giving up on Haiti. This notion that there's been some sea change in border access policy that suddenly made it make sense to rush the border just doesn't hold up...how come others aren't rushing...yes, there's been more overall, a serious issue, but it's total BS that there are open borders. Just not buying it.

It's the extreme partisan BS that makes you not credible, Salty.
We get it, seen it from you over and over again.

Has anyone on the scene reported that they saw a CBP horseman strike a migrant with a rein ?
Any photo or video evidence ? The photog said he never saw that.
What's Biden's basis for saying they were "strapped".

Do you think the CBP horsemen were acting on their own ? Who do they work for ?
Are mounted police supposed to be used for crowd control only when containing white people,
or should just black or brown horsemen be used, depending on the color of who is being contained ?

Biden has lost control of our southern border. He's making a pretense of enforcing our immigration laws.
It's only this uproar from his black supporters that's forcing him to confront the humanitarian disaster he has enabled.
It's your extreme partisan reflexive spin, in the face of facts, that makes you not credible.

Ahhh, you forget, I'm not at all partisan, much to the chagrin of my fellow Republicans on here.

I haven't seen anyone actually hit by the reins, but just because we haven't seen it doesn't mean it didn't happen at all...we simply don't know. You don't and I don't. If Biden, too, doesn't have clear info on that, then he shouldn't claim it happened...but the point is not whether or how many times people were struck that way, the intimidation was very real. If I had been a migrant from that perspective, I certainly would have perceived that threat...and we do see the horsemen grabbing and throwing migrants from horseback, so we know it was physical.

I didn't see any horsemen ride into the Jan 6 mob to force them back...did you?
Nope, just seeing it with black migrants...and the imagery is really, really bad.

...it only took 7 mos to find that no one saw anyone whipped, ...but it still might have happened.

Gov. Greg Abbott truck inspections turned up zero drugs, migrants but cost Texas $4.2 billion
The costly policy, which experts estimate cost hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of a single week, did not result in any migrant detentions or illegal substance seizures.

Gov. Greg Abbott increasing inspections of commercial trucks entering from Mexico in the hopes of staunching illegal smuggling activity resulted in zero migrants detentions or illegal drug seizures, despite allegedly costing the Lone Star State billions of dollars.

Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller stated in an email to supporters this week that the enhanced truck inspections cost Texas consumers and businesses an estimated $4.3 billion "despite not catching a single illegal alien or confiscating a single gram of illegal drugs."

"However, Governor Abbott successfully persuaded Mexico states to enhance security on their side of the border," Miller added. "Both of these things are true at the same time."

The Texas Tribune reports that over an eight-day period beginning on April 8, troopers conducted more than 1,400 truck inspections. Despite no drugs being discovered, troopers managed to take 850 trucks off the road for various equipment violations, including under-inflated tires, broken turn signals and oil leaks.

The inspections also created a backlog of 18-wheelers on both sides of the border, with some truckers reporting waiting more than 30 hours for a process that typically takes three hours, according to the Dallas Morning News. The delays resulted in $240 million in spoiled produce and empty shelves at local markets.

Miller's estimate roughly coincides with findings released by The Perryman Group, a Waco-based economic analysis firm, which estimates the delays cost the state $4.2 billion in gross domestic product and the U.S. nearly $9 billion in GDP.

Abbott ordered the enhanced truck inspections in response to President Joe Biden ending Title 42, a border policy that allowed federal agents to quickly deport migrants attempting to enter the country citing COVID-19 restrictions. Last week, the Republican leader called off the inspection initiative after signing agreements with leaders of four Mexican states that border Texas who said they would increase border security measures.

Despite the economic impacts of shutting down traffic at the border, Abbott isn't ruling out reinstating the policy. Asked about the impacts during a roundtable with law enforcement in San Antonio Thursday, Abbott responded, "Obviously there are concerns about the economy but there are even larger concerns about the unabated immigration that the Biden administration is promoting."

https://www.lmtonline.com/politics/arti ... 119380.php
The Texas Tribune reports that over an eight-day period beginning on April 8, troopers conducted more than 1,400 truck inspections. Despite no drugs being discovered, troopers managed to take 850 trucks off the road for various equipment violations, including under-inflated tires, broken turn signals and oil leaks.

The inspections also created a backlog of 18-wheelers on both sides of the border, with some truckers reporting waiting more than 30 hours for a process that typically takes three hours, according to the Dallas Morning News. The delays resulted in $240 million in spoiled produce and empty shelves at local markets.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:45 pm The Idaho Story: The dairyman and the immigrant.