Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:22 am
thanks, bart. i feel good about it. monopoly was probably my favorite board game, so this is really special for me.
let's gooo!!!
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Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:36 am
let's gooo!!!
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:15 pm
vaccinated good to go indoors and out. large crowds, small. can't link right now for some reason.
still need masks on planes, healthcare, buses.
have your vaxx card handy?
still need masks on planes, healthcare, buses.
have your vaxx card handy?
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:06 pm
Vacc site available within 5 mi of every American's residence ! 
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 12:11 am
I dug it out of my dvr cache. Watched Biden's remarks, then her opening.
Nicole said at 4:12 pm -- " ...for every American now, there is a vacc site within 5 mi of their home "
Upon further review, I found that Biden said at 4:05 pm -- ..." We have 80,000 locations. 90% of you live within 5 mi of one of those locations".
Biden must have misspoke. Nicole would not mislead us.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:08 am
Apologies for pay wall... if interested, maybe someone would post the article?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/scie ... tists.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/scie ... tists.html
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:41 am
I don't have access to the Times right now, but here is the Post's version:tech37 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:08 am Apologies for pay wall... if interested, maybe someone would post the article?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/scie ... tists.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... pdates-us/
"Americans received welcome news on Thursday that the federal government was significantly relaxing its recommendations on mask use for vaccinated individuals, signaling the end of the coronavirus pandemic is in sight. But a group of 18 scientists from leading international research institutions is now calling for a “proper investigation” into the origins of the pandemic — and the possibility of a laboratory incident triggering the global health crisis.
In a letter published in the latest edition of the journal Science, the researchers say the findings of a joint investigation by the World Health Organization and China released in March are not sufficiently conclusive. That study, based on data collected by Chinese researchers, found that it was “extremely unlikely” that the virus leaked from a lab. But the 18 scientists say that the possibility must be taken seriously.
The origins of the coronavirus have been hotly contested, with the former Trump administration speculating without evidence that the virus leaked from a Chinese lab; China has also spread baseless claims that the U.S. Army created the virus."
Here is the letter in Science Magazine:
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1
"On 30 December 2019, the Program for Monitoring Emerging Diseases notified the world about a pneumonia of unknown cause in Wuhan, China (1). Since then, scientists have made remarkable progress in understanding the causative agent, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), its transmission, pathogenesis, and mitigation by vaccines, therapeutics, and non-pharmaceutical interventions. Yet more investigation is still needed to determine the origin of the pandemic. Theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable. Knowing how COVID-19 emerged is critical for informing global strategies to mitigate the risk of future outbreaks.
In May 2020, the World Health Assembly requested that the World Health Organization (WHO) director-general work closely with partners to determine the origins of SARS-CoV-2 (2). In November, the Terms of Reference for a China–WHO joint study were released (3). The information, data, and samples for the study's first phase were collected and summarized by the Chinese half of the team; the rest of the team built on this analysis. Although there were no findings in clear support of either a natural spillover or a lab accident, the team assessed a zoonotic spillover from an intermediate host as “likely to very likely,” and a laboratory incident as “extremely unlikely” [(4), p. 9]. Furthermore, the two theories were not given balanced consideration. Only 4 of the 313 pages of the report and its annexes addressed the possibility of a laboratory accident (4). Notably, WHO Director-General Tedros Ghebreyesus commented that the report's consideration of evidence supporting a laboratory accident was insufficient and offered to provide additional resources to fully evaluate the possibility (5).
As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts."
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:56 am
Thanks sc.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:41 amI don't have access to the Times right now, but here is the Post's version:tech37 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:08 am Apologies for pay wall... if interested, maybe someone would post the article?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/scie ... tists.html
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:08 am
Yes, though we were in Florida...and no, for the first two months of availability, the 65+ year olds couldn't register ahead and have any confidence they'd get a call back...also couldn't register at the Cleveland Clinic health system, though they already had her info...later on was different. So, you had 80+ year olds trying to get in over and over and over again...old salt wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 9:38 pm Did you check to see if you could register (& wait) with your county health dept ?
We could also register (& wait) with the large commercial heath care provider (Luminis) who runs the hospital in our county.
I think you could also register with MedStar in counties where they had hospitals.
Our county health dept came through first, so we unsubscribed with the others.
Those sites received the largest allocation of doses, by far.
The commercial pharmacies received much smaller allocations, so trying to sched an appt with them was an exercise in frustration, if you were not willing to wait & expected an immediate confirmation.
This was our county sign up portal :
https://aacounty.org/covidvax
It went active on Jan 21 & was linked in various county & elected officials covid update newsletter emails.
I first saw it on our county library newsletter email.
Next, on Jan 24, on our county health dept website, I found this link to register with Luminis.
https://living.aahs.org/covid-19-vaccine-information/
Also, our County Exec posted weekly covid updates with vacc info & registration links.
which I first discovered on Feb 27.
https://www.aacounty.org/coronavirus/we ... -02-27.pdf
It was a rat race to try to push in the door each time the system 'opened' for appt's...dumb.
My point was that pre-registration could have been done universally, not the spotty way it was done. Not only saving folks time and motion, but also enabling a tracking of where supplies were needed to meet priorities.
A couple of months later and registration became smarter, and now it's on a walk-in basis.
My critique (again not the point of my original post) is that pre-registration and tracking was the obvious right path as soon as they knew they were going to be doing a massive vaccination effort in which speed to protecting the most vulnerable and then herd immunity would be crucial. They knew this last spring...
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:24 am
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:26 am
A close friend was feeling under the weather. Went to get tested. She was vaccinated the first week of April. She had zero antibodies. Drs were flummoxed. It ended up being a sinus infection.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:33 am
kram... do you know what brand of vax?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:26 am A close friend was feeling under the weather. Went to get tested. She was vaccinated the first week of April. She had zero antibodies. Drs were flummoxed. It ended up being a sinus infection.
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:42 am
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:42 am
Modernatech37 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:33 amkram... do you know what brand of vax?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:26 am A close friend was feeling under the weather. Went to get tested. She was vaccinated the first week of April. She had zero antibodies. Drs were flummoxed. It ended up being a sinus infection.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:26 am
... so "scientifically" nothing has changed since the WHO report. No more evidence one way or the other. The only thing that I see that has changed, is "politically", a group of scientists have amplified a point the WHO director made VERBALLY at the time of the release of the WHO report (which was reported by print media at the time of the release of the WHO report).seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:41 amI don't have access to the Times right now, but here is the Post's version:tech37 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:08 am Apologies for pay wall... if interested, maybe someone would post the article?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/scie ... tists.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... pdates-us/
"Americans received welcome news on Thursday that the federal government was significantly relaxing its recommendations on mask use for vaccinated individuals, signaling the end of the coronavirus pandemic is in sight. But a group of 18 scientists from leading international research institutions is now calling for a “proper investigation” into the origins of the pandemic — and the possibility of a laboratory incident triggering the global health crisis.
In a letter published in the latest edition of the journal Science, the researchers say the findings of a joint investigation by the World Health Organization and China released in March are not sufficiently conclusive. That study, based on data collected by Chinese researchers, found that it was “extremely unlikely” that the virus leaked from a lab. But the 18 scientists say that the possibility must be taken seriously.
The origins of the coronavirus have been hotly contested, with the former Trump administration speculating without evidence that the virus leaked from a Chinese lab; China has also spread baseless claims that the U.S. Army created the virus."
Here is the letter in Science Magazine:
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1
"On 30 December 2019, the Program for Monitoring Emerging Diseases notified the world about a pneumonia of unknown cause in Wuhan, China (1). Since then, scientists have made remarkable progress in understanding the causative agent, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), its transmission, pathogenesis, and mitigation by vaccines, therapeutics, and non-pharmaceutical interventions. Yet more investigation is still needed to determine the origin of the pandemic. Theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable. Knowing how COVID-19 emerged is critical for informing global strategies to mitigate the risk of future outbreaks.
In May 2020, the World Health Assembly requested that the World Health Organization (WHO) director-general work closely with partners to determine the origins of SARS-CoV-2 (2). In November, the Terms of Reference for a China–WHO joint study were released (3). The information, data, and samples for the study's first phase were collected and summarized by the Chinese half of the team; the rest of the team built on this analysis. Although there were no findings in clear support of either a natural spillover or a lab accident, the team assessed a zoonotic spillover from an intermediate host as “likely to very likely,” and a laboratory incident as “extremely unlikely” [(4), p. 9]. Furthermore, the two theories were not given balanced consideration. Only 4 of the 313 pages of the report and its annexes addressed the possibility of a laboratory accident (4). Notably, WHO Director-General Tedros Ghebreyesus commented that the report's consideration of evidence supporting a laboratory accident was insufficient and offered to provide additional resources to fully evaluate the possibility (5).
As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts."
It is much clearer when reputable media report the story, than a politically motivated rage like the Washington Examiner.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:41 am
`All Humans will keep indoors - All Humans will Self Isolate by order of the Daleks`
Dalek gives orders to protect humans from covid.
Dalek gives orders to protect humans from covid.