The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

[Typical Lax Dad]

She's just wearing an accessory.
https://www.amazon.com/Wearable-Vibrati ... 062&sr=8-4

You an old dirty dog!!

[Farfromgeneva]

Right up there with Nazis: https://www.cnn.com/shorts/cnn-shorts

Liz? I agree.

You are better at that social media stuff than I am….you got that going for you… Reels must not last that long….these last longer…

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... t-movement

Meanwhile....Babylon Bee, kinda nails it here : https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1731 ... 46953?s=20

You don't want to hear my response to this, because I'm 100% sure you won't find it funny.

So I'll just say that American Christians shouldn't throw stones here, and leave it at that.

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php/?photo ... 5566882442

[DMac]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

[MDlaxfan76]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

I read the article and it presented no response from the State nor any explanation of their actual position.

But, from what can be gleaned from the article, the "Christian school" decided it didn't want to follow the State's rules on competition. It doesn't tell us exactly what those rules are, just that the school forfeited a game because they didn't want to have their girls compete in a game in which a biological male identifying as girl was also competing. They exercised their right to not compete, based on their religious beliefs. Fair enough, don't have to compete.

But the implications for that decision (according to the article) is a loss of public funding and a loss of opportunities to compete in other state sponsored leagues and competitions.

The school has the full right to make whatever decision they want as a private school, they just can't participate in state run competitions and they give up state funding.

[ohmilax34]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

I read the article and it presented no response from the State nor any explanation of their actual position.

But, from what can be gleaned from the article, the "Christian school" decided it didn't want to follow the State's rules on competition. It doesn't tell us exactly what those rules are, just that the school forfeited a game because they didn't want to have their girls compete in a game in which a biological male identifying as girl was also competing. They exercised their right to not compete, based on their religious beliefs. Fair enough, don't have to compete.

But the implications for that decision (according to the article) is a loss of public funding and a loss of opportunities to compete in other state sponsored leagues and competitions.

The school has the full right to make whatever decision they want as a private school, they just can't participate in state run competitions and they give up state funding.

This quote is from the state athletic organization, right?

“Specifically, the school’s actions do not meet the expectations of the VPA’s 1st and 2nd policy, Commitment to Racial, Gender-Fair, and Disability Awareness and Policy of Gender Identity, respectively. Thus, Mid-Vermont Christian school is ineligible to participate in VPA activities going forward,” ruled the athletic organization.

[DMac]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

1. Yup
2. I don't know about compete but from what we get I don't see it as inaccurate.
I need to know when the transition was begun before determining whether this is fair or not in my mind.

[ohmilax34]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

1. Yup
2. I don't know about compete but from what we get I don't see it as inaccurate.
I need to know when the transition was begun before determining whether this is fair or not in my mind.

IF the transition began. This is a child, presumably less than 18 years old. No mention of transition in the article, just that it's a trans kid.

[MDlaxfan76]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

I read the article and it presented no response from the State nor any explanation of their actual position.

But, from what can be gleaned from the article, the "Christian school" decided it didn't want to follow the State's rules on competition. It doesn't tell us exactly what those rules are, just that the school forfeited a game because they didn't want to have their girls compete in a game in which a biological male identifying as girl was also competing. They exercised their right to not compete, based on their religious beliefs. Fair enough, don't have to compete.

But the implications for that decision (according to the article) is a loss of public funding and a loss of opportunities to compete in other state sponsored leagues and competitions.

The school has the full right to make whatever decision they want as a private school, they just can't participate in state run competitions and they give up state funding.

This quote is from the state athletic organization, right?

“Specifically, the school’s actions do not meet the expectations of the VPA’s 1st and 2nd policy, Commitment to Racial, Gender-Fair, and Disability Awareness and Policy of Gender Identity, respectively. Thus, Mid-Vermont Christian school is ineligible to participate in VPA activities going forward,” ruled the athletic organization.

Yes, according to the lawsuit that was their statement. But all quotes appear to be from the lawsuit. That appears to be their quote from the letter they received.

I did find a statement from the Athletic Association, but not through that article. It includes a link to the original letter and a link to the policy.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vG5eyC ... 8XDO-/view

[MDlaxfan76]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

1. Yup
2. I don't know about compete but from what we get I don't see it as inaccurate.
I need to know when the transition was begun before determining whether this is fair or not in my mind.

IF the transition began. This is a child, presumably less than 18 years old. No mention of transition in the article, just that it's a trans kid.

The link I provided has Vermont's actual policy linked.

This was a basketball player.

Here's the policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_DM ... yazdvuarq9

[MDlaxfan76]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

1. Yup
2. I don't know about compete but from what we get I don't see it as inaccurate.
I need to know when the transition was begun before determining whether this is fair or not in my mind.

Seems to me that the decision is 'fair' insofar as it conforms to the rules. The school is opting out of following the rules.

But should that be the rule is another matter.

[ohmilax34]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

1. Yup
2. I don't know about compete but from what we get I don't see it as inaccurate.
I need to know when the transition was begun before determining whether this is fair or not in my mind.

According to the rules MD posted, it looks like the only step in a transition is to identify as the other gender.

[Typical Lax Dad]

This is strange. I have no idea how testosterone impacts athletic performance.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/ ... gba-doping

[ohmilax34]

This is strange. I have no idea how testosterone impacts athletic performance.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/ ... gba-doping

This is sad. He was one of the brightest soccer stars in the world. The extortion bit is bizarre.

[Typical Lax Dad]

This is strange. I have no idea how testosterone impacts athletic performance.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/ ... gba-doping

This is sad. He was one of the brightest soccer stars in the world. The extortion bit is bizarre.

He was an exceptional talent. I loved watching him play. His ball delivery was supreme.

[ohmilax34]

This is strange. I have no idea how testosterone impacts athletic performance.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/ ... gba-doping

This is sad. He was one of the brightest soccer stars in the world. The extortion bit is bizarre.

He was an exceptional talent. I loved watching him play. His ball delivery was supreme.

For sure. He was so unique. I never really got to see Patrick Vieira, but I imagine they had similar styles.

[MDlaxfan76]

Simply put, the State believes sex is mutable and biological differences do not matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chris ... 26b7&ei=14

Just to be clear, that's a quote from the plaintiff's lawsuit, not the State of Vermont. Right?

Do you accept the plaintiff's characterization as complete and accurate?

1. Yup
2. I don't know about compete but from what we get I don't see it as inaccurate.
I need to know when the transition was begun before determining whether this is fair or not in my mind.

According to the rules MD posted, it looks like the only step in a transition is to identify as the other gender.

Could be. Clearly Vermont has a liberal point of view when it comes to high school sports, favoring allowing kids to play whatever they wish as long as it's in the gender identity they truly occupy in the rest of their life. I don't see any actual danger in any girl's sports that would happen, all the other issues about 'fairness' being quite a separate matter.

Vermont errs to the side of letting kids play...

[NattyBohChamps04]

These people are insane... and it's spreading.

[youthathletics]

Gross

[Seacoaster(1)]

Gross

Yes, gross; and this is the America we desensitized into after 2016. Hateful, divisive, nasty and wrong.

[MDlaxfan76]

absolutely nuts. Been watching a professional champion parent/kid tournament for the past few days, very fun. She caddied for dad and her brother Charlie had another young man...gorgeous girl. I thought she was at least few years older.

One pairing was a mother and son. Excellent golf!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAE

This is crossover bigotry, two bigotries for the price of one. Haters gotta hate.

Mom and son (I think the youngest player): https://www.golfdigest.com/story/annika ... ampionship