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Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:39 am
by OuttaNowhereWregget
seacoaster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:42 am Here's what you said: "I’m inclined to agree with you on Reese but one never knows. The game may be passing her by."

What's reasonable is that this comment might engender a response from ardent Maryland fans. Reese last won a championship in 2019, not in the dark ages or any meaningful lapse of time. In other words, she won the last championship held before BC defeated Syracuse last year. The evidence of "the game passing her by" is somewhere between infinitesimal and zero. You make a dumb comment, you should just own it instead of the shrill silliness with which you populate the Boards (e.g., "Who said the game has passed Reese by? Who said Maryland was done?").

I'm not a Maryland fan, I don't call them "royalty" or any of that stuff. But a program or any sort of organization that graduates or loses key members, employees or players is bound to have a down year or two. Talk to me if CNR doesn't get back to Memorial Day in five years.
I disagree. I didn’t use a question mark, but my use of the word “may” is key. It welcomes discussion/debate which may as well have been initiated with a question.

Five years—that’s a concrete answer. Ultimately that’s all I’m looking for—a little survey of opinions about Reese and the Terps. They are intriguing to me because they are royalty in the lacrosse world, just like the Yankees in baseball and the Lakers in basketball.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:55 am
by OuttaNowhereWregget
hmmm wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:01 am Just to clarify you didn't ask a question. You made a declarative statement "The game may be passing her by." That's not a question. You then went on to say that she hasn't lost her fastball or is in the process of losing it "but she may be in the early stages." Again, this is not a question it is a declarative statement. In fact there is not single question mark in your entire post. If you have an opinion you're certainly entitled to do so but stand up for it and own it. Otherwise it just seems like you're trolling MD fans.
You’re right that I didn’t use a question mark or frame the topic as a question—but that’s what it is for all intents and purposes. I intentionally and deliberately used the word “may” because I enjoy reading others opinions about Reese and Maryland. I enjoy discussing this great sport.

What are your thoughts on Reese and the Terps? How many seasons like the last two would you observe before you started to question Reese’s ability to coach at a championship level?

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by Bart
seacoaster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:42 am
I'm not a Maryland fan, I don't call them "royalty" or any of that stuff. But a program or any sort of organization that graduates or loses key members, employees or players is bound to have a down year or two. Talk to me if CNR doesn't get back to Memorial Day in five years.
I will start by saying that winning is important. Why keep score if winning was not important but that being said.....is the bolded really going to be the measure of whether or not the game has passed by a coach? What ever that means.

Chris Sailer has not been back to the final four for several years. I've watched the Tigers (I know that dreaded no use eye test) and there is absolutely no way I would say the game has passed her by.

Shelly Klaes won in 2018 does that mean the train is hurtling toward her and if she does not get back to Memorial day in the next 3 years the game has past her by? Silly imo.

What about Coach Corbett or Coach Adams both of which I think are good coaches ..........has the lacrosse train passed them by as well? Heck have they even gotten on the train according to the little box these coaches are being placed into?

KAH missed the train for 5 years until last year....did the sport pass her by so far that it actually caught up to her again?

It all seems like the infantile game of building people up just to tear them down at a later day. Silly imo.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:51 pm
by hmmm
Bart wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 pm
seacoaster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:42 am
I'm not a Maryland fan, I don't call them "royalty" or any of that stuff. But a program or any sort of organization that graduates or loses key members, employees or players is bound to have a down year or two. Talk to me if CNR doesn't get back to Memorial Day in five years.
I will start by saying that winning is important. Why keep score if winning was not important but that being said.....is the bolded really going to be the measure of whether or not the game has passed by a coach? What ever that means.

Chris Sailer has not been back to the final four for several years. I've watched the Tigers (I know that dreaded no use eye test) and there is absolutely no way I would say the game has passed her by.

Shelly Klaes won in 2018 does that mean the train is hurtling toward her and if she does not get back to Memorial day in the next 3 years the game has past her by? Silly imo.

What about Coach Corbett or Coach Adams both of which I think are good coaches ..........has the lacrosse train passed them by as well? Heck have they even gotten on the train according to the little box these coaches are being placed into?

KAH missed the train for 5 years until last year....did the sport pass her by so far that it actually caught up to her again?

It all seems like the infantile game of building people up just to tear them down at a later day. Silly imo.
Yes, it's a pretty silly discussion. Has the game passed Cindy Timchal by since she went from MD to Navy? Of course not. Measuring a women's lacrosse coach's ability based on final four appearances makes no sense.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:30 pm
by OuttaNowhereWregget
hmmm wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:51 pm
Bart wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 pm
seacoaster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:42 am
I'm not a Maryland fan, I don't call them "royalty" or any of that stuff. But a program or any sort of organization that graduates or loses key members, employees or players is bound to have a down year or two. Talk to me if CNR doesn't get back to Memorial Day in five years.
I will start by saying that winning is important. Why keep score if winning was not important but that being said.....is the bolded really going to be the measure of whether or not the game has passed by a coach? What ever that means.

Chris Sailer has not been back to the final four for several years. I've watched the Tigers (I know that dreaded no use eye test) and there is absolutely no way I would say the game has passed her by.

Shelly Klaes won in 2018 does that mean the train is hurtling toward her and if she does not get back to Memorial day in the next 3 years the game has past her by? Silly imo.

What about Coach Corbett or Coach Adams both of which I think are good coaches ..........has the lacrosse train passed them by as well? Heck have they even gotten on the train according to the little box these coaches are being placed into?

KAH missed the train for 5 years until last year....did the sport pass her by so far that it actually caught up to her again?

It all seems like the infantile game of building people up just to tear them down at a later day. Silly imo.
Yes, it's a pretty silly discussion. Has the game passed Cindy Timchal by since she went from MD to Navy? Of course not. Measuring a women's lacrosse coach's ability based on final four appearances makes no sense.
That’s a good distinction, Bart. I would say pondering Reese and the Terps may be better categorized as coaches who once regularly challenged for the NCAA title and are no longer considered a real threat annually—like UVA coach Julie Myers, or Princeton’s Chris Sailer for instance. Too little time has elapsed to put Reese in that category obviously.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:59 pm
by Dr. Tact
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:25 pm All games at Ridley. Not too shabby for Greyhounds fans...

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Headed to balmer on Sunday. Anyone else going to be there?

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:42 pm
by hmmm
Dr. Tact wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:59 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:25 pm All games at Ridley. Not too shabby for Greyhounds fans...

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Headed to balmer on Sunday. Anyone else going to be there?
I'll be there cheering on the daughter.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:44 pm
by Bart
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:30 pm
hmmm wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:51 pm
Bart wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 pm
seacoaster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:42 am
I'm not a Maryland fan, I don't call them "royalty" or any of that stuff. But a program or any sort of organization that graduates or loses key members, employees or players is bound to have a down year or two. Talk to me if CNR doesn't get back to Memorial Day in five years.
I will start by saying that winning is important. Why keep score if winning was not important but that being said.....is the bolded really going to be the measure of whether or not the game has passed by a coach? What ever that means.

Chris Sailer has not been back to the final four for several years. I've watched the Tigers (I know that dreaded no use eye test) and there is absolutely no way I would say the game has passed her by.

Shelly Klaes won in 2018 does that mean the train is hurtling toward her and if she does not get back to Memorial day in the next 3 years the game has past her by? Silly imo.

What about Coach Corbett or Coach Adams both of which I think are good coaches ..........has the lacrosse train passed them by as well? Heck have they even gotten on the train according to the little box these coaches are being placed into?

KAH missed the train for 5 years until last year....did the sport pass her by so far that it actually caught up to her again?

It all seems like the infantile game of building people up just to tear them down at a later day. Silly imo.
Yes, it's a pretty silly discussion. Has the game passed Cindy Timchal by since she went from MD to Navy? Of course not. Measuring a women's lacrosse coach's ability based on final four appearances makes no sense.
That’s a good distinction, Bart. I would say pondering Reese and the Terps may be better categorized as coaches who once regularly challenged for the NCAA title and are no longer considered a real threat annually—like UVA coach Julie Myers, or Princeton’s Chris Sailer for instance. Too little time has elapsed to put Reese in that category obviously.
That is what you got out of my post? Ok then…… :shock:

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:52 pm
by livelovelax
UVA 16 - JMU 15 tonight. They will probably play again in the spring so it should be another good game in the Commonwealth. The Dukes played everybody, not sure about the Cavaliers.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:49 am
by OuttaNowhereWregget
Bart wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:44 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:30 pm
hmmm wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:51 pm
Bart wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 pm
seacoaster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:42 am
I'm not a Maryland fan, I don't call them "royalty" or any of that stuff. But a program or any sort of organization that graduates or loses key members, employees or players is bound to have a down year or two. Talk to me if CNR doesn't get back to Memorial Day in five years.
I will start by saying that winning is important. Why keep score if winning was not important but that being said.....is the bolded really going to be the measure of whether or not the game has passed by a coach? What ever that means.

Chris Sailer has not been back to the final four for several years. I've watched the Tigers (I know that dreaded no use eye test) and there is absolutely no way I would say the game has passed her by.

Shelly Klaes won in 2018 does that mean the train is hurtling toward her and if she does not get back to Memorial day in the next 3 years the game has past her by? Silly imo.

What about Coach Corbett or Coach Adams both of which I think are good coaches ..........has the lacrosse train passed them by as well? Heck have they even gotten on the train according to the little box these coaches are being placed into?

KAH missed the train for 5 years until last year....did the sport pass her by so far that it actually caught up to her again?

It all seems like the infantile game of building people up just to tear them down at a later day. Silly imo.
Yes, it's a pretty silly discussion. Has the game passed Cindy Timchal by since she went from MD to Navy? Of course not. Measuring a women's lacrosse coach's ability based on final four appearances makes no sense.
That’s a good distinction, Bart. I would say pondering Reese and the Terps may be better categorized as coaches who once regularly challenged for the NCAA title and are no longer considered a real threat annually—like UVA coach Julie Myers, or Princeton’s Chris Sailer for instance. Too little time has elapsed to put Reese in that category obviously.
That is what you got out of my post? Ok then…… :shock:
I’m open to learn. What else might I go deeper in considering from what you wrote?

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:53 am
by OuttaNowhereWregget
All in the same place! Wow. Lacrossapalooza!

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Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:15 pm
by LarryGamLax
livelovelax wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:52 pm UVA 16 - JMU 15 tonight. They will probably play again in the spring so it should be another good game in the Commonwealth. The Dukes played everybody, not sure about the Cavaliers.

Would you say the talent pool is equal on the teams or does one have an advantage? Can you tell that from what you watched?

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:18 pm
by wlaxphan20
livelovelax wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:52 pm UVA 16 - JMU 15 tonight. They will probably play again in the spring so it should be another good game in the Commonwealth. The Dukes played everybody, not sure about the Cavaliers.
Darn, I was going to ask how UVA's freshmen class looked.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:34 pm
by laxer12
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:53 am All in the same place! Wow. Lacrossapalooza!

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I thought this was Taylor Cummings at first...

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:44 pm
by wlaxphan20
laxer12 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:34 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:53 am All in the same place! Wow. Lacrossapalooza!

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I thought this was Taylor Cummings at first...
The likeness, facial expression, and bun are all there. I see it too. Even the UA goggles.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:17 pm
by Dr. Tact
laxer12 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:34 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:53 am All in the same place! Wow. Lacrossapalooza!

Image
I thought this was Taylor Cummings at first...
Nope Jillian Wilson...

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:58 pm
by Lax247
Dr. Tact wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:17 pm
laxer12 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:34 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:53 am All in the same place! Wow. Lacrossapalooza!

Image
I thought this was Taylor Cummings at first...
Nope Jillian Wilson...
So....how were the games? Florida? How was overall competition?

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:58 pm
by Lax247
Dr. Tact wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:17 pm
laxer12 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:34 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:53 am All in the same place! Wow. Lacrossapalooza!

Image
I thought this was Taylor Cummings at first...
Nope Jillian Wilson...
So....how were the games? Florida? How was overall competition?

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:07 am
by DMac
Bart wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:13 am Don't know about baseball, would rather have my nether regions waxed than have to watch that sport.
A gem on the diamond last night, Braves going to the WS.
Perhaps you were at Waxy Puhlls Nether Strippers and missed it,
just keeping you posted. Great game , lotta pressure. Baseball
is a fantastic game, and post season baseball is super fantastic.

Re: Fall Ball

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:36 am
by Dr. Tact
Lax247 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:58 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:17 pm
laxer12 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:34 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:53 am All in the same place! Wow. Lacrossapalooza!

Image
I thought this was Taylor Cummings at first...
Nope Jillian Wilson...
So....how were the games? Florida? How was overall competition?
I will have to let you know. They are today :D