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seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:39 am

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:01 am John Eastman may be the tip of Trump's J6 spear

Greg Jacob, Mike Pence's counsel, writes to Eastman while the siege is going on, and while Eastman is still insisting that the Electoral College Act can be end-runned, as follows:

I respect your heart here. I share your concerns about what Democrats will do once in power. I want election integrity fixed. But I have run down every legal trail placed before me to its conclusion, and I respectfully conclude that as a legal framework, it is a results oriented position that you would never support if attempted by the opposition, and essentially entirely made up.

And thanks to your bullchit, we are now under siege.

Quote from Greg Jacob (Pence attorney) to Eastman (the guy trying to claim executive privilege before the J6 Committee) ON January 6th.

Except for those pesky "crime-fraud exceptions" to the claims of executive privilege...very likely-looking that Eastman's claims will be denied.

We've been watching Trump skate from accountability for YEARS. Could it be that we might see an actual indictment of Donald Trump sometime in 2022?

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There is a big difference, it should be emphasized, between, on the one hand, setting aside the privilege based on the crime-fraud exception and, on the other hand, having the evidence necessary to authorize a prosecution of anyone, to say nothing of a former President. So there is some perhaps considerable distance to travel between what the January 6 Committee's briefing on the Eastman privilege claim and the indictment of the Leader of the GOP.

The D.C. newspaper’s reporters gained exclusive access to video footage shot by Danish filmmakers for a yet-unreleased documentary titled A Storm Foretold. Clips of the film were published to support the Post’s assertions that Stone played the role of puppeteer in the crucial weeks after Joe Biden’s victory over Donald Trump.

“We are relaunching Stop the Steal,” he told an associate by phone, after instructing them to gather news headlines that would cast doubt on the validity of the election.

The footage also showed how Stone was quick to walk away from the chaos when words inspired action and the coordinated political campaign of lies led to its inevitable conclusion: Thousands of violent Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol building. A dramatic video clip shows a disappointed Stone packing his bags at a hotel to leave Washington as rioters descended on the seat of Congress.

“Part of the plan,” the former top law enforcement officer in the US said, “was to send this group up to the Hill … to intimidate Congress.”

In describing January 6 that way, Barr better understands how the insurrection worked than so many TV lawyers. He described it as an attempt to corruptly convince Congress to do something illegal and, in asserting that sending the mob was part of the plan, describes it as pre-mediated obstruction. This is, by all appearances, the crime for which that DOJ is investigating the former President.

But then, having described the same crime, witness tampering and obstruction, achieved in partnership with the same militias, the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, as Barr minimized with Stone, Barr then suggests Trump hasn’t committed the crime of incitement.

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:37 am What do you THINK will happen when you pardon criminals like Roger Stone??

“Part of the plan,” the former top law enforcement officer in the US said, “was to send this group up to the Hill … to intimidate Congress.”

In describing January 6 that way, Barr better understands how the insurrection worked than so many TV lawyers. He described it as an attempt to corruptly convince Congress to do something illegal and, in asserting that sending the mob was part of the plan, describes it as pre-mediated obstruction. This is, by all appearances, the crime for which that DOJ is investigating the former President.

But then, having described the same crime, witness tampering and obstruction, achieved in partnership with the same militias, the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, as Barr minimized with Stone, Barr then suggests Trump hasn’t committed the crime of incitement.

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runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:40 am

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:37 am What do you THINK will happen when you pardon criminals like Roger Stone??

“Part of the plan,” the former top law enforcement officer in the US said, “was to send this group up to the Hill … to intimidate Congress.”

In describing January 6 that way, Barr better understands how the insurrection worked than so many TV lawyers. He described it as an attempt to corruptly convince Congress to do something illegal and, in asserting that sending the mob was part of the plan, describes it as pre-mediated obstruction. This is, by all appearances, the crime for which that DOJ is investigating the former President.

But then, having described the same crime, witness tampering and obstruction, achieved in partnership with the same militias, the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, as Barr minimized with Stone, Barr then suggests Trump hasn’t committed the crime of incitement.

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Mike Milken will be his "sponsor" for his membership into the "giving pledge" membership, he was pardoned too.

Which created more life altering crimes? Stone run a junk bond theft scam too....

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:04 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:40 am

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:37 am What do you THINK will happen when you pardon criminals like Roger Stone??

“Part of the plan,” the former top law enforcement officer in the US said, “was to send this group up to the Hill … to intimidate Congress.”

In describing January 6 that way, Barr better understands how the insurrection worked than so many TV lawyers. He described it as an attempt to corruptly convince Congress to do something illegal and, in asserting that sending the mob was part of the plan, describes it as pre-mediated obstruction. This is, by all appearances, the crime for which that DOJ is investigating the former President.

But then, having described the same crime, witness tampering and obstruction, achieved in partnership with the same militias, the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, as Barr minimized with Stone, Barr then suggests Trump hasn’t committed the crime of incitement.

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Mike Milken will be his "sponsor" for his membership into the "giving pledge" membership, he was pardoned too.

Which created more life altering crimes? Stone run a junk bond theft scam too....

yup criminals...you see any signs that Stone is remorseful? Atoning for his crimes? In the slightest?

I haven't.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:10 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:04 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:40 am

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:37 am What do you THINK will happen when you pardon criminals like Roger Stone??

“Part of the plan,” the former top law enforcement officer in the US said, “was to send this group up to the Hill … to intimidate Congress.”

In describing January 6 that way, Barr better understands how the insurrection worked than so many TV lawyers. He described it as an attempt to corruptly convince Congress to do something illegal and, in asserting that sending the mob was part of the plan, describes it as pre-mediated obstruction. This is, by all appearances, the crime for which that DOJ is investigating the former President.

But then, having described the same crime, witness tampering and obstruction, achieved in partnership with the same militias, the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, as Barr minimized with Stone, Barr then suggests Trump hasn’t committed the crime of incitement.

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Mike Milken will be his "sponsor" for his membership into the "giving pledge" membership, he was pardoned too.

Which created more life altering crimes? Stone run a junk bond theft scam too....

yup criminals...you see any signs that Stone is remorseful? Atoning for his crimes? In the slightest?

I haven't.

humans killed themselves because of what Mikey Milkan did........I'm not even sure what "crime" Stone committed. "lying" about who he had lunch with ? the "crimes" are not comparable.......not even close.

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:18 am The King of Whataboutism pipes up again with another irrelevant comparison.

We shouldn't give a fork about a Coup D'Etat against the US government, because...Mike Milken?? GMAFB

Genghis Khan treated his people poorly...Pol Pot lied about his intentions. Nancy Reagan acts a lot like Eleanor Roosevelt, y'know...!

We just shouldn't GIVE A FORK about ANYthing, because they ALL do it!!

Either that, or we just shouldn't waste time writing about things we don't like because....they ALL do it! Look! They're all the same!! Complain about Mike MIlken, Genghis Khan or WHOEVER or just STFU about Roger Frickin' Stone!! errr, what crimes did he commit again??

Makes SO much sense, this one, right? ...and remember, Ice Cream Doesn't Have Bones.

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dislaxxic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:51 am [Disdainful retort to Fatty-speak abandoned out of respect for Admin's requests for civility]

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am Just to be clear, Milken did two years of a 10 year sentence. He was not pardoned, he cooperated, giving testimony leading to numerous other convictions. He was barred from his prior profession.

He "repented" and sought to turn his life to doing good for others...and did so...for decades.

Trump pardoned him, not because he'd repented and done a lot of good...but, because...

Stone was convicted on 7 felony counts, but before he served a day, Trump commuted his sentence. Trump later pardoned Stone of those felonies in the midst of Stone's being a primary player in the organized insurrection.

He's done no time, no repentance, and he tripled down on his criminal behavior...profiting financially from it personally.

and that's where it currently stands.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:01 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am Just to be clear, Milken did two years of a 10 year sentence. He was not pardoned, he cooperated, giving testimony leading to numerous other convictions. He was barred from his prior profession.

He "repented" and sought to turn his life to doing good for others...and did so...for decades.

Trump pardoned him, not because he'd repented and done a lot of good...but, because...

Stone was convicted on 7 felony counts, but before he served a day, Trump commuted his sentence. Trump later pardoned Stone of those felonies in the midst of Stone's being a primary player in the organized insurrection.

He's done no time, no repentance, and he tripled down on his criminal behavior...profiting financially from it personally.

and that's where it currently stands.

would YOUR response, be the part that admin highlited in the unsportsman like rule? making unsubstanciated, unverified claims ?

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons- ... -2017-2021

one can't know everything, but, what one CAN do, is type a response "I forgot that, you were correct". That would be civil. Instead, I most likely, will go to the "box" for providing facts, instead of "troll like", putinesque unfacts.

Either have rules, or not. ...geez.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:06 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:01 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am Just to be clear, Milken did two years of a 10 year sentence. He was not pardoned, he cooperated, giving testimony leading to numerous other convictions. He was barred from his prior profession.

He "repented" and sought to turn his life to doing good for others...and did so...for decades.

Trump pardoned him, not because he'd repented and done a lot of good...but, because...

Stone was convicted on 7 felony counts, but before he served a day, Trump commuted his sentence. Trump later pardoned Stone of those felonies in the midst of Stone's being a primary player in the organized insurrection.

He's done no time, no repentance, and he tripled down on his criminal behavior...profiting financially from it personally.

and that's where it currently stands.

would YOUR response, be the part that admin highlited in the unsportsman like rule? making unsubstanciated, unverified claims ?

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons- ... -2017-2021

one can't know everything, but, what one CAN do, is type a response "I forgot that, you were correct". That would be civil. Instead, I most likely, will go to the "box" for providing facts, instead of "troll like", putinesque unfacts.

Either have rules, or not. ...geez.

I don't know what you're talking about. There's been two trolls (maybe a single person) who have been making ridiculous posts, and I don't mean you.

Are you saying you "forgot that, you (me) were correct" or are you asking me to do so?

Are you saying I made an unverified or unsubstantiated claim? If so, what was it?

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:17 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:06 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:01 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am Just to be clear, Milken did two years of a 10 year sentence. He was not pardoned, he cooperated, giving testimony leading to numerous other convictions. He was barred from his prior profession.

He "repented" and sought to turn his life to doing good for others...and did so...for decades.

Trump pardoned him, not because he'd repented and done a lot of good...but, because...

Stone was convicted on 7 felony counts, but before he served a day, Trump commuted his sentence. Trump later pardoned Stone of those felonies in the midst of Stone's being a primary player in the organized insurrection.

He's done no time, no repentance, and he tripled down on his criminal behavior...profiting financially from it personally.

and that's where it currently stands.

would YOUR response, be the part that admin highlited in the unsportsman like rule? making unsubstanciated, unverified claims ?

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons- ... -2017-2021

one can't know everything, but, what one CAN do, is type a response "I forgot that, you were correct". That would be civil. Instead, I most likely, will go to the "box" for providing facts, instead of "troll like", putinesque unfacts.

Either have rules, or not. ...geez.

I don't know what you're talking about. There's been two trolls (maybe a single person) who have been making ridiculous posts, and I don't mean you.

Are you saying you "forgot that, you (me) were correct" or are you asking me to do so?

Are you saying I made an unverified or unsubstantiated claim? If so, what was it?

uh...huh....you just ignored the link, and the bold.

now what?

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:17 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:06 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:01 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am Just to be clear, Milken did two years of a 10 year sentence. He was not pardoned, he cooperated, giving testimony leading to numerous other convictions. He was barred from his prior profession.

He "repented" and sought to turn his life to doing good for others...and did so...for decades.

Trump pardoned him, not because he'd repented and done a lot of good...but, because...

Stone was convicted on 7 felony counts, but before he served a day, Trump commuted his sentence. Trump later pardoned Stone of those felonies in the midst of Stone's being a primary player in the organized insurrection.

He's done no time, no repentance, and he tripled down on his criminal behavior...profiting financially from it personally.

and that's where it currently stands.

would YOUR response, be the part that admin highlited in the unsportsman like rule? making unsubstanciated, unverified claims ?

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons- ... -2017-2021

one can't know everything, but, what one CAN do, is type a response "I forgot that, you were correct". That would be civil. Instead, I most likely, will go to the "box" for providing facts, instead of "troll like", putinesque unfacts.

Either have rules, or not. ...geez.

I don't know what you're talking about. There's been two trolls (maybe a single person) who have been making ridiculous posts, and I don't mean you.

Are you saying you "forgot that, you (me) were correct" or are you asking me to do so?

Are you saying I made an unverified or unsubstantiated claim? If so, what was it?

uh...huh....you just ignored the link, and the bold.

now what?

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:21 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:17 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:06 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:01 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am Just to be clear, Milken did two years of a 10 year sentence. He was not pardoned, he cooperated, giving testimony leading to numerous other convictions. He was barred from his prior profession.

He "repented" and sought to turn his life to doing good for others...and did so...for decades.

Trump pardoned him, not because he'd repented and done a lot of good...but, because...

Stone was convicted on 7 felony counts, but before he served a day, Trump commuted his sentence. Trump later pardoned Stone of those felonies in the midst of Stone's being a primary player in the organized insurrection.

He's done no time, no repentance, and he tripled down on his criminal behavior...profiting financially from it personally.

and that's where it currently stands.

would YOUR response, be the part that admin highlited in the unsportsman like rule? making unsubstanciated, unverified claims ?

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons- ... -2017-2021

one can't know everything, but, what one CAN do, is type a response "I forgot that, you were correct". That would be civil. Instead, I most likely, will go to the "box" for providing facts, instead of "troll like", putinesque unfacts.

Either have rules, or not. ...geez.

I don't know what you're talking about. There's been two trolls (maybe a single person) who have been making ridiculous posts, and I don't mean you.

Are you saying you "forgot that, you (me) were correct" or are you asking me to do so?

Are you saying I made an unverified or unsubstantiated claim? If so, what was it?

uh...huh....you just ignored the link, and the bold.

now what?

and you ignored what I bolded in red.

Milken did 2 years, not pardoned then, but released on parole after cooperation and 'good behavior'. Repented and worked for decades in that effort.

Trump pardoned him decades after the fact, after he'd done time, was released, and decades of good deeds...

Trump commuted Stone's sentence before he did a day of time, then pardoned him as he promoted the insurrection on Trump's behalf.

What I wrote was accurate. This is not TAATS.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:21 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:17 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:06 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:01 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am Just to be clear, Milken did two years of a 10 year sentence. He was not pardoned, he cooperated, giving testimony leading to numerous other convictions. He was barred from his prior profession.

He "repented" and sought to turn his life to doing good for others...and did so...for decades.

Trump pardoned him, not because he'd repented and done a lot of good...but, because...

Stone was convicted on 7 felony counts, but before he served a day, Trump commuted his sentence. Trump later pardoned Stone of those felonies in the midst of Stone's being a primary player in the organized insurrection.

He's done no time, no repentance, and he tripled down on his criminal behavior...profiting financially from it personally.

and that's where it currently stands.

would YOUR response, be the part that admin highlited in the unsportsman like rule? making unsubstanciated, unverified claims ?

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons- ... -2017-2021

one can't know everything, but, what one CAN do, is type a response "I forgot that, you were correct". That would be civil. Instead, I most likely, will go to the "box" for providing facts, instead of "troll like", putinesque unfacts.

Either have rules, or not. ...geez.

I don't know what you're talking about. There's been two trolls (maybe a single person) who have been making ridiculous posts, and I don't mean you.

Are you saying you "forgot that, you (me) were correct" or are you asking me to do so?

Are you saying I made an unverified or unsubstantiated claim? If so, what was it?

uh...huh....you just ignored the link, and the bold.

now what?

and you ignored what I bolded in red.

Milken did 2 years, not pardoned then, but released on parole after cooperation and 'good behavior'. Repented and worked for decades in that effort.

Trump pardoned him decades after the fact, after he'd done time, was released, and decades of good deeds...

Trump commuted Stone's sentence before he did a day of time, then pardoned him as he promoted the insurrection on Trump's behalf.

What I wrote was accurate. This is not TAATS.