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Humidors are funny things.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:47 pmJared grabbing his wife’s elbow and going “take him to the Lincoln room and show him the “Monica”…”Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:28 am https://www.axios.com/2023/12/04/jared- ... ders-qatar
Jared and Ivanka meeting with Qatari PM last week in NYC - what could possibly go wrong with these two amateurs inserting themselves into foreign affairs?
I would really like to read FFGs take on this. This is his area of expertise. It would be a sad state of affairs when people can use people suffering and dying as a source of a quick buck.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:49 pm Israel investigates possible trading knowledge ahead of Oct 7 Hamas attack
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 023-12-04/
Yeah, things were much better when all our other Arab allies were feuding with Qatar.Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:28 am https://www.axios.com/2023/12/04/jared- ... ders-qatar
Jared and Ivanka meeting with Qatari PM last week in NYC - what could possibly go wrong with these two amateurs inserting themselves into foreign affairs?
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”Brooklyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:09 am Israel-Palestine war: Israel accused of staging footage of Palestinian man surrendering weapons
Video showing aluminium workshop owner in Gaza handing over guns called into question by disinformation expert
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/isra ... ng-weapons
FAKE NEWS PHOTOGRAPH:
Israel's military has been accused of staging footage showing stripped Palestinian men handing over weapons in northern Gaza.
In a video shared on Saturday, scores of men wearing only their underwear are seen next to an Israeli tank holding up their identification cards.
One of the men proceeds to walk forward with his arms in the air in a surrendering motion, before placing at least one gun on the ground.
The Palestinian man in the video was identified as Moin Qeshta al-Masry, the owner of a local aluminium workshop. The video was taken in front of a United Nations-run school in Beit Lahia, north of Jabalia refugee camp.
In two separate clips shared online, Masry can be seen handing over a gun with his left hand, and then again with his right hand. An investigation by Al Jazeera's fact-checking unit found that it was two takes of the same video.
Marc Owen Jones, academic and commentator who writes extensively about online disinformation, posted a thread on X, formerly Twitter, suggesting Israeli troops temporarily armed a civilian for the purpose of a "photo shoot".
In the footage, an Israeli soldier can be heard telling Masry: "Grab the gun I gave you, don't shoot. Walk slowly, and leave it on the ground on the other side."
Jones also pointed out that it would appear illogical for Israeli troops to remove the clothes of the detainees while they were still armed.
A BBC Verified report suggested that both clips were part of the same continuous sequence, and three guns were handed over in total.
"I don't really understand the one continuous take argument. It seems to be splitting hairs," Jones told Middle East Eye.
"The fact is they seemed to be using him to fetch guns for the purpose of propaganda film. Obviously whether they reshot or filmed it continuously seems irrelevant."
The BBC report stated that Masry was being held at gunpoint and issued directions by Israeli officers, raising questions about whether he was "surrendering" weapons.
"Given he is already in his underwear and he cannot have been concealing them on his person, it's unlikely Israeli troops did not know about these weapons, suggesting this may be performed for the camera, rather than as an act of authentic surrender," the investigation added.
Journalists and aid workers detained
Last week, images and videos emerged showing Israeli troops detaining dozens of Palestinian men, stripping them of their clothes and forcing them to sit lined up on the ground with their hands tied behind their backs.
Israeli media suggested that the men were Palestinian fighters, but provided no evidence.
Israel-Palestine war: Families of Palestinians stripped and detained recall ‘humiliating’ Israeli arrests
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i24News, an Israeli broadcaster, said Saturday's video showed "another batch of Hamas jihadists surrendering to the IDF in Jabalia".
MEE obtained a list of full names, ages, and professions of 25 people among those arrested by Israel last week.
That list, as well as eyewitness accounts, indicate that those detained are academics, journalists, teachers at UN-run schools, school students, blue-collar workers, and employees with the Palestinian Authority.
Among the detainees were Darwish al-Gherbawi, 58, a school principal; Ahmed Akram Mohammed Lubbad, 35, a teacher; Youssef Khaled Mohammed Lubbad, 15, a student; Tamer Omar Surour, 35, a barber; Atiya Faye Lubbad, 43, a tailor; Ibrahim Abdul-Raouf Lubbad, 35, a computer engineer; and university students Abdullah Akram Lubbad, 19; Abdul-Rahman Abdul-Raouf Lubbad, 19; Hamza Jamil Lubbad, 19; and Jihad Abdul-Raouf Lubbad, 22.
On Thursday, Israel's broadcasting authority said that the Israeli military has jailed around 700 Palestinians from the Gaza Strip and placed them in administrative detention since 7 October.
When Hamas takes non combatants it is said to be "kidnapping". When Israel does it it's called "detainees". As with the stories about children getting beheaded and imaginary tunnels, the Israeli propaganda myths are exposed for the lies they are.
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”
Maya Angelou
Whoooooosssshhhh.Brooklyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:39 am“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”
Maya Angelou
photo 1: silver haired Palestinian "terrorist" submitting weapon
photo 2: same "terrorist" submit different weapon held by his right hand
photo 3: same "terrorist" submitting different weapon this time held by left hand
Unless we had a set of triplets with the same hair cut it becomes impossible to believe any of these FAKE NEWS photos are real. IDF National Security Adviser Hanegbi says you will not see photos like these anymore as "they serve nobody’s interest". The reality, however, is because of the international backlash against this type of propaganda and the inhuman abuse of civilians.
You continue to misconstrue my comment. Maybe die to your preferred “reality?”Brooklyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:44 pm
LOL! Let's turn that around. Imagine someone being dumb enough to believe an overaged, overweight grandfather who runs a successful business and is well known in his community is going to be a gun toting "terrorist". The IDF in its stupidity made the mistake of using him as an example of someone engaging in "terrorism". When their propaganda is exposed they suddenly decide to stop using pics like this because the truth about their lies is readily discernible.
P.S. I say Hamas and IDF because they are the actors. Are there others deserving of opprobrium? Undoubtedly, but they have not revealed themselves fully, yet.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:57 pmYou continue to misconstrue my comment. Maybe die to your preferred “reality?”Brooklyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:44 pm
LOL! Let's turn that around. Imagine someone being dumb enough to believe an overaged, overweight grandfather who runs a successful business and is well known in his community is going to be a gun toting "terrorist". The IDF in its stupidity made the mistake of using him as an example of someone engaging in "terrorism". When their propaganda is exposed they suddenly decide to stop using pics like this because the truth about their lies is readily discernible.
But let me be more explicit: both Hamas and the IDF have revealed themselves. The whole world should “believe” them.
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1734662 ... 58307?s=20Turkish lawmaker Hasan Bitmez collapses from a heart attack just seconds after saying Israel would "suffer the wrath of Allah."
The 53-year old lawmaker collapsed after giving his speech in the General Assembly Hall in Ankara, the Capital of Turkey.
"We can perhaps hide from our conscience but not from history... Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah," he said seconds before collapsing.
No need to invoke the imaginary when the depravity of humanity is evident.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:53 pm
Phuk around and Find out.
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1734662 ... 58307?s=20Turkish lawmaker Hasan Bitmez collapses from a heart attack just seconds after saying Israel would "suffer the wrath of Allah."
The 53-year old lawmaker collapsed after giving his speech in the General Assembly Hall in Ankara, the Capital of Turkey.
"We can perhaps hide from our conscience but not from history... Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah," he said seconds before collapsing.
I think we can't really say that the GOP is the exclusive "residence of antisemitism" though I'd agree that Neo-nazi, white nationalists are no longer rejected by the GOP, so it would be fair to say that the MAGA GOP welcomes these right wing "America First" types. That became obvious in the 2016 campaign, Charlottesville, and then 2020.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:37 am Israel’s ambassador to the UK, Tzipi Hotovely, rejected ideas of a two-state solution and said Israel would not accept it as a prospect.
Bengie has said the same. I noted tgat at the beginning of the conflicf. It is all about taking the land. BTW sea water in the tunnels could make the land inhabitable.
Where else have we heard of mass rape, kidnapped children, murdered civilians? Ukraine. GOP which is the current residence of antisemitism in the USA including the potential presidential nominee registers off the scale on hypocrisy both on these issues and impeachment.