All Things Russia & Ukraine

[jhu72]

PB - um, no.

No matter what your lying media is telling you there does not actually appear to be any real evidence of such crimes…

The burden of proof is on you to provide such evidence. Not “it looks like” or other weasel wording…

You might want to prepare yourself.

Durham probe has 'accelerated,' with more people 'cooperating,' coming before grand jury

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham ... grand-jury

That article is laughable. The level of misunderstanding of the DNS system alone is amazing. And as yet nothing Durham has come up with at this point resembles some vast conspiracy.

And he has had years of work on the so called problem. Far longer than Mueller, who actually found stuff…

I’m fairly sure Durham already has three indictments which (if past is prologue with prosecutors and it is!) are merely stepping stones to the big kahuna, ya gal Hillary. But mostly I want to see that slob Elias frog-marched into a court.

Oh the glory and joy to be an American today, to witness the entire media Democratic colossus destroyed, hoisted on its own petard of Russia Russia Russia…

By each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.

... dream on Kellyanne

fairy tales can come true,
it can happen to you,
when you watch Faux News.

[Peter Brown]

PB - um, no.

No matter what your lying media is telling you there does not actually appear to be any real evidence of such crimes…

The burden of proof is on you to provide such evidence. Not “it looks like” or other weasel wording…

You might want to prepare yourself.

Durham probe has 'accelerated,' with more people 'cooperating,' coming before grand jury

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham ... grand-jury

That article is laughable. The level of misunderstanding of the DNS system alone is amazing. And as yet nothing Durham has come up with at this point resembles some vast conspiracy.

And he has had years of work on the so called problem. Far longer than Mueller, who actually found stuff…

I’m fairly sure Durham already has three indictments which (if past is prologue with prosecutors and it is!) are merely stepping stones to the big kahuna, ya gal Hillary. But mostly I want to see that slob Elias frog-marched into a court.

Oh the glory and joy to be an American today, to witness the entire media Democratic colossus destroyed, hoisted on its own petard of Russia Russia Russia…

By each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.

... dream on Kellyanne

fairy tales can come true,
it can happen to you,
when you watch Faux News.

Speaking of news, when is CNN’s Malone going to can Stelter, Lemon, Acosta, and all the other dingbat DNC propagandists at that channel? Their ratings are lower than Nickelodeon Ren and Stimpy reruns.

Tulsi delivering the tough love today to her team:

“The Durham investigation has shown that the biggest threat to our democracy is not some foreign country, but rather the Power Elite led by the likes of Hillary Clinton and her co-conspirators in the mainstream media & security state who work to undermine our democracy from within”

Love that woman.

[PizzaSnake]

Both siders. Fools or accomplices, your pick.

‘Zero Hedge denied the claims and said it tries to “publish a wide spectrum of views that cover both sides of a given story.”‘

Maybe a new sobriquet? Zero Sense?

[RedFromMI]

Tulsi is ONLY relevant on the Faux News platform.

[cradleandshoot]

Tulsi is ONLY relevant on the Faux News platform.

Isn't Tulsi a self defined "moderate Democrat" ? I thought " moderate Democrats" give the usual suspects on this forum good wood? I guess there are good moderate Democrats and very bad moderate Democrats.

[old salt]

Great speech today by Pres Biden.

Diplomacy. De-escalate. Deter. De-conflict. Demilitarize.

[old salt]

NATO dithering on southern tripwires on the E flank.
Putin take note -- NATO is sharpening pencils.
Meanwhile -- the US has already rolled a 1000 troop strong Stryker Brigade out of Germany & into Romania,
& flown 5000 troops from the 82nd Airborne into Poland.
NATO solidarity.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/na ... 022-02-15/

NATO to consider new troops on southeastern flank amid Russian threat

Summary
NATO defence ministers meet on Wednesday, Thursday
New forces may go to Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Romania
No final decision this week

BRUSSELS, Feb 15 (Reuters) - NATO defence ministers are expected this week to set in motion a plan that could establish four multinational battlegroups in southeastern Europe in response to Russia's military build-up in Ukraine, four diplomats said.

Allied ministers meeting on Wednesday and Thursday will decide whether to order their military commanders to draw up plans to deploy battlegroups of some 1,000 troops each to Bulgaria and Romania, and possibly to Slovakia and Hungary.

With NATO meeting as the United States warns of an imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine, diplomats told Reuters that ministers are likely to agree to direct commanders to come up with a detailed plan for the four battlegroups on land.

"There will be a tasking that allows us to escalate but also to de-escalate if Russia pulls back its military," a senior NATO diplomat said, stressing that any new battlegroups would be on top of recent allied offers by Britain, the United States and others of ships and planes to reinforce NATO's eastern flank.

Any final decision on deployments would come later on, although both France and Bulgaria have offered to lead the battlegroups in Romania and Bulgaria respectively. With Budapest wary of provoking Russia, Hungary could stand up a battalion entirely of its own troops, under NATO command, diplomats said.

'4,000 VS 130,000'

The move would be NATO's biggest shift in force posture since it set up its "Enhanced Forward Presence" battlegroups in Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Poland - backed by tanks, air defences and intelligence and surveillance units - in response to Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014.

Any deployments would go against Moscow's security demands for the alliance to withdraw troops from eastern Europe. But envoys said an increased troop presence of 4,000 troops was not comparable to the estimated 130,000 Russian troops and equipment to the north, east and south of Ukraine.

NATO insists that the battlegroup format used in the Baltics is not a permanent stationing of troops, rather a "persistent" presence of rotating soldiers to serve as a tripwire for a larger response force should Russia invade NATO territory.

A French presidency official said French troops will deploy to Romania only after a NATO decision and that the designing and arming the battlegroups would still take time because allies must come forward to participate. "There will be a debate within the North Atlantic Council and we are basically aiming for a deadline of a few months," the official said.

NATO could also consider a multinational force led by France in Romania that would coordinate allied exercises in eastern Europe and allow troops to flow in and out of the region without establishing a formal presence.

[jhu72]

Tulsi is ONLY relevant on the Faux News platform.

Isn't Tulsi a self defined "moderate Democrat" ? I thought " moderate Democrats" give the usual suspects on this forum good wood? I guess there are good moderate Democrats and very bad moderate Democrats.

... she's a Russophile. Better off in the republican / party of Trump.

[cradleandshoot]

Tulsi is ONLY relevant on the Faux News platform.

Isn't Tulsi a self defined "moderate Democrat" ? I thought " moderate Democrats" give the usual suspects on this forum good wood? I guess there are good moderate Democrats and very bad moderate Democrats.

... she's a Russophile. Better off in the republican / party of Trump.

That explains the hostility towards her on this forum. If your gonna be a good Democrat you need to follow orders.

[DocBarrister]

The vicious Vladimir Putin, a murderous tyrant whom far too many members of this forum seem to admire, leads a corrupt, malignant, decrepit nation.

In addition to his clear intent to kill tens of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians, there is the cruel and uncaring abuse of a child put on display for the entire world to see … the sad, cautionary tale of Kamila Valieva.

Kamila Valieva was heaving. Not crying. Heaving. This was pain, full-on, full-emotion, pain. This was humiliation. This was devastation. This was everything.

… Russian coaches. Russian doctors. Russian officials. That's who put this kind of stuff together. That's who administers it, not some naive teen who's lived nearly her entire life inside the cocoon of the Figure Skating Federation of Russia, built, by all means necessary, to be a champion.

Yet now she was not a champion. She was a punchline. A cautionary tale. The moral of a story about morals. She was a heaping dose of global schadenfreude, her failure celebrated. Fifteen? That's a high school sophomore, the age when the slightest of slights on social media inside a small peer group can deliver unimaginable negative reactions.

How is it on the global stage?

Now she was alone bawling. Failed by her coaches. Failed by her federation. Failed by the IOC and CAS and everyone else who was supposed to protect her, but instead propped her up for profit and tainted glory.

… Kamila Valieva is a victim of child abuse in real time. Yet the Olympics not only kept her with her captives, they emboldened and empowered them.

The IOC is proud that it outsourced all discipline, doping or otherwise. It would rather just wash its hands and cash the checks. What is left behind is left behind, like some useless, dilapidated bobsled track in Sarajevo. It's just the cost of the Games, the cost of doing business.

In this case it was a heaving, bawling, broken 15-year-old, a singular example of a far greater evil.

https://sports.yahoo.com/olympic-figure ... 45056.html

DocBarrister

[jhu72]

... maybe Tulsi can skate for them. She has already danced.

[old salt]

The vicious Vladimir Putin, a murderous tyrant whom far too many members of this forum seem to admire, leads a corrupt, malignant, decrepit nation.

...there is the cruel and uncaring abuse of a child put on display for the entire world to see … the sad, cautionary tale of Kamila Valieva.

Bill Clinton was a crooked mob boss for letting that thug Tanya Harding skate.

[old salt]

The vicious Vladimir Putin, a murderous tyrant whom far too many members of this forum seem to admire, leads a corrupt, malignant, decrepit nation.

In addition to his clear intent to kill tens of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians...

Don't worry. Zelensky's just making another joke that we don't get.

[MDlaxfan76]

The vicious Vladimir Putin, a murderous tyrant whom far too many members of this forum seem to admire, leads a corrupt, malignant, decrepit nation.

...there is the cruel and uncaring abuse of a child put on display for the entire world to see … the sad, cautionary tale of Kamila Valieva.

Bill Clinton was a crooked mob boss for letting that thug Tanya Harding skate.

Ahh, to the rescue for Vlad with whataboutism that's clearly bogus...par for the course.

Doc's hyperbole notwithstanding, it's ridiculous that there's any Russian team allowed, regardless of name...they've been caught time after time after time cheating...https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/spor ... g-ban.html

[NattyBohChamps04]

The vicious Vladimir Putin, a murderous tyrant whom far too many members of this forum seem to admire, leads a corrupt, malignant, decrepit nation.

...there is the cruel and uncaring abuse of a child put on display for the entire world to see … the sad, cautionary tale of Kamila Valieva.

Bill Clinton was a crooked mob boss for letting that thug Tanya Harding skate.

A state-run doping program is exactly the same as Tanya Harding.

[old salt]

After WW II the USSR let the German nuclear physicists & rocket scientists slip away to the west.

After the cold war, they got the German doping docs.
https://www.ironcurtainproject.eu/en/st ... -athletes/

We're about to plunge into the biggest war in Europe since WW II & you're worried about a teenage figure skater. She's not Anne Frank.

[DocBarrister]

After WW II the USSR let the German nuclear physicists & rocket scientists slip away to the west.

After the cold war, they got the German doping docs.
https://www.ironcurtainproject.eu/en/st ... -athletes/

We're about to plunge into the biggest war in Europe since WW II & you're worried about a teenage figure skater. She's not Anne Frank.

You missed the larger point, as usual.

Russia’s abuse of Valieva is symptomatic of the broader corruption and cruelty of Vladimir Putin’s despotic Russia.

By the way, old salt, have you registered yet?

https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/freque ... -questions

DocBarrister

[old salt]

From the WSJ editors :

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-loomin ... _lead_pos2

Russia’s Looming War on Europe
If Biden is right about Putin, the world will enter an ugly new era.
by The Editorial Board, Feb. 18, 2022

President Biden removed any doubt Friday about American expectations about Vladimir Putin’s plans for Ukraine. The Russian President has made up his mind to invade, Mr. Biden said in comments from the White House, and the likely war will include an armed assault to take the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv.

The U.S. has been close to predicting this for several days, and perhaps Mr. Biden wanted to give the Russian President one more opportunity to consider the consequences of war. The U.S. President said the U.S. and Europe will be firm and united in response, as will America’s political parties. If Mr. Putin thought he would be getting a free ride, Mr. Biden said he is mistaken.

We hope he’s right, though Mr. Putin is surely expecting that the Europeans will blink when it comes to serious sanctions. His propaganda machine will work overtime to fan European fears of a broader conflict and economic damage, as well as the rising isolationist sentiment on the American left and right.

It’s worth saying what should have been obvious long ago but was forgotten after decades of relative peace in Europe: A Russian invasion of Ukraine should mean the end to illusions about shared international values and norms. The era of authoritarian imperialism is back with a vengeance.

Russia and China want to topple the U.S.-led international order and create spheres of influence they dominate. They see a retreating America, consumed with internal division, and they are going to exploit it. Ukraine is only the first target. The world may soon recall with nostalgia the decades when American power and principles enforced global peace.

The USA can no longer do it alone.

This is getting serious. 12 USAF F-35's have deployed to Spangdahlem AB in Germany.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... asion.html

[cradleandshoot]

... maybe Tulsi can skate for them. She has already danced.

That big tent, all inclusive party of loving diversity and tolerance becomes smaller and smaller every time Doc 72 posts.

[cradleandshoot]

After WW II the USSR let the German nuclear physicists & rocket scientists slip away to the west.

After the cold war, they got the German doping docs.
https://www.ironcurtainproject.eu/en/st ... -athletes/

We're about to plunge into the biggest war in Europe since WW II & you're worried about a teenage figure skater. She's not Anne Frank.

You missed the larger point, as usual.

Russia’s abuse of Valieva is symptomatic of the broader corruption and cruelty of Vladimir Putin’s despotic Russia.

By the way, old salt, have you registered yet?

https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara/freque ... -questions

DocBarrister

We should just hand you a rifle Doc and send your ass to the front lines. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is? Your a very pretty cheerleader on the sidelines waving your pom poms. In stunning fashion you have become the resident Fanlax chicken hawk. Lock and load Doc, lock and load...