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Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 10:45 pm
by Ozstriker
Ivies got really screwed. Winning games has to matter more.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 10:48 pm
by rolldodge
Some great matchups in the first round. Especially interested to see St Joe vs Virginia and Syracuse vs Towson.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 10:49 pm
by BigTurn
Ozstriker wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 10:45 pm Ivies got really screwed. Winning games has to matter more.
Maryland, who is not very good, beat the Ivy champ handily. For the record, I think Princeton is about to return the favor

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 11:09 pm
by Hooz123
Ozstriker wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 10:45 pm Ivies got really screwed. Winning games has to matter more.
Cupcake league. We never forget that joke 6-team tournament. Screw that league. Same King wouldn’t even start in the ACC

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 11:22 pm
by Dlaxva5
Ozstriker wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 10:45 pm Ivies got really screwed. Winning games has to matter more.
More than losing games?

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 11:52 pm
by rasheed
Ivies got screwed. I'm shocked UVa made the tournament, given their four-game skid. I have as much faith in Uva this season as I do in myself doing more than 15 pull-ups in a span of 2-6 hrs.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 8:05 am
by CU88a
rasheed wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 11:52 pm Ivies got screwed. I'm shocked UVa made the tournament, given their four-game skid. I have as much faith in Uva this season as I do in myself doing more than 15 pull-ups in a span of 2-6 hrs.
:lol:

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 8:44 am
by Ozstriker
The fact that both UMD and UVa are ranked seeds is all I need to know. No other programs could get a way with their results this season and make it into the tourney, let alone be seeded. Getting your tails kicked by better teams all year shouldn’t be on the plus side of the ledger.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 8:51 am
by JerrysWorld
Ozstriker wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:44 am The fact that both UMD and UVa are ranked seeds is all I need to know. No other programs could get a way with their results this season and make it into the tourney, let alone be seeded. Getting your tails kicked by better teams all year shouldn’t be on the plus side of the ledger.
I get your frustration because of how they looked against PSU. But MD has 3 top 10 wins. That’s not getting your tails kicked by better teams all year. The only team with more than those wins is ND.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 9:11 am
by HopFan16
JerrysWorld wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:51 am
Ozstriker wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:44 am The fact that both UMD and UVa are ranked seeds is all I need to know. No other programs could get a way with their results this season and make it into the tourney, let alone be seeded. Getting your tails kicked by better teams all year shouldn’t be on the plus side of the ledger.
I get your frustration because of how they looked against PSU. But MD has 3 top 10 wins. That’s not getting your tails kicked by better teams all year. The only team with more than those wins is ND.
Hopkins has 4

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 9:23 am
by coda
HopFan16 wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 9:11 am
JerrysWorld wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:51 am
Ozstriker wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:44 am The fact that both UMD and UVa are ranked seeds is all I need to know. No other programs could get a way with their results this season and make it into the tourney, let alone be seeded. Getting your tails kicked by better teams all year shouldn’t be on the plus side of the ledger.
I get your frustration because of how they looked against PSU. But MD has 3 top 10 wins. That’s not getting your tails kicked by better teams all year. The only team with more than those wins is ND.
Hopkins has 4
Michigan has 3 top 10 wins and is on the road.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 9:35 am
by JerrysWorld
My bad. And Hopkins seeded accordingly (3). Michigan has a bad loss in Rutgers I guess.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 9:57 am
by Brownlax
Hooz123 wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 11:09 pm
Ozstriker wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 10:45 pm Ivies got really screwed. Winning games has to matter more.
Cupcake league. We never forget that joke 6-team tournament. Screw that league. Same King wouldn’t even start in the ACC
As a fairly new poster, you sure have a lot of negative posts. Maybe one less cup of coffee for you today and lay off the adderall- it’s making you cranky! 😂

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 9:58 am
by masondixonlax
Ozstriker wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:44 am The fact that both UMD and UVa are ranked seeds is all I need to know. No other programs could get a way with their results this season and make it into the tourney, let alone be seeded. Getting your tails kicked by better teams all year shouldn’t be on the plus side of the ledger.
Conspiracy!

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 10:02 am
by steel_hop
JerrysWorld wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 9:35 am My bad. And Hopkins seeded accordingly (3). Michigan has a bad loss in Rutgers I guess.
Sure. But, UM was an automatic qualifier. UM winning the B1G championship basically took the other Ivy's spot. But, yeah, UVA and UMD's performances this weekend sure didn't look good for the tournament committee.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 10:23 am
by Chousnake
steel_hop wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 10:02 am
JerrysWorld wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 9:35 am My bad. And Hopkins seeded accordingly (3). Michigan has a bad loss in Rutgers I guess.
Sure. But, UM was an automatic qualifier. UM winning the B1G championship basically took the other Ivy's spot. But, yeah, UVA and UMD's performances this weekend sure didn't look good for the tournament committee.
Of the seeded teams, who besides ND looked good this weekend? Duke got blown out yesterday. Hopkins looked awful vs Michigan. Syracuse was thumped by Duke. Denver looked ordinary vs Villanova. UVA hasn’t played well in about a month. Maryland also hasn’t played well in a very long time. Georgetown barely squeaked by Providence and ‘Nova. Throw in PSUs stinker vs Michigan.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:44 am
by LaxDownUnder
I don't know how to check this one but did Maryland's loss to PSU actually help its own resume and help them secure a seed?

I've seen the argument that they have 3 top 10 RPI wins as evidence of their strong body of work but I'm curious if the loss to PSU on Thursday night was what landed PSU in the top 10 RPI. If Maryland had beaten PSU, would Maryland have had 2 top 10 wins and 2 11-20 wins?

Of course, they would have had another game to play against Michigan that I'm not accounting for but I'm curious about what looks better on paper, 8-5 with 3 top 10 wins or 9-4 with 2 top 10 wins and 2 top 20 wins.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:47 am
by coda
LaxDownUnder wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 11:44 am I don't know how to check this one but did Maryland's loss to PSU actually help its own resume and help them secure a seed?

I've seen the argument that they have 3 top 10 RPI wins as evidence of their strong body of work but I'm curious if the loss to PSU on Thursday night was what landed PSU in the top 10 RPI. If Maryland had beaten PSU, would Maryland have had 2 top 10 wins and 2 11-20 wins?

Of course, they would have had another game to play against Michigan that I'm not accounting for but I'm curious about what looks better on paper, 8-5 with 3 top 10 wins or 9-4 with 2 top 10 wins and 2 top 20 wins.
Maryland was in either way. RPI and SOS were just too strong

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:51 am
by laxreference
LaxDownUnder wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 11:44 am I don't know how to check this one but did Maryland's loss to PSU actually help its own resume and help them secure a seed?

I've seen the argument that they have 3 top 10 RPI wins as evidence of their strong body of work but I'm curious if the loss to PSU on Thursday night was what landed PSU in the top 10 RPI. If Maryland had beaten PSU, would Maryland have had 2 top 10 wins and 2 11-20 wins?

Of course, they would have had another game to play against Michigan that I'm not accounting for but I'm curious about what looks better on paper, 8-5 with 3 top 10 wins or 9-4 with 2 top 10 wins and 2 top 20 wins.
Penn state would have been 10th with a loss to MD (and therefore no loss to UM). So the Terps would have had the top-10 win either way.

Their overall resume was 7th with the loss and would have been 5th if they'd beaten PSU. They probably cost themselves a seed or two by losing that game.

Re: 2024 Bracketology

Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:54 am
by LaxDownUnder
coda wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 11:47 am
LaxDownUnder wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 11:44 am I don't know how to check this one but did Maryland's loss to PSU actually help its own resume and help them secure a seed?

I've seen the argument that they have 3 top 10 RPI wins as evidence of their strong body of work but I'm curious if the loss to PSU on Thursday night was what landed PSU in the top 10 RPI. If Maryland had beaten PSU, would Maryland have had 2 top 10 wins and 2 11-20 wins?

Of course, they would have had another game to play against Michigan that I'm not accounting for but I'm curious about what looks better on paper, 8-5 with 3 top 10 wins or 9-4 with 2 top 10 wins and 2 top 20 wins.
Maryland was in either way. RPI and SOS were just too strong
I get that they're probably in either way but I think this is an interesting case a team with a high SOS that may have benefited by taking the infamous "good loss".