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wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:46 pm

10stone5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:34 pm I’m thinking 4 is the number,
hard to imagine ND and Duke not getting in the NCAAs.

ha! u can imagine it!
what did you think about nd and duke not getting in this time last year?

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:11 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

ND got robbed because they had a tough OCC schedule and didn’t win any and then lost to tournament caliber conference teams. They did beat Duke and Syracuse last year though.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:11 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

ND got robbed because they had a tough OCC schedule and didn’t win any and then lost to tournament caliber conference teams. They did beat Duke and Syracuse last year though.

they didn't get robbed. new committee. there's a new sheriff in town.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:32 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:11 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

ND got robbed because they had a tough OCC schedule and didn’t win any and then lost to tournament caliber conference teams. They did beat Duke and Syracuse last year though.

they didn't get robbed. new committee. there's a new sheriff in town.

Like the teams. It’s a new season. Wipe the slate clean. Beat good teams and don’t lose to bad teams. The committee will be judged on how they do this season. Just like the teams. No need to look backwards.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:46 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:32 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:11 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

ND got robbed because they had a tough OCC schedule and didn’t win any and then lost to tournament caliber conference teams. They did beat Duke and Syracuse last year though.

they didn't get robbed. new committee. there's a new sheriff in town.

Like the teams. It’s a new season. Wipe the slate clean. Beat good teams and don’t lose to bad teams. The committee will be judged on how they do this season. Just like the teams. No need to look backwards.

i thought we were on the same page. alas... there is no judging the committee. that's what last year said. committee rule stands. and from what i understand, while they don't all rotate together, the chair (and others) are on for a few years.

beat good teams and don't lose to bad teams doesn't matter anymore. it's the commitee. #allin

Gobigred wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:54 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:46 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:32 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:11 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

ND got robbed because they had a tough OCC schedule and didn’t win any and then lost to tournament caliber conference teams. They did beat Duke and Syracuse last year though.

they didn't get robbed. new committee. there's a new sheriff in town.

Like the teams. It’s a new season. Wipe the slate clean. Beat good teams and don’t lose to bad teams. The committee will be judged on how they do this season. Just like the teams. No need to look backwards.

i thought we were on the same page. alas... there is no judging the committee. that's what last year said. committee rule stands. and from what i understand, while they don't all rotate together, the chair (and others) are on for a few years.

beat good teams and don't lose to bad teams doesn't matter anymore. it's the commitee. #allin

You have it backwards. You do have to beat good teams and not lose to bad ones. Neither ND nor Duke did that last year. The committee rightly called that out and sent them home...where they belonged.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:18 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

so their strategy is based on guessing when st joseph's qualifies for the nc$$ tournament for the 1st time ever?!?!? they didn't beat any other tournament teams last year ooc. pretty prescient, they are!!! and they won in ot, boy that was close!!! or is it based on devitte writing an article, and they then get to win those games? lmao.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:57 pm

Gobigred wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:54 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:46 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:32 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:11 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

ND got robbed because they had a tough OCC schedule and didn’t win any and then lost to tournament caliber conference teams. They did beat Duke and Syracuse last year though.

they didn't get robbed. new committee. there's a new sheriff in town.

Like the teams. It’s a new season. Wipe the slate clean. Beat good teams and don’t lose to bad teams. The committee will be judged on how they do this season. Just like the teams. No need to look backwards.

i thought we were on the same page. alas... there is no judging the committee. that's what last year said. committee rule stands. and from what i understand, while they don't all rotate together, the chair (and others) are on for a few years.

beat good teams and don't lose to bad teams doesn't matter anymore. it's the commitee. #allin

You have it backwards. You do have to beat good teams and not lose to bad ones. Neither ND nor Duke did that last year. The committee rightly called that out and sent them home...where they belonged.

huh.... pull the criteria and make your case for tosu over nd.. i'm interested.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:31 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:18 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

so their strategy is based on guessing when st joseph's qualifies for the nc$$ tournament for the 1st time ever?!?!? they didn't beat any other tournament teams last year ooc. pretty prescient, they are!!! and they won in ot, boy that was close!!! or is it based on devitte writing an article, and they then get to win those games? lmao.

Laughing your asz off?

Or, I don’t know, win your AQ…

That works.

Wins talk, BS walks.

So, mighty ND gonna win, or whinge?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:34 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:31 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:18 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

so their strategy is based on guessing when st joseph's qualifies for the nc$$ tournament for the 1st time ever?!?!? they didn't beat any other tournament teams last year ooc. pretty prescient, they are!!! and they won in ot, boy that was close!!! or is it based on devitte writing an article, and they then get to win those games? lmao.

Laughing your asz off?

Or, I don’t know, win your AQ…

That works.

Wins talk, BS walks.

So, mighty ND gonna win, or whinge?

ND was better than Duke and Syracuse last year.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:31 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:57 pm

Gobigred wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:54 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:46 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:32 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:22 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:11 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:37 pm

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm

Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
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The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

ND got robbed because they had a tough OCC schedule and didn’t win any and then lost to tournament caliber conference teams. They did beat Duke and Syracuse last year though.

they didn't get robbed. new committee. there's a new sheriff in town.

Like the teams. It’s a new season. Wipe the slate clean. Beat good teams and don’t lose to bad teams. The committee will be judged on how they do this season. Just like the teams. No need to look backwards.

i thought we were on the same page. alas... there is no judging the committee. that's what last year said. committee rule stands. and from what i understand, while they don't all rotate together, the chair (and others) are on for a few years.

beat good teams and don't lose to bad teams doesn't matter anymore. it's the commitee. #allin

You have it backwards. You do have to beat good teams and not lose to bad ones. Neither ND nor Duke did that last year. The committee rightly called that out and sent them home...where they belonged.

huh.... pull the criteria and make your case for tosu over nd.. i'm interested.

toSu beat Harvard, a tournament team and got in over Notre Dame for the last spot based on head to head. That is “a” case.

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Sportin' Life wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:55 pm NE Lax Journal addresses the three top questions facing the IL (pay wall): https://www.laxjournal.com/answering-th ... ies-in-23/.

Answering three burning questions facing the Ivies in ’23
By Kyle Devitte
February 7, 2023

The highest level of academic excellence in the country is also the home to six of the best men’s lacrosse teams going into 2023.

The Ivy League has always put forth at least one or two top-tier teams, but last year it produced six NCAA tournament teams – a record among all conferences. Cornell would last the longest, making it to the NCAA championship game but ultimately falling to a dominant Maryland team, 9-7.

This spring, all eyes will be on those six teams to see whether they can replicate the feat. Some teams were challenged by graduation and COVID transfers, while others strengthened their resolve with solid recruiting classes and hungry underclassmen.

We are in for another unpredictable year in the Ivy League. Let’s answer the tough questions.

Which team has the most to prove?
This is a loaded question. No team from the Ivy League won the NCAA tournament. Sure, Cornell got there, but in terms of teams bowing out of the bracket, you could look at all six having disappointing runs simply because that final goal was not achieved.

A national championship for the Ivy League is maybe not something everyone roots for — especially not diehard fans of Big Ten and ACC teams — who make up the majority of D-1 lacrosse fans, but it would still draw even more attention to the programs everyone wants to be recruited by.

With that being said, Yale and Harvard — the most storied of rivals — are at the top of the heap in terms of fulfilling their potential. Yes, Cornell will be excellent even with the departure of John Piatelli (Wrentham, Mass.), but in terms of taking the next step to greatness, all eyes will be on the Elis and the Crimson.

Who will be this year’s breakout player?
All eyes will be on Yale attackman Matt Brandau. He’s a first-team All-American, he’s the top scorer for the Bulldogs, and he’s the engine that runs coach Andy Shay’s offense.

However, keeping with the theme of Harvard-Yale rivalries, Sam King would be my pick for a breakout player in 2023. The dynamic X attackman generated 46 points as a freshman last spring. He’s not exactly going to double that, but if the Crimson really develops their mid-range shooters, King could easily eclipse his team-high 21 assists.

Of course, Princeton has a bevy of players on offense who could jump into this conversation as well. Jake Stevens is chief among them. Named a first-team All-American by any and all disambiguation of the honor, Stevens is the most respected all-around offensive midfielder in the Ivy League other than Penn phenom Sam Handley, and somehow he’s still underrated in the national picture.

How many teams make the NCAA tournament this year?
A sucker’s bet is to wager on six teams from the Ivy League making the NCAA tournament once again. Even five teams would be a stretch. But what are the odds on four? Because that’s a bet everyone should be taking a look at.

On paper, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard and Penn will all be improved from last season after retaining the lion’s share of their talents. Yale lost a few key players to post-Ivy graduate years, but it’s also well and truly in the mix. Brown will have to replace a lot of offense and lean heavily on the people’s goalie, Connor Theriault (Mount Hermon, Mass.), and Dartmouth is still trying to build its offense up to score more than 10 goals a game.

It’s going to be a crowded field on selection day — it always is — but if you’re looking for a top-tier schedule that meets all the RPI metrics, Penn has that arena covered. The Quakers have an incredibly strong out-of-conference slate that could really tip the scales if they win most of those tilts.

@TheKyleDevitte
[email protected]

The anti-"Notre Dame" strategy...

au contraire. penn seems to schedule as few teams as possible every year. i wouldn't be surprised if murphy called corrigan for tips on it.

also, devitte looks to have misspelled tournament teams.

Difference being they win those OOC games.

But seriously, Penn does employ a difficult OOC schedule strategy. When it works, it's beautiful. I have my differences with Murphy, but not over the caliber of OOC teams.

ND got robbed because they had a tough OCC schedule and didn’t win any and then lost to tournament caliber conference teams. They did beat Duke and Syracuse last year though.

they didn't get robbed. new committee. there's a new sheriff in town.

Like the teams. It’s a new season. Wipe the slate clean. Beat good teams and don’t lose to bad teams. The committee will be judged on how they do this season. Just like the teams. No need to look backwards.

i thought we were on the same page. alas... there is no judging the committee. that's what last year said. committee rule stands. and from what i understand, while they don't all rotate together, the chair (and others) are on for a few years.

beat good teams and don't lose to bad teams doesn't matter anymore. it's the commitee. #allin

You have it backwards. You do have to beat good teams and not lose to bad ones. Neither ND nor Duke did that last year. The committee rightly called that out and sent them home...where they belonged.

huh.... pull the criteria and make your case for tosu over nd.. i'm interested.

toSu beat Harvard, a tournament team and got in over Notre Dame for the last spot based on head to head. That is “a” case.

confirming you don't know what the criteria are. it's fine, we're in a world where few do, including the coaches and committee. i'm done playing that side. maybe 15 years. yelling at clouds. #allin

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:10 pm
One criteria I do know is don’t lose to all the good teams you play against.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:20 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:10 pm
One criteria I do know is don’t lose to all the good teams you play against.

yes!!! and if the committee followed it, we wouldn't have this thread active!! and how much fun would that be?!?!

p.s. tld's definition of good notwithstanding.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:30 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:20 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:10 pm
One criteria I do know is don’t lose to all the good teams you play against.

yes!!! and if the committee followed it, we wouldn't have this thread active!! and how much fun would that be?!?!

p.s. tld's definition of good notwithstanding.

See link: https://und.com/sports/mlax/schedule/season/2021-22/

Good team = the teams with an L next to the score.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:39 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:30 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:20 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:10 pm
One criteria I do know is don’t lose to all the good teams you play against.

yes!!! and if the committee followed it, we wouldn't have this thread active!! and how much fun would that be?!?!

p.s. tld's definition of good notwithstanding.

See link: https://und.com/sports/mlax/schedule/season/2021-22/

Good team = the teams with an L next to the score.

play all u want. there is no more scoreboard. the acc should def be on notice but everyone else also... don't win your aq, you are on the bubble. conference tourney champs are all the rage.

loved it when they did those cigar smoke-filled backroom champs. what's old is new again!!!