2022 D1 Selection Committee

[RopeUnit]

Brown @ #10 RPI, 1 top 5 W, 3 top 10 W’s, 4 top 20 W’s. If snubbed they’d be the best resume to not get the invite in this era. Would require blatant favoritism to teams with lower RPI’s and worse wins.

[HopFan16]

Brown is getting in. Not really sure why TLD is worried about them but they are absolutely going to make the tournament. May not be hosting though.

[RopeUnit]

Brown is getting in. Not really sure why TLD is worried about them but they are absolutely going to make the tournament. May not be hosting though.

My bet is Brown is flying to Charlottesville

[Typical Lax Dad]

Brown is getting in. Not really sure why TLD is worried about them but they are absolutely going to make the tournament. May not be hosting though.

I hope so.

[Farfromgeneva]

Cornell > Lehigh > Army

And don't forget Cornell > Lehigh > Navy > Army.

Hobart beat Lehigh

[MoralTerpitude]

Interesting that in his Bracketology columns, Foy separates wins by those against top 5, against 6-20, and non-top 20 losses. The committee separates wins by those against top 5, 6-10, 10-20, and non-top 20 losses. As it happens, the ACC has only three total wins against teams ranked 6-10 in the RPI, all against other ACC teams, incidentally. Grouping the wins against all 6-20 teams makes ACC teams look stronger compared to other teams.

Looks like he did list wins against top 6-10 teams in at least 2018, 2019, and 2021. Interestingly, he also listed the criteria for selection in previous years, as he did in the women’s version of bracketology this year… but did not list it in this years’s men’s version, instead writing a paragraph about how subjective the criteria is, and how the membership of the committee rotates every year, so its unpredictable.

[rasheed]

So many here are making such valid points. As a Hoos fan it sucks that the ACC is having such a terrible year as opposed to most years. By so much of the logical criteria i read it seems like UVA will be lucky to get in. Which is weird because I’d place money on UVA v many of the teams being discussed as seeded higher. Then again, fans of every team can probably make the same argument! . I just really want to see Matt Moore play again.

[CU77]

Committee membership is for several years, I think 3, with staggered terms. So there is some continuity.

[wahoomurf]

So many here are making such valid points. As a Hoos fan it sucks that the ACC is having such a terrible year as opposed to most years. By so much of the logical criteria i read it seems like UVA will be lucky to get in. Which is weird because I’d place money on UVA v many of the teams being discussed as seeded higher. Then again, fans of every team can probably make the same argument! . I just really want to see Matt Moore play again.

Me too!

[CU77]

Cornell fans just wanted to see Jeff Teat play again in 2019 ...

[MoralTerpitude]

Committee membership is for several years, I think 3, with staggered terms. So there is some continuity.

Here’s what Foy said:

For more than a decade, I’ve called the NCAA Tournament selection “subjectively objective” or “objectively subjective” because the Committee is tasked to utilize a set of objective criteria to select and seed the field but there is no proscribed system of how to do so, which allows for inconsistent choices year to year, or even within one bracket. How are Top 5 wins valued vs. Top 10 wins vs. Top 20 wins vs. non-Top 20 losses vs. RPI vs. SOS? It’s the Committee’s job to make that choice and, given that the five-person group rotates each year and the individual choices are nuanced and different from one year to the next.

[rasheed]

Cornell fans just wanted to see Jeff Teat play again in 2019 ...

Sure. I get it. Jeff is great. Matt just broke Stanwicks record to become UVAs all-time pts leader and the idea that they could have the opportunity to potentially win a third (which understand there’s more likelihood of The Carpenters reuniting). But still one can dream

[Farfromgeneva]

Committee membership is for several years, I think 3, with staggered terms. So there is some continuity.

You can send your thank you for your seed (Cornell) to Coxe Hall, Pulteney St, Geneva, NY 14456

https://hwsathletics.com/sports/mens-la ... ymond/1755

[CU77]

There is zero chance UVa is not in the tournament, but with the #27 SOS they will likely not get a seed. Too bad they play in such a weak conference!

[HGK]

Of the teams with a legit AL bid resume only 3 have a non top 20 loss - so most have zero. Brown and Yale with just 1 and then Duke with the 3 that have been discussed on this and other threads. I realize Duke’s RPI is high but having 3x the”bad losses” of anyone else being considered has to factor in to the committee’s decision. And should heavily in my view.

[dukelaxfan]

You can count me in on selection reform next year, but I would bet on the Committee not deviating from its criteria to take RPI 14/15 over RPI 7.

All of Duke's losses are top 30. Duke is 2-3 in that category but should get in because it's average RPI win is over 10 points higher than both OSU and Harvard. Average RPI win was on the list of factors with bad losses.

1-10: Duke is 500 with 1 win, Harvard is under 500 but has 2 wins, and OSU has none. I'll give Harvard the nod here. Harvard > Duke > OSU
1-20: Duke is over 500, Harvard and OSU are not. Duke > Harvard and OSU
1-30: Duke is over 500, Harvard and OSU are not. Duke > Harvard and OSU
30+ Harvard has 4 of 8 wins in this category. OSU has 6 of 10. Duke has 4 of 11.

The way to minimize skyscreaming is to put Duke on the road at #8 Brown. There's no chance of this Duke team making the Final 4 that way.

[MoralTerpitude]

I’m ready to be outraged! Let’s go!!!

[Wheels]

Of the teams with a legit AL bid resume only 3 have a non top 20 loss - so most have zero. Brown and Yale with just 1 and then Duke with the 3 that have been discussed on this and other threads. I realize Duke’s RPI is high but having 3x the”bad losses” of anyone else being considered has to factor in to the committee’s decision. And should heavily in my view.

And this should spill over, too, in the evaluation of Notre Dame's record. They played a lot of good teams...and lost to a bunch of them. Their best wins are against Duke. That team with 3 bad losses.

It's all a circular firing squad at this point because of the reliance on RPI. Although, without some sort of metric, the committee will default to "brand names." That's pretty much all we heard from Carc the other day when he opined that ND and Duke couldn't be left out because of, well, they're ND and Duke.

LaxRef's SOR is a better metric than the RPI.

[MoralTerpitude]

This is totally insane.

Carc is so p*ssed.

[10stone5]

Duke is OUT !!