steel_hop wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:22 pm
Can Opener wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:35 pm
Steel Hop -- Thanks for digging in. I think you are saying that the number of guys at the very high end (winning more than 60%) has gone from "double digits" historically to 18 in 2019.
No, I am saying it has gone from 6 and increased by 300% from 2005 to 2019. From 2001 to 2019 there have been 12 individual game seasons where a player has gone over 700 FO win percentage. 9 of those seasons have been in the last 3 years. Between 2001 and 2015 it happened about once every 5 years.
I'm not sure what else needs to be shown that there is an issue that needed to be addressed because if kept going down this path, you would absolutely see some type of alternate possession occur. I don't think a large majority of people want that.
and there were dozens and dozens and dozens in the high 60s probably. how many of those 9 were from 2 guys? more than half? can we skew numbers both ways to make an argument?
here are all the all-time single season stats prior to 2019:
Faceoff Winning Percentage
Player, Team Year Games Won Att. Pct.
TD Ierlan, Albany (NY) 2018 19 359 454 .791
Mark Goers, Towson 1994 12 166 214 .776
Steve Shaw, Delaware 1985 16 185 239 .774
Steve Shaw, Delaware 1986 16 237 318 .750
Trevor Baptiste, Denver 2017 17 297 399 .744
Trevor Baptiste, Denver 2018 17 279 375 .744
Donnie McNichol, North Carolina 1993 16 108 146 .740
Steve Kraus, Virginia 1980 12 150 204 .735
Kevin Massa, Bryant 2013 19 315 434 .726
Alex Smith, Delaware 2007 19 311 430 .723
Chris Cercy, Syracuse 2000 16 253 356 .711
Alex Smith, Delaware 2005 17 251 354 .709
Dylan Protesto, Hartford 2016 18 272 384 .708
TD Ierlan, Albany (NY) 2017 18 323 456 .708
Hunter Forbes, Jacksonville 2018 15 258 367 .703
Will Gural, Brown 2016 18 270 386 .699
Bill Dirrigl, Syracuse 1988 15 274 393 .697
Ray Ignacio, UMBC 1987 13 151 217 .696
Sam Talkow, Boston U. 2016 13 139 200 .695
look at that. 80s, 90s, 2000s, there were some guys that were really good at faceoffs. if the list went down to 65%, you'd probably see a hundred more including from every era. the only thing that's consistent is they change the rules every couple years.
what would the big problem be if they decided... maybe just for a 2 year stretch... if they went by the actual rules and didn't allow guys to withhold?
who wants to bet me if this goes through they'll be changing rules again for faceoffs in another 2 years?