Couple of things.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:40 amCU88 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:47 am In order to remove this stain on our Democracy, we need to figure out where all of these militant rasicist come from.
https://religiondispatches.org/where-we ... schooling/
It is the systematic racism and hate taught in christian schools and the us military.
According to Ingersoll, that connection is highly significant. As she notes, the report provides “a concise framing of the version of American history that gives us the Proud Boys.” And the ideology it represents isn’t a dead letter to America’s Christian nationalists. By now, we should all have seen the footage of members of that white supremacist group bowing in a typical evangelical prayer before engaging in insurrection on January 6, and we should be aware of how they raised money for the effort via the Christian crowdfunding site GiveSendGo. Conservative Christianity has long been the elephant in the room (pun intended) when it comes to discussion of politics in America’s elite public sphere. But if we fail to recognize conservative Christian institutions as sources of radicalization, we will never be able to craft effective policies to counter its toxic influence.Pathetic. This is the bullshirt that keeps us divided, and is the definition of gaslighting an entire group of people.
MDLAXfan sits on a Jesuit board, is an R, and is the furthest thing from a white supremist.
1) I'm glad it's clear I'm not a white supremacist...
2) ICJS is not a Jesuit board, though we do have some Jesuits on the board and active, as well as other Catholics, mainstream Protestants, a few evangelicals...representing the diversity of Christianity. Same sort of diversity represented in Islam and Judaism. Jesuits, at least in my experience, don't tend to be particularly "conservative", probably the main emphasis I've observed is education and rationality as key components of their faith. But I'm no expert on this. Overall, ICJS would be better described as 'liberal' not 'conservative' in the sense that's relevant to inter-religious respect and understanding.
3) IMO, it would be fair to say that we DO see extremism in each of these faith groups most likely fostered and accepted by religious groups that would otherwise be described as the 'most conservative'. It's VERY definitely not required, but there's definitely a confluence of these. That has been true though out much of our long history and remains true today.
4) However, I agree that it's dangerous, and wrong, to paint with an overly broad brush the 'conservative' believer or congregation as necessarily embracing these extremists. They needn't do so, and we DO see Some rejecting extremism, horrified by it. More need to do so.
5) On the other hand, we shouldn't shy away from challenging the 'conservative' Christian denominations and institutions to reject extremists and extremist preachers...the problem, though, with this is that in much of the most conservative groups there is little to no denominational structure, it's much more preacher centric, and fiery talk definitely appeals to some people looking for 'meaning' and 'purpose' and prone to want to blame or damn others...
6) I also think it's very important to continuously reform how we teach and practice our faiths, there's definitely room for a greater emphasis upon the 'love one's neighbor' message (including racial and inter-faith) over the fire and damnation messages, both of which can be found in most faiths... but I'm not convinced that it's fair to say with a broad brush that Christian educational institutions and the US military 'teach systematic racism and hate'...improve, don't damn them.
