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Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm
by youthathletics
The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:41 pm
by MDlaxfan76
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.
Is that supposed to be a response to CU88's post and link about Michael Flynn?
A thoughtful response?
Or something else?

I'm not on the "left" but I don't recall any lefties hating me.
I do seem to draw quite a lot of ire from right wing bigots, though.

But, hey, maybe some lefties do 'hate' me and I'm just too dense to get it...

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:22 am
by NattyBohChamps04
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.
Every time I'm out on my boat with my young kids we see flags saying F*CK BIDEN. Uncensored. Hate against Hillary and the left for more than a half decade. Then hate before that for the black man in office. Remember driving on the highway when a "W The Pesident" sticker jeep cut off some sedan in front of me with a Kerry sticker with middle fingers in '04 for no other discernable reason.

Your comment is like yelling at the British for condemning the Germans for bombing London...

Leftists and us centrist don't hate those not on the left. We hate those who are trying to tear the country apart and follow the idiots who push that narrative for the past 20+ years. You want to hear hate for no real reason, just listen to AM radio and right-wing TV.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:31 am
by youthathletics
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:22 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.
Leftists and us centrist don't hate those not on the left. We hate those who are trying to tear the country apart and follow the idiots who push that narrative for the past 20+ years. You want to hear hate for no real reason, just listen to AM radio and right-wing TV.
That discernment you just applied, is my very point. Often, for simplicity (as my comment was), we lazily make it a binary choice and merely point a finger and the media is intentionally driving the wedge as deep as they can.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:29 am
by MDlaxfan76
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:41 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.
Is that supposed to be a response to CU88's post and link about Michael Flynn?
A thoughtful response?
Or something else?

I'm not on the "left" but I don't recall any lefties hating me.
I do seem to draw quite a lot of ire from right wing bigots, though.

But, hey, maybe some lefties do 'hate' me and I'm just too dense to get it...
I bolded the part where the point fails, IMO.
Otherwise I agree that there's anger on both sides.

But I think we're in a 10:1 situation at a minimum.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:26 am
by Brooklyn
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.

Your heroes on the right might disagree:

2 men charged, 1 with Nazi arm-band, in connection with threats to attack New York synagogue

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/19/us/nyc-j ... ity-arrest



Homophobic Gunman Anderson Lee Aldrich kills 5 at LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs before patrons confront and stop him, police say

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/20/us/color ... -nightclub




Robert Crimo and Nikolas Cruz are also hate filled delusional right wingers who kill with great glee.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:02 am
by Brooklyn
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:41 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.
Is that supposed to be a response to CU88's post and link about Michael Flynn?
A thoughtful response?
Or something else?

I'm not on the "left" but I don't recall any lefties hating me.
I do seem to draw quite a lot of ire from right wing bigots, though.

But, hey, maybe some lefties do 'hate' me and I'm just too dense to get it...

Typically, to right wingers any form of disagreement, no matter how polite or how truthful it might be, is always hate. However, for years they have given themselves the right to criticize, attack, insult, and threaten anyone who dares to disagree with them. To these delusionals when they do it, it's not hate but is "free speech".

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:00 am
by Farfromgeneva
youthathletics wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:31 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:22 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.
Leftists and us centrist don't hate those not on the left. We hate those who are trying to tear the country apart and follow the idiots who push that narrative for the past 20+ years. You want to hear hate for no real reason, just listen to AM radio and right-wing TV.
That discernment you just applied, is my very point. Often, for simplicity (as my comment was), we lazily make it a binary choice and merely point a finger and the media is intentionally driving the wedge as deep as they can.
Well some things are binary and not subject to a spectrum. Suggesting toehewise is reductive like suggesting TAATs all the time .

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:01 am
by Farfromgeneva
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:41 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.
Is that supposed to be a response to CU88's post and link about Michael Flynn?
A thoughtful response?
Or something else?

I'm not on the "left" but I don't recall any lefties hating me.
I do seem to draw quite a lot of ire from right wing bigots, though.

But, hey, maybe some lefties do 'hate' me and I'm just too dense to get it...

Typically, to right wingers any form of disagreement, no matter how polite or how truthful it might be, is always hate. However, for years they have given themselves the right to criticize, attack, insult, and threaten anyone who dares to disagree with them. To these delusionals when they do it, it's not hate but is "free speech".
You do the same thing often.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:03 am
by Farfromgeneva
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:29 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:41 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:29 pm The next wave of hate has already arrived....in the form of the left vs all those not on the left.
Is that supposed to be a response to CU88's post and link about Michael Flynn?
A thoughtful response?
Or something else?

I'm not on the "left" but I don't recall any lefties hating me.
I do seem to draw quite a lot of ire from right wing bigots, though.

But, hey, maybe some lefties do 'hate' me and I'm just too dense to get it...
I bolded the part where the point fails, IMO.
Otherwise I agree that there's anger on both sides.

But I think we're in a 10:1 situation at a minimum.
Which, directionally, makes it EFFECTIVELY binary.

Pointing out one exception out of a million doesnt mean a generalization isn’t applicable. That’s the same methodology employed by scumbag political strategists who flood the box with lies and one grain of truth the size of the seed left at the end of the Neverending story which Bastion has to work with to rebuild his fantasy world.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:47 am
by Brooklyn
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:01 am
You do the same thing often.

LOL. Care to give some examples? After all, I do not recall getting Penalty Box timeouts here unlike your pals from the right.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:13 am
by elonmuskrockefeller
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:47 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:01 am
You do the same thing often.

LOL. Care to give some examples? After all, I do not recall getting Penalty Box timeouts here unlike your pals from the right.



Brooklyn tends to be a very honest broker from the left. I'd actually say you are more of a traditional liberal, rather than what we call a liberal today, in that you still believe in free speech, less international meddling, less government intrusion in one's personal life, etc... Actually, it's interesting you are this way given your previous career. I'd be curious to hear how you came to your beliefs, with respect to what you did in life?

While I am on it, would you tell the board if you believe that 'Biden is hiring 87,000 IRS agents'? Is that accurate of a misinterpretation of the facts?

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:57 am
by Brooklyn
elonmuskrockefeller wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:13 am
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:47 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:01 am
You do the same thing often.

LOL. Care to give some examples? After all, I do not recall getting Penalty Box timeouts here unlike your pals from the right.



Brooklyn tends to be a very honest broker from the left. I'd actually say you are more of a traditional liberal, rather than what we call a liberal today, in that you still believe in free speech, less international meddling, less government intrusion in one's personal life, etc... Actually, it's interesting you are this way given your previous career. I'd be curious to hear how you came to your beliefs, with respect to what you did in life?

While I am on it, would you tell the board if you believe that 'Biden is hiring 87,000 IRS agents'? Is that accurate of a misinterpretation of the facts?


Previously, I have mentioned that never once have I ever called myself a "liberal". Only right wingers have. When I have stood up for free speech, for less government intervention in peoples lives, the elimination of the income tax, and an end to foreign interventionism, all of a sudden, the right wing critics disappear. You are the only right winger to ever credit me for standing up for principle.

How did I come to my beliefs?

As I have mentioned in the past, I am a literary scholar with a law degree. While I have quite a lot of education, won numerous academic awards, published a handful of articles in accounting trade publications, and tendered amicus curiae on a few court cases, sad to say I never made the type of money others similarly educated have made. Heck, it's been a tough life but you deal with the cards given you. Over the years my hobby has been the study of American history. I have spent many an hour reading many books on our Founding Fathers and the legislative history up to the creation of the US Constitution. One of the things that interest me the most is how those early principles were interpreted and applied by political leaders over the years. First and foremost was Governor De Witt Clinton of NY. Generally acknowledged as the greatest governor in US history. His works were written about by John Quincy Adams and used as the basis for FDR's New Deal. While the right wing called those reforms "socialism" and "Marxism", the fact remains that such ideals were invented and applied by our Founders before Marx was born.

What's the bottom line to all this?

Easy: make America first. Refrain from foreign intervention, no military overseas. Volunteer service, not conscription. Build up the infrastructure. Consumption taxes, not income taxes. Government to serve, not enslave. Founding Father Alexander Hamilton was a New Yorker. When he walked the streets of the City he never encountered a police officer because the City did not have a police system until 20 years after his death. Had he seen the cops abuse people he would have been outraged because at no point in his life did he ever contemplate the idea of government abusing anyone. Any real conservative, any person of genuine principle would uphold his ideals and those of our Founding Fathers. Those are where I got my ideas. Not from loony bin reports on AM radio, television evangelists, or Fox networks. All one need do is to open up a history book and they will see that these principles are not "Marxist", not liberal, not conservative, not anything other than "realism". That's what I believe in.



As for the mythic "hiring" of 87,000 IRS agents, there are plenty of online articles that refute that myth. Example: https://time.com/6204928/irs-87000-agen ... eck-biden/

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:29 am
by elonmuskrockefeller
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:57 am
elonmuskrockefeller wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:13 am
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:47 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:01 am
You do the same thing often.

LOL. Care to give some examples? After all, I do not recall getting Penalty Box timeouts here unlike your pals from the right.



Brooklyn tends to be a very honest broker from the left. I'd actually say you are more of a traditional liberal, rather than what we call a liberal today, in that you still believe in free speech, less international meddling, less government intrusion in one's personal life, etc... Actually, it's interesting you are this way given your previous career. I'd be curious to hear how you came to your beliefs, with respect to what you did in life?

While I am on it, would you tell the board if you believe that 'Biden is hiring 87,000 IRS agents'? Is that accurate of a misinterpretation of the facts?


Previously, I have mentioned that never once have I ever called myself a "liberal". Only right wingers have. When I have stood up for free speech, for less government intervention in peoples lives, the elimination of the income tax, and an end to foreign interventionism, all of a sudden, the right wing critics disappear. You are the only right winger to ever credit me for standing up for principle.

How did I come to my beliefs?

As I have mentioned in the past, I am a literary scholar with a law degree. While I have quite a lot of education, won numerous academic awards, published a handful of articles in accounting trade publications, and tendered amicus curiae on a few court cases, sad to say I never made the type of money others similarly educated have made. Heck, it's been a tough life but you deal with the cards given you. Over the years my hobby has been the study of American history. I have spent many an hour reading many books on our Founding Fathers and the legislative history up to the creation of the US Constitution. One of the things that interest me the most is how those early principles were interpreted and applied by political leaders over the years. First and foremost was Governor De Witt Clinton of NY. Generally acknowledged as the greatest governor in US history. His works were written about by John Quincy Adams and used as the basis for FDR's New Deal. While the right wing called those reforms "socialism" and "Marxism", the fact remains that such ideals were invented and applied by our Founders before Marx was born.

What's the bottom line to all this?

Easy: make America first. Refrain from foreign intervention, no military overseas. Volunteer service, not conscription. Build up the infrastructure. Consumption taxes, not income taxes. Government to serve, not enslave. Founding Father Alexander Hamilton was a New Yorker. When he walked the streets of the City he never encountered a police officer because the City did not have a police system until 20 years after his death. Had he seen the cops abuse people he would have been outraged because at no point in his life did he ever contemplate the idea of government abusing anyone. Any real conservative, any person of genuine principle would uphold his ideals and those of our Founding Fathers. Those are where I got my ideas. Not from loony bin reports on AM radio, television evangelists, or Fox networks. All one need do is to open up a history book and they will see that these principles are not "Marxist", not liberal, not conservative, not anything other than "realism". That's what I believe in.



As for the mythic "hiring" of 87,000 IRS agents, there are plenty of online articles that refute that myth. Example: https://time.com/6204928/irs-87000-agen ... eck-biden/


This is really good. Thanks. I have far more in common with you as described above, than what one might normally assume. I agree with everything you wrote.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:35 am
by Brooklyn
elonmuskrockefeller wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:29 am
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:57 am


This is really good. Thanks. I have far more in common with you as described above, than what one might normally assume. I agree with everything you wrote.

Thanks.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:39 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:47 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:01 am
You do the same thing often.

LOL. Care to give some examples? After all, I do not recall getting Penalty Box timeouts here unlike your pals from the right.
Who are my pals to the right? Lots of claims no evidence just specious arguments.

Your pals to the right is intended to mean what exactly? Care to give evidence of who that is???

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Now let me roll out my reume, real world experience. Foolish.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:10 pm
by Brooklyn
Note the differences in replies from Elon and from Far. One is coherent and rational. The other emotional and incoherent.

It is sad that so many right wingers here do not have the same vision or interpretive skills that Elon has. Obviously he takes the time to read and reflect upon what he reads. Because of their limitations, the others succumb to the delusionalism of ultra right wing cultism with its prejudices and hate. I have posted the truths Elon read quite a number of times over the years. But all too often the delusionalists read into rather than to read the actual posts. It's all a matter of blindness and mindlessness brought on by hate and cultish devotion to the false god of right wing delusionalism. Very sad, indeed.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:12 pm
by NattyBohChamps04
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:10 pm Note the differences in replies from Elon and from Far. One is coherent and rational. The other emotional and incoherent.

It is sad that so many right wingers here do not have the same vision or interpretive skills that Elon has. Obviously he takes the time to read and reflect upon what he reads. Because of their limitations, the others succumb to the delusionalism of ultra right wing cultism with its prejudices and hate. I have posted the truths Elon read quite a number of times over the years. But all too often the delusionalists read into rather than to read the actual posts. It's all a matter of blindness and mindlessness brought on by hate and cultish devotion to the false god of right wing delusionalism. Very sad, indeed.
Whatchu smokin tonight bro? Can you share?

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:06 am
by PizzaSnake
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:10 pm Note the differences in replies from Elon and from Far. One is coherent and rational. The other emotional and incoherent.

It is sad that so many right wingers here do not have the same vision or interpretive skills that Elon has. Obviously he takes the time to read and reflect upon what he reads. Because of their limitations, the others succumb to the delusionalism of ultra right wing cultism with its prejudices and hate. I have posted the truths Elon read quite a number of times over the years. But all too often the delusionalists read into rather than to read the actual posts. It's all a matter of blindness and mindlessness brought on by hate and cultish devotion to the false god of right wing delusionalism. Very sad, indeed.
Strange bedfellows, you and Ellie.

Re: CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:18 am
by Brooklyn
Natty,

Whatchu smokin tonight bro? Can you share?

Sorry to disappoint you but am a teetotaler and do not partake of the spirits or other intoxicants like certain delusionals do. ;)

PizzaSnake wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:06 am
Strange bedfellows, you and Ellie.

LOL. Been on this forum and LP for a long time. Still waiting for the day that the delusional right wing finally proves me wrong. Will happily wait a little longer ...