Progressive Ideology

[kramerica.inc]

I got it, but was referring to others without the sarcasm font on.

Hill did resign. But no need to move on. This thread is about progressive ideology. And Katie was one of the "young risers" shaping democratic, progressive ideology.

I guess she showed that creepy sexually abusive relationships outside of marriages aren't just for men like Clinton anymore. How very woke and progressive of her!

"Shaping democratic progressive ideology" -- hardly. More like she was doing her job well as a freshman congresswomen, regardless of her sexual proclivities.

Doing her job well. Except for the whole abuse of power thing, right?

There are multiple examples of this exact same thing over at the Me Too, thread.

Sexual proclivities do not include abuse of power. Who knows, was she a "Weinstein in training?"





Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? If I knew that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

How did she abuse her power sparky? Exactly what did she do? What you have is YOU assume she abused her power. The fact that a relationship exists/existed does not prove abuse of power. Has the "girl friend" complained? Has she even spoken? Maybe Hill did abuse her power, but you have ZERO PROOF.

Again, catch up gramps:

“I know that even a consensual relationship with a subordinate is inappropriate, but I still allowed it to happen despite my better judgment,” Hill wrote in a letter to her constituents.

[MDlaxfan76]

I got it, but was referring to others without the sarcasm font on.

Hill did resign. But no need to move on. This thread is about progressive ideology. And Katie was one of the "young risers" shaping democratic, progressive ideology.

I guess she showed that creepy sexually abusive relationships outside of marriages aren't just for men like Clinton anymore. How very woke and progressive of her!

"Shaping democratic progressive ideology" -- hardly. More like she was doing her job well as a freshman congresswomen, regardless of her sexual proclivities.

Doing her job well. Except for the whole abuse of power thing, right?

There are multiple examples of this exact same thing over at the Me Too, thread.

Sexual proclivities do not include abuse of power. Who knows, was she a "Weinstein in training?"





Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? If I knew that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

How did she abuse her power sparky? Exactly what did she do? What you have is YOU assume she abused her power. The fact that a relationship exists/existed does not prove abuse of power. Has the "girl friend" complained? Has she even spoken? Maybe Hill did abuse her power, but you have ZERO PROOF.

Again, catch up gramps:

“I know that even a consensual relationship with a subordinate is inappropriate, but I still allowed it to happen despite my better judgment,” Hill wrote in a letter to her constituents.

As an older fellow myself, how about you lay off the "gramps" stuff, Kram.
Not necessary.

But just from following posts, I'd put my $ on '72 in a mental contest with a whole bunch of posters.

Absolutely it was "inappropriate".
Not illegal, nor even against the rule of Congress (campaign).
But darn inappropriate.

Show us that someone actually felt harassed, coerced, if you want to claim an actual abuse, please.

[jhu72]

I got it, but was referring to others without the sarcasm font on.

Hill did resign. But no need to move on. This thread is about progressive ideology. And Katie was one of the "young risers" shaping democratic, progressive ideology.

I guess she showed that creepy sexually abusive relationships outside of marriages aren't just for men like Clinton anymore. How very woke and progressive of her!

"Shaping democratic progressive ideology" -- hardly. More like she was doing her job well as a freshman congresswomen, regardless of her sexual proclivities.

Doing her job well. Except for the whole abuse of power thing, right?

There are multiple examples of this exact same thing over at the Me Too, thread.

Sexual proclivities do not include abuse of power. Who knows, was she a "Weinstein in training?"





Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? If I knew that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

How did she abuse her power sparky? Exactly what did she do? What you have is YOU assume she abused her power. The fact that a relationship exists/existed does not prove abuse of power. Has the "girl friend" complained? Has she even spoken? Maybe Hill did abuse her power, but you have ZERO PROOF.

Again, catch up gramps:

“I know that even a consensual relationship with a subordinate is inappropriate, but I still allowed it to happen despite my better judgment,” Hill wrote in a letter to her constituents.

Inappropriate, based on the organization she belonged to, you bet. But only because of appearance. Until you examine the details of the relationship, abuse cannot be determined. You still got ZIP, NADA, NOTHING! There is not even the wiff of abuse at this point. How about get back to me if some actual abuse occurs. Your faux outrage isn't fooling anyone.

[jhu72]

So today, a boss and a subordinate get married. What is the appropriate societal response? Stoning? Neutering one, both? Death? This Brave New World.

[Peter Brown]

So today, a boss and a subordinate get married. What is the appropriate societal response? Stoning? Neutering one, both? Death? This Brave New World.

The bare fact you make light of what for most is an awful, life-altering, no-way-out, imbalanced power-dynamic sexual relationship should (but likely will not) make you stop and reset. For the few who get 'married' out of the equation, countless more can never forget the terrible choices they were forced to take.

[Peter Brown]

I look every morning now for the latest 'outrage' among my friends, and today's involve the Washington Nationals.

The Nats, recent WS Champs, visited the White House yesterday. Ryan Zimmerman (Wahoo) had some kind words for Trump and Kurt Suzuki (4th generation Japanese American) put on a MAGA hat.

Naturally, the Twitter Left went into hyperdrive. They demand that Suzuki be kicked off the team, as well as Zimmerman. Now, you can argue that people like Bill Palmer and Norm Ornstein don't speak for the entire Democratic Party, and I'd agree. But there is certainly enough there there to beg the question: do any of the resident Democrats here at FanLax feel about Suzuki and Zimmerman the way a growing and very large Twitter Left does? Is the MAGA hat a defining experience for you whereby if you saw it on someone you would be compelled to say something to them?

I am genuinely curious.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I look every morning now for the latest 'outrage' among my friends, and today's involve the Washington Nationals.

The Nats, recent WS Champs, visited the White House yesterday. Ryan Zimmerman (Wahoo) had some kind words for Trump and Kurt Suzuki (4th generation Japanese American) put on a MAGA hat.

Naturally, the Twitter Left went into hyperdrive. They demand that Suzuki be kicked off the team, as well as Zimmerman. Now, you can argue that people like Bill Palmer and Norm Ornstein don't speak for the entire Democratic Party, and I'd agree. But there is certainly enough there there to beg the question: do any of the resident Democrats here at FanLax feel about Suzuki and Zimmerman the way a growing and very large Twitter Left does? Is the MAGA hat a defining experience for you whereby if you saw it on someone you would be compelled to say something to them?

I am genuinely curious.

Who cares. I have not seen a single inning of baseball in 9 years.

[Peter Brown]

I look every morning now for the latest 'outrage' among my friends, and today's involve the Washington Nationals.

The Nats, recent WS Champs, visited the White House yesterday. Ryan Zimmerman (Wahoo) had some kind words for Trump and Kurt Suzuki (4th generation Japanese American) put on a MAGA hat.

Naturally, the Twitter Left went into hyperdrive. They demand that Suzuki be kicked off the team, as well as Zimmerman. Now, you can argue that people like Bill Palmer and Norm Ornstein don't speak for the entire Democratic Party, and I'd agree. But there is certainly enough there there to beg the question: do any of the resident Democrats here at FanLax feel about Suzuki and Zimmerman the way a growing and very large Twitter Left does? Is the MAGA hat a defining experience for you whereby if you saw it on someone you would be compelled to say something to them?

I am genuinely curious.

Who cares. I have not seen a single inning of baseball in 9 years.

Would it bother you if someone wore a MAGA hat?

[Typical Lax Dad]

I look every morning now for the latest 'outrage' among my friends, and today's involve the Washington Nationals.

The Nats, recent WS Champs, visited the White House yesterday. Ryan Zimmerman (Wahoo) had some kind words for Trump and Kurt Suzuki (4th generation Japanese American) put on a MAGA hat.

Naturally, the Twitter Left went into hyperdrive. They demand that Suzuki be kicked off the team, as well as Zimmerman. Now, you can argue that people like Bill Palmer and Norm Ornstein don't speak for the entire Democratic Party, and I'd agree. But there is certainly enough there there to beg the question: do any of the resident Democrats here at FanLax feel about Suzuki and Zimmerman the way a growing and very large Twitter Left does? Is the MAGA hat a defining experience for you whereby if you saw it on someone you would be compelled to say something to them?

I am genuinely curious.

Who cares. I have not seen a single inning of baseball in 9 years.

Would it bother you if someone wore a MAGA hat?

I don't care. I was mistaken on baseball. The last game I saw was at Yankee stadium. 3 or 4 rows behind Kate Upton. A line of teenage boys trying to wave at her..... best part of the game.

[jhu72]

So today, a boss and a subordinate get married. What is the appropriate societal response? Stoning? Neutering one, both? Death? This Brave New World.

The bare fact you make light of what for most is an awful, life-altering, no-way-out, imbalanced power-dynamic sexual relationship should (but likely will not) make you stop and reset. For the few who get 'married' out of the equation, countless more can never forget the terrible choices they were forced to take.

Oh the outrage.

[jhu72]

I look every morning now for the latest 'outrage' among my friends, and today's involve the Washington Nationals.

The Nats, recent WS Champs, visited the White House yesterday. Ryan Zimmerman (Wahoo) had some kind words for Trump and Kurt Suzuki (4th generation Japanese American) put on a MAGA hat.

Naturally, the Twitter Left went into hyperdrive. They demand that Suzuki be kicked off the team, as well as Zimmerman. Now, you can argue that people like Bill Palmer and Norm Ornstein don't speak for the entire Democratic Party, and I'd agree. But there is certainly enough there there to beg the question: do any of the resident Democrats here at FanLax feel about Suzuki and Zimmerman the way a growing and very large Twitter Left does? Is the MAGA hat a defining experience for you whereby if you saw it on someone you would be compelled to say something to them?

I am genuinely curious.

Who cares. I have not seen a single inning of baseball in 9 years.

Would it bother you if someone wore a MAGA hat?

I don't care. I was mistaken on baseball. The last game I saw was at Yankee stadium. 3 or 4 rows behind Kate Upton. A line of teenage boys trying to wave at her..... best part of the game.

Those things look more like soccer balls.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I look every morning now for the latest 'outrage' among my friends, and today's involve the Washington Nationals.

The Nats, recent WS Champs, visited the White House yesterday. Ryan Zimmerman (Wahoo) had some kind words for Trump and Kurt Suzuki (4th generation Japanese American) put on a MAGA hat.

Naturally, the Twitter Left went into hyperdrive. They demand that Suzuki be kicked off the team, as well as Zimmerman. Now, you can argue that people like Bill Palmer and Norm Ornstein don't speak for the entire Democratic Party, and I'd agree. But there is certainly enough there there to beg the question: do any of the resident Democrats here at FanLax feel about Suzuki and Zimmerman the way a growing and very large Twitter Left does? Is the MAGA hat a defining experience for you whereby if you saw it on someone you would be compelled to say something to them?

I am genuinely curious.

Who cares. I have not seen a single inning of baseball in 9 years.

Would it bother you if someone wore a MAGA hat?

I don't care. I was mistaken on baseball. The last game I saw was at Yankee stadium. 3 or 4 rows behind Kate Upton. A line of teenage boys trying to wave at her..... best part of the game.

Those things look more like soccer balls.

Size 4. I was thirsty!

[DMac]

If I saw someone wearing a MAGA hat I'd figure he/she was being passively antagonistic and I'd likely avoid him/her. This person knows what comes with wearing that hat, and I'm not going to get sucked into a political conversation with him/her. Two words into the conversation I'd let him/her know that in no uncertain terms. Aint happenin'.
How 'bout an NRA hat? What do you think is going to happen when you go out in that hat?
When in Rome, do as the Romans...how often do you figure Suzuki wears that MAGA hat when he's not visiting with Prez POS?

[Typical Lax Dad]

If I saw someone wearing a MAGA hat I'd figure he/she was being passively antagonistic and I'd likely avoid him/her. This person knows what comes with wearing that hat, and I'm not going to get sucked into a political conversation with him/her. Two words into the conversation I'd let him/her know that in no uncertain terms. Aint happenin'.
How 'bout an NRA hat? What do you think is going to happen when you go out in that hat?
When in Rome, do as the Romans...how often do you figure Suzuki wears that MAGA hat when he's not visiting with Prez POS?

You should see the parade of guys with MAGA hats at the National Portrait Gallery taking photos in front of the Obama portraits.

[DMac]

Big surprise there. Wonder how many of them wander down to the spurs specialist's office, Dr. Bunion, to get a picture of themselves with him in their MAGA hats?

[Peter Brown]

I live in a part of the US (Florida) that's both military and MAGA.

Florida has the 2nd highest % of enlisted military to population; Georgia (1st) has 0.92 enlistees per 1,000 adults.

The four states with the lowest averages are Vermont, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts (Northeast), with 0.36 enlistees per 1,000 adults.

It is probably a function of where we live how we view a MAGA hat.

[SCLaxAttack]

So today, a boss and a subordinate get married. What is the appropriate societal response? Stoning? Neutering one, both? Death? This Brave New World.

The bare fact you make light of what for most is an awful, life-altering, no-way-out, imbalanced power-dynamic sexual relationship should (but likely will not) make you stop and reset. For the few who get 'married' out of the equation, countless more can never forget the terrible choices they were forced to take.

Oh the outrage.

I’ll remember to quote you when you come up with the next BS thing you’re complaining about.

One of the first things I was taught by my first boss - “Don’t $_it where you eat.” It was appropriate then and it’s appropriate now.

The no dating rule should apply across the board and not just between management and staff. Too many dynamics can occur within and after a relationship that can negatively affect an workplace and not just the two people directly involved.

[a fan]

Someone beat JHU72 to that punch.

Or do you not remember "so what? That's not illegal?"

[DMac]

https://dailycaller.com/2017/03/01/excl ... ing-worse/

[jhu72]

So today, a boss and a subordinate get married. What is the appropriate societal response? Stoning? Neutering one, both? Death? This Brave New World.

The bare fact you make light of what for most is an awful, life-altering, no-way-out, imbalanced power-dynamic sexual relationship should (but likely will not) make you stop and reset. For the few who get 'married' out of the equation, countless more can never forget the terrible choices they were forced to take.

Oh the outrage.

I’ll remember to quote you when you come up with the next BS thing you’re complaining about.

One of the first things I was taught by my first boss - “Don’t $_it where you eat.” It was appropriate then and it’s appropriate now.

The no dating rule should apply across the board and not just between management and staff. Too many dynamics can occur within and after a relationship that can negatively affect an workplace and not just the two people directly involved.

Make the prohibition global, makes a lot more sense, fairer. However, the enforcement is akin to a law prohibiting bumble bees from crossing state lines. It is a nightmare for the employer - practically - it is a don't get caught rule, mostly ignored by individuals and likely to negatively impact the bottom line in my experience. Two of the best most productive employees I have ever had, were married to each other (common law). They worked in different parts of the company. Never a real problem with either. Shame if a company has a rule that would prohibit employing both.

These kinds of rules disrespect "innocent people" in an attempt to address a problem or set of problems that may lead to issues among a small subset of "immoral" individuals. These rules are just an attempt to keep management from having to address actual hard issues when situations arise.

As for Peanut Butters outrage, I'll save mine for an occasion when there is actual claimed abuse, not some made up by an outside observer, what could have been that didn't actually take place.