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foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:50 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:44 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:35 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:22 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:28 pm No one here is defending Hill.


You're not serious, right?

:shock:
Still waiting for those texts....

https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/201 ... ict-claims
Thanks. Figure that was your source.


What is it with liberals anymore? I mean seriously dude, you can't read RedState (which I have not read but I googled "Katie Hill Texts" and that was what came up)? Do you want other sources repeating the same exact evidence? Would that make you happy? I know it wouldn't because liberals these days are really stretching to avoid ownership and consistency. :roll:
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:53 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:50 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:44 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:35 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:22 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:28 pm No one here is defending Hill.


You're not serious, right?

:shock:
Still waiting for those texts....

https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/201 ... ict-claims
Thanks. Figure that was your source.


What is it with liberals anymore? I mean seriously dude, you can't read RedState (which I have not read but I googled "Katie Hill Texts" and that was what came up)? Do you want other sources repeating the same exact evidence? Would that make you happy? I know it wouldn't because liberals these days are really stretching to avoid ownership and consistency. :roll:
Easy, you might find yourself backtracking...since you didn't do any research.

1. Article clearly says "ALLEGED"...OVER AND OVER

2. RedState is a conservative blog

3. The author is deputy managing editor.

4. "Van Laar’s Republican leanings are no secret. In November of last year, she wrote an op-ed supporting Knight in his race against Hill, and in July praised a Republican who had considered running against Hill next year. But neither RedState nor The Daily Mail disclosed that Van Laar was a longtime Republican consultant who worked for Republicans that opposed Hill, Mediaite reports."

I tried that search....only RedState comes up.

Dude, I don't see them as anything other then a tabloid rag pandering to right wing conspiracies.
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:04 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:53 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:50 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:44 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:35 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:22 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:28 pm No one here is defending Hill.


You're not serious, right?

:shock:
Still waiting for those texts....

https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/201 ... ict-claims
Thanks. Figure that was your source.


What is it with liberals anymore? I mean seriously dude, you can't read RedState (which I have not read but I googled "Katie Hill Texts" and that was what came up)? Do you want other sources repeating the same exact evidence? Would that make you happy? I know it wouldn't because liberals these days are really stretching to avoid ownership and consistency. :roll:
Easy, you might find yourself backtracking...since you didn't do any research.

1. Article clearly says "ALLEGED"...OVER AND OVER

2. RedState is a conservative blog

3. The author is deputy managing editor.

4. "Van Laar’s Republican leanings are no secret. In November of last year, she wrote an op-ed supporting Knight in his race against Hill, and in July praised a Republican who had considered running against Hill next year. But neither RedState nor The Daily Mail disclosed that Van Laar was a longtime Republican consultant who worked for Republicans that opposed Hill, Mediaite reports."

I tried that search....only RedState comes up.

Dude, I don't see them as anything other then a tabloid rag pandering to right wing conspiracies.


Who cares what the author's political leanings are? Or the website's? It's the underlying 'crime'
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:51 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:38 pm I got it, but was referring to others without the sarcasm font on.

Hill did resign. But no need to move on. This thread is about progressive ideology. And Katie was one of the "young risers" shaping democratic, progressive ideology.

I guess she showed that creepy sexually abusive relationships outside of marriages aren't just for men like Clinton anymore. How very woke and progressive of her!

:lol:

"Shaping democratic progressive ideology" -- hardly. :lol: More like she was doing her job well as a freshman congresswomen, regardless of her sexual proclivities.
Doing her job well. Except for the whole abuse of power thing, right?

There are multiple examples of this exact same thing over at the Me Too, thread.

Sexual proclivities do not include abuse of power. Who knows, was she a "Weinstein in training?"

:?:



Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? If I knew that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

:lol:
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:15 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:51 am
She never said "she felt" she needed to resign because of revenge porn. She said she resigned because she didn't want to be a distraction, it would only get worse.
:lol:
You have a very benevolent and not-unexpected view of the young Democrat's (lack of) ego, and a further not-unexpected waving of the hand at grossly unethical power dynamics in sexual relationships, provided the offender is a Democrat. If you think Katie resigned from her life's goal of being a congresswoman because 'she didn't want to be a distraction', you must be her mom. Most congresspeople who resign resign only when and because the s is about to hit the fan; they actually love being 'distractions', anything for cameras.

But, I suspect you are smarter than this and are merely playing your expected partisan part. A hunch says had this been Jim Jordan with two female staffers, you'd be in a frenzied mob rush to execute him.

If you can't see or won't admit what happened, and then understand why she had no choice but to resign, you're obviously free to keep the proverbial head in the sand.

Meanwhile, on Planet Gravity...
.:lol:. ...look at how Gym Jordan is still being slandered for not knowing what went on in the team doctor's office over 3 decades ago.
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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old salt wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:37 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:15 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:51 am
She never said "she felt" she needed to resign because of revenge porn. She said she resigned because she didn't want to be a distraction, it would only get worse.
:lol:
You have a very benevolent and not-unexpected view of the young Democrat's (lack of) ego, and a further not-unexpected waving of the hand at grossly unethical power dynamics in sexual relationships, provided the offender is a Democrat. If you think Katie resigned from her life's goal of being a congresswoman because 'she didn't want to be a distraction', you must be her mom. Most congresspeople who resign resign only when and because the s is about to hit the fan; they actually love being 'distractions', anything for cameras.

But, I suspect you are smarter than this and are merely playing your expected partisan part. A hunch says had this been Jim Jordan with two female staffers, you'd be in a frenzied mob rush to execute him.

If you can't see or won't admit what happened, and then understand why she had no choice but to resign, you're obviously free to keep the proverbial head in the sand.

Meanwhile, on Planet Gravity...
.:lol:. ...look at how Gym Jordan is still being slandered for not knowing what went on in the team doctor's office over 3 decades ago.
Old Gym is lying today. That’s the point.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wr ... e-n1016926

Joe Pa didn’t know what Sandusky was doing either.
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:43 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:37 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:15 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:51 am
She never said "she felt" she needed to resign because of revenge porn. She said she resigned because she didn't want to be a distraction, it would only get worse.
:lol:
You have a very benevolent and not-unexpected view of the young Democrat's (lack of) ego, and a further not-unexpected waving of the hand at grossly unethical power dynamics in sexual relationships, provided the offender is a Democrat. If you think Katie resigned from her life's goal of being a congresswoman because 'she didn't want to be a distraction', you must be her mom. Most congresspeople who resign resign only when and because the s is about to hit the fan; they actually love being 'distractions', anything for cameras.

But, I suspect you are smarter than this and are merely playing your expected partisan part. A hunch says had this been Jim Jordan with two female staffers, you'd be in a frenzied mob rush to execute him.

If you can't see or won't admit what happened, and then understand why she had no choice but to resign, you're obviously free to keep the proverbial head in the sand.

Meanwhile, on Planet Gravity...
.:lol:. ...look at how Gym Jordan is still being slandered for not knowing what went on in the team doctor's office over 3 decades ago.
Old Gym is lying today. That’s the point.
How do you know that ? Did you have boyhood friends from Ohio in the shower room ?
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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old salt wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:43 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:37 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:15 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:51 am
She never said "she felt" she needed to resign because of revenge porn. She said she resigned because she didn't want to be a distraction, it would only get worse.
:lol:
You have a very benevolent and not-unexpected view of the young Democrat's (lack of) ego, and a further not-unexpected waving of the hand at grossly unethical power dynamics in sexual relationships, provided the offender is a Democrat. If you think Katie resigned from her life's goal of being a congresswoman because 'she didn't want to be a distraction', you must be her mom. Most congresspeople who resign resign only when and because the s is about to hit the fan; they actually love being 'distractions', anything for cameras.

But, I suspect you are smarter than this and are merely playing your expected partisan part. A hunch says had this been Jim Jordan with two female staffers, you'd be in a frenzied mob rush to execute him.

If you can't see or won't admit what happened, and then understand why she had no choice but to resign, you're obviously free to keep the proverbial head in the sand.

Meanwhile, on Planet Gravity...
.:lol:. ...look at how Gym Jordan is still being slandered for not knowing what went on in the team doctor's office over 3 decades ago.
Old Gym is lying today. That’s the point.
How do you know that ? Did you have boyhood friends from Ohio in the shower room ?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:12 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:04 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:53 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:50 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:44 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:35 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:22 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:28 pm No one here is defending Hill.


You're not serious, right?

:shock:
Still waiting for those texts....

https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/201 ... ict-claims
Thanks. Figure that was your source.


What is it with liberals anymore? I mean seriously dude, you can't read RedState (which I have not read but I googled "Katie Hill Texts" and that was what came up)? Do you want other sources repeating the same exact evidence? Would that make you happy? I know it wouldn't because liberals these days are really stretching to avoid ownership and consistency. :roll:
Easy, you might find yourself backtracking...since you didn't do any research.

1. Article clearly says "ALLEGED"...OVER AND OVER

2. RedState is a conservative blog

3. The author is deputy managing editor.

4. "Van Laar’s Republican leanings are no secret. In November of last year, she wrote an op-ed supporting Knight in his race against Hill, and in July praised a Republican who had considered running against Hill next year. But neither RedState nor The Daily Mail disclosed that Van Laar was a longtime Republican consultant who worked for Republicans that opposed Hill, Mediaite reports."

I tried that search....only RedState comes up.

Dude, I don't see them as anything other then a tabloid rag pandering to right wing conspiracies.


Who cares what the author's political leanings are? Or the website's? It's the underlying 'crime'
There is no substance to the alleged underlying crime. You get that fact, right?

Not a single other credible source to confirm.
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Gymmy Jordan Didn’t see anything but going to uncover the deep state and find Hillary’s server:

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/ ... osu-doctor
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kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:29 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:51 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:38 pm I got it, but was referring to others without the sarcasm font on.

Hill did resign. But no need to move on. This thread is about progressive ideology. And Katie was one of the "young risers" shaping democratic, progressive ideology.

I guess she showed that creepy sexually abusive relationships outside of marriages aren't just for men like Clinton anymore. How very woke and progressive of her!

:lol:

"Shaping democratic progressive ideology" -- hardly. :lol: More like she was doing her job well as a freshman congresswomen, regardless of her sexual proclivities.
Doing her job well. Except for the whole abuse of power thing, right?

There are multiple examples of this exact same thing over at the Me Too, thread.

Sexual proclivities do not include abuse of power. Who knows, was she a "Weinstein in training?"

:?:



Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? If I knew that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

:lol:
How did she abuse her power sparky? Exactly what did she do? What you have is YOU assume she abused her power. The fact that a relationship exists/existed does not prove abuse of power. Has the "girl friend" complained? Has she even spoken? Maybe Hill did abuse her power, but you have ZERO PROOF. :roll:
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:03 pm Gymmy Jordan Didn’t see anything but going to uncover the deep state and find Hillary’s server:

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/ ... osu-doctor
Hope JJ has to testify under oath.
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He’ll probably claim executive privilege.
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:11 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:29 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:51 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:38 pm I got it, but was referring to others without the sarcasm font on.

Hill did resign. But no need to move on. This thread is about progressive ideology. And Katie was one of the "young risers" shaping democratic, progressive ideology.

I guess she showed that creepy sexually abusive relationships outside of marriages aren't just for men like Clinton anymore. How very woke and progressive of her!

:lol:

"Shaping democratic progressive ideology" -- hardly. :lol: More like she was doing her job well as a freshman congresswomen, regardless of her sexual proclivities.
Doing her job well. Except for the whole abuse of power thing, right?

There are multiple examples of this exact same thing over at the Me Too, thread.

Sexual proclivities do not include abuse of power. Who knows, was she a "Weinstein in training?"

:?:



Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? If I knew that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

:lol:
How did she abuse her power sparky? Hey hey, that's enough!... I'm Sparky... damn it Exactly what did she do? What you have is YOU assume she abused her power. The fact that a relationship exists/existed does not prove abuse of power. Has the "girl friend" complained? Has she even spoken? Maybe Hill did abuse her power, but you have ZERO PROOF. :roll:
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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tech37 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:36 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:11 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:29 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:51 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:38 pm I got it, but was referring to others without the sarcasm font on.

Hill did resign. But no need to move on. This thread is about progressive ideology. And Katie was one of the "young risers" shaping democratic, progressive ideology.

I guess she showed that creepy sexually abusive relationships outside of marriages aren't just for men like Clinton anymore. How very woke and progressive of her!

:lol:

"Shaping democratic progressive ideology" -- hardly. :lol: More like she was doing her job well as a freshman congresswomen, regardless of her sexual proclivities.
Doing her job well. Except for the whole abuse of power thing, right?

There are multiple examples of this exact same thing over at the Me Too, thread.

Sexual proclivities do not include abuse of power. Who knows, was she a "Weinstein in training?"

:?:



Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? If I knew that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

:lol:
How did she abuse her power sparky? Hey hey, that's enough!... I'm Sparky... damn it Exactly what did she do? What you have is YOU assume she abused her power. The fact that a relationship exists/existed does not prove abuse of power. Has the "girl friend" complained? Has she even spoken? Maybe Hill did abuse her power, but you have ZERO PROOF. :roll:
You certainly are.
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:51 pm There is no substance to the alleged underlying crime. You get that fact, right?

Not a single other credible source to confirm.



:roll:

I can't believe I used to vote straight Democrat tickets. I don't even recognize you people anymore.
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Peter Brown wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:25 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:51 pm There is no substance to the alleged underlying crime. You get that fact, right?

Not a single other credible source to confirm.
:roll:

I can't believe I used to vote straight Democrat tickets. I don't even recognize you people anymore.
So "some guy" posts stuff on the internet, and you take it as gospel truth, is that it?

Not possible that he edited those texts? Made them up whole cloth? Moved context around to make his point?

Basically you're telling foreverlax that if a Nigerian Prince asks for your help via email, you help him. Moreover, foreverlax is insane if he doesn't immediately, and unquestioningly believe the postings of some guy on the internet.

That about the score here?


Let us know when the Russians post on the internet who it is we should vote for in the next election, so we can get right on that. Cool? ;)
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I went over to the MeToo thread with this convo.

Probably more interesting here is E Warrens MFA tweets last night. If she takes the Dem nomination, I’m fully prepared to say the Party will suffer unimaginable losses everywhere. Hillary 2.0 but far left. Ugh.
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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Peter Brown wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:54 am
I’m fully prepared to say
Doubt any will actually care
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Re: Progressive Ideology

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jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:11 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:29 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:51 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:38 pm I got it, but was referring to others without the sarcasm font on.

Hill did resign. But no need to move on. This thread is about progressive ideology. And Katie was one of the "young risers" shaping democratic, progressive ideology.

I guess she showed that creepy sexually abusive relationships outside of marriages aren't just for men like Clinton anymore. How very woke and progressive of her!

:lol:

"Shaping democratic progressive ideology" -- hardly. :lol: More like she was doing her job well as a freshman congresswomen, regardless of her sexual proclivities.
Doing her job well. Except for the whole abuse of power thing, right?

There are multiple examples of this exact same thing over at the Me Too, thread.

Sexual proclivities do not include abuse of power. Who knows, was she a "Weinstein in training?"

:?:



Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? If I knew that that sort of thing was frowned upon...

:lol:
How did she abuse her power sparky? Exactly what did she do? What you have is YOU assume she abused her power. The fact that a relationship exists/existed does not prove abuse of power. Has the "girl friend" complained? Has she even spoken? Maybe Hill did abuse her power, but you have ZERO PROOF. :roll:
Catch up. As I posted in the story from the Atlantic above:
In a time when Americans are remapping the difficult landscape of sex and power in the workplace, it would be willfully naive to shove aside the uncomfortable dynamics of Hill’s relationship with a staffer who was almost a decade her junior, and a recent college graduate
But I don’t expect you to understand the dynamics of today’s world, grandpa. You probably still think blackface makes for a swell Halloween costume...

:roll:
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