All Things Environment

[jhu72]

The Chinese are also moving away from coal. In 2010 it supplied 80% of their electric power, by 2017 it was down to 60%. Their consumption is up a little however, due to the increase in demand for electrical power. They are currently at "peak coal" according to the Brookings Institute (conservative think tank) and it's usage is anticipated to decline in the coming years. They are also the only nation majorly committed to nuclear power for electrical generation. They are adding new nuclear generation facilities.

We have had this discussion before. You were wrong then and wrong now about China's intention for coal generated power.

Maybe Trump can show the Chinese how he saved coal here in the US, so they can do the same.

[RedFromMI]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/business ... index.html

Neat outside the box thinking. This is not however a use of artificial intelligence. They are using adaptive optics (computer controlled). Astronomers have been using these techniques in their telescopes for 20 years. Another government funded science application with a huge payoff.

Actually it is, and it relies on it (better article with explanation of AI aspect in more detail: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... liogen-csp)

Basically, four cameras equally spread outside the focal point simultaneously measure each mirror's alignment in real time, and constantly make real time alignments to each and every one of them. Article said computing power available 5 years ago would be insufficient to what they actually need to operate...

So where is the artificial intelligence? A computer making optical alignment adjustments doesn't seem to be anything new to me. More computing power may be needed, but that doesn't make the concept something new. What am I missing? Artificial intelligence to me is more a marketing term than a scientific or engineering term. You put it on a business plan to get funding.

It is the parallel processing necessary to use just four cameras to simultaneously measure many hundreds of mirror alignments and adjust them in real time. Not necessarily AI in the normal sense.

[holmes435]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/business ... index.html

Neat outside the box thinking. This is not however a use of artificial intelligence. They are using adaptive optics (computer controlled). Astronomers have been using these techniques in their telescopes for 20 years. Another government funded science application with a huge payoff.

Actually it is, and it relies on it (better article with explanation of AI aspect in more detail: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... liogen-csp)

Basically, four cameras equally spread outside the focal point simultaneously measure each mirror's alignment in real time, and constantly make real time alignments to each and every one of them. Article said computing power available 5 years ago would be insufficient to what they actually need to operate...

So where is the artificial intelligence? A computer making optical alignment adjustments doesn't seem to be anything new to me. More computing power may be needed, but that doesn't make the concept something new. What am I missing? Artificial intelligence to me is more a marketing term than a scientific or engineering term. You put it on a business plan to get funding.

It is the parallel processing necessary to use just four cameras to simultaneously measure many hundreds of mirror alignments and adjust them in real time. Not necessarily AI in the normal sense.

Current "AIs" are mostly a bunch of If/Then statements. Aligning four mirrors is easy peazy when off the shelf processors nowadays are doing 100 million instructions per second and are easy to parallel in the thousands.

Real AIs are indeed getting closer to fruition, but marketing speak has severely clouded the market so to speak.

[jhu72]

That is certainly my position. I hate the term Artificial Intelligence. It is totally overused to the point of meaninglessness. As I said, it is something to put on you business plan when trying to get funding.

[ABV 8.3%]

Don't recall this event...at all.

But, installing a device that reduces energy consumption........possibly most of it.....isn't consumer worthy? Why? I mean, it would be like installing a 99% effecient HHO system.....which exists???? THIS is my point.

Remember the information about wood stoves and how the EPA, once again attacking the poor, made illegal certain wood stoves. Does the EPA have it's own bullet supply like other alphabet departments ?

http://www.canadianoffthegrid.com/epa-b ... ng-stoves/

and

https://www.epa.gov/burnwise/ordinances ... appliances

Who, besides you, said anything about it not being consumer worthy? Why didn’t those two fellas find raise and get a commercial prototype out? Nobody stopped them.

Did the peer review fade from the guy in your video? How in the world did he get on Carson ?

I've moved on to EPA/ wood stoves......it's winter. What do you use to keep warm in Fairfield county? Oil, NG, C3H8, geo, electric, ????

We throw cash into the fireplace

So glad the EPA took 30 years to enforce it's "modern" wood stove requirements. Good luck getting a installation permit with an older stove.

I bring this up b/c it is a perfect example of how laws HURT the poor.......in the guise of helping the planet.

If the EPA , and the rich oligarchs, really cared, they would have given TARP funds to the 12 million wood stove burners/polluters.

Still no answer on what you heat with.

[jhu72]

I'll bet you light farts.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Don't recall this event...at all.

But, installing a device that reduces energy consumption........possibly most of it.....isn't consumer worthy? Why? I mean, it would be like installing a 99% effecient HHO system.....which exists???? THIS is my point.

Remember the information about wood stoves and how the EPA, once again attacking the poor, made illegal certain wood stoves. Does the EPA have it's own bullet supply like other alphabet departments ?

http://www.canadianoffthegrid.com/epa-b ... ng-stoves/

and

https://www.epa.gov/burnwise/ordinances ... appliances

Who, besides you, said anything about it not being consumer worthy? Why didn’t those two fellas find raise and get a commercial prototype out? Nobody stopped them.

Did the peer review fade from the guy in your video? How in the world did he get on Carson ?

I've moved on to EPA/ wood stoves......it's winter. What do you use to keep warm in Fairfield county? Oil, NG, C3H8, geo, electric, ????

We throw cash into the fireplace

So glad the EPA took 30 years to enforce it's "modern" wood stove requirements. Good luck getting a installation permit with an older stove.

I bring this up b/c it is a perfect example of how laws HURT the poor.......in the guise of helping the planet.

If the EPA , and the rich oligarchs, really cared, they would have given TARP funds to the 12 million wood stove burners/polluters.

Still no answer on what you heat with.

Natural gas. Thermostat set at 64. I wear a sweatshirt.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I'll bet you light farts.

But do you know how much energy is used producing beans!!

[Bandito]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

[Typical Lax Dad]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

[jhu72]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

Nope. Hillary made him do it.

[Bandito]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

Isn’t he concerned about sea levels rising? Obviously he and his admin lied to America about man made global warming. Proving again democrats are huge liars and scumbags

[foreverlax]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

Isn’t he concerned about sea levels rising? Obviously he and his admin lied to America about man made global warming. Proving again democrats are huge liars and scumbags

Don't worry about those on the coast...we the people have that covered via socialism, i.e. government back flood insurance.

[Typical Lax Dad]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

Isn’t he concerned about sea levels rising? Obviously he and his admin lied to America about man made global warming. Proving again democrats are huge liars and scumbags

You can make him an offer.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/26/obam ... te-change/

[jhu72]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

Isn’t he concerned about sea levels rising? Obviously he and his admin lied to America about man made global warming. Proving again democrats are huge liars and scumbags

You can make him an offer.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/26/obam ... te-change/

By the looks of the shoreline, he is probably good for 100 years. The low lying shore on the left probably brings ocean closer to house but not dangerously in that time frame. He chose well.

[Typical Lax Dad]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

Isn’t he concerned about sea levels rising? Obviously he and his admin lied to America about man made global warming. Proving again democrats are huge liars and scumbags

You can make him an offer.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/26/obam ... te-change/

By the looks of the shoreline, he is probably good for 100 years. The low lying shore on the left probably brings ocean closer to house but not dangerously in that time frame. He chose well.

He won't be so lucky if he lives to be 178.

[ABV 8.3%]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

Isn’t he concerned about sea levels rising? Obviously he and his admin lied to America about man made global warming. Proving again democrats are huge liars and scumbags

You can make him an offer.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/26/obam ... te-change/

And boy did he get a "Rezko-esque" type of price....or "deal" on this property. No salt water access, yet, for this property. Great duck hunting tho

[Typical Lax Dad]

If climate change and global warming was real and caused by humans, why did Obama buy a mansion worth millions on Martha’s Vineyard? I thought he was concerned about sea levels rising? Proving once again Dems only care about tactics to redistribute wealth. That’s all this movement is. What a bunch of BS. Democrats exposed again for their lies and deceit of the American people.

Because he is rich?

Isn’t he concerned about sea levels rising? Obviously he and his admin lied to America about man made global warming. Proving again democrats are huge liars and scumbags

You can make him an offer.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/26/obam ... te-change/

And boy did he get a "Rezko-esque" type of price....or "deal" on this property. No salt water access, yet, for this property. Great duck hunting tho

People say he is the best negotiator....

[ABV 8.3%]

Yup.......way back in 2011, when his administration made Wyc a rich man.....don't ask me how

Anyone else notice the LACK of renewable energy on ANY of Obama's properties? This one is the perfect spot for a wind turbine.......and yet..... none exists. In fact......do the pretends on the Vineyard even ALLOW wind turbines? nimby zoning laws

https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2011/04 ... aken-down/

such fricking hypocrites....

[Typical Lax Dad]

Yup.......way back in 2011, when his administration made Wyc a rich man.....don't ask me how

Anyone else notice the LACK of renewable energy on ANY of Obama's properties? This one is the perfect spot for a wind turbine.......and yet..... none exists. In fact......do the pretends on the Vineyard even ALLOW wind turbines? nimby zoning laws

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