Re: Sensible Gun Control
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:18 pm
Tony Gonzales
@TonyGonzales4TX
US House candidate, TX-23
My heart breaks for the city of Uvalde. Pray for our families.
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3:44 PM · May 24, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
Of course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
Grow up. No one is insisting all guns must be banned. Americans have owned guns since forever and never had this problem until high capacity, high rate of fire weapons were made legal. Until we made acquiring and carrying a gun in public easier than acquiring a drivers license. I am sorry if it offends you, but this is a problem that is almost totally the responsibility of the republican party.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
Do you have a link to a piece of legislation that proposes to ban all guns? You sound stupid (again).cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
Back up the bus didn't Doc Barrister propose that just a few posts above. He appeared to be serious as a heart attack in doing so. FTR aquirering a hand gun in NYS legally is a monumental task that can take as long as a year depending on what county you live in. Buying any weapon in NYS legally requires an FBI background check from the firearms dealer. I agree that different states are very lax on gun ownership. I've said this a 1000 times, step one should be the BATF cracking down on the sale of firearms across state lines. If the solution is the sale of all firearms be regulated at the federal level.. there are 50 states that will take exception to that and the court cases will go on for many years. I'm all for keeping firearms out of the hands of unstable people. How our nation goes about doing that is no simple task. FTR I'm becoming more and more on the side of limiting the sales of AR-15 type weapons. IMO they are not a practical weapon for home defense. I don't think most folks that own these weapons understand how far a 5.56 round can travel and still be lethal. That would be in excess of 300 meters. That is farther than most people can see.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 7:06 amGrow up. No one is insisting all guns must be banned. Americans have owned guns since forever and never had this problem until high capacity, high rate of fire weapons were made legal. Until we made acquiring and carrying a gun in public easier than acquiring a drivers license. I am sorry if it offends you, but this is a problem that is almost totally the responsibility of the republican party.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
That is the SOLUTION that Doc B proposed as a good start. As far as I know there is no current legislation YET to ban all guns. Maybe if you understood the context of what I was saying you wouldn't come across like a moron...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 amDo you have a link to a piece of legislation that proposes to ban all guns? You sound stupid (again).cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
... I am not Doc B.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:44 amBack up the bus didn't Doc Barrister propose that just a few posts above. He appeared to be serious as a heart attack in doing so. FTR aquirering a hand gun in NYS legally is a monumental task that can take as long as a year depending on what county you live in. Buying any weapon in NYS legally requires an FBI background check from the firearms dealer. I agree that different states are very lax on gun ownership. I've said this a 1000 times, step one should be the BATF cracking down on the sale of firearms across state lines. If the solution is the sale of all firearms be regulated at the federal level.. there are 50 states that will take exception to that and the court cases will go on for many years. I'm all for keeping firearms out of the hands of unstable people. How our nation goes about doing that is no simple task. FTR I'm becoming more and more on the side of limiting the sales of AR-15 type weapons. IMO they are not a practical weapon for home defense. I don't think most folks that own these weapons understand how far a 5.56 round can travel and still be lethal. That would be in excess of 300 meters. That is farther than most people can see.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 7:06 amGrow up. No one is insisting all guns must be banned. Americans have owned guns since forever and never had this problem until high capacity, high rate of fire weapons were made legal. Until we made acquiring and carrying a gun in public easier than acquiring a drivers license. I am sorry if it offends you, but this is a problem that is almost totally the responsibility of the republican party.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
There are lots of straight forward reasonable solutions that are possible. It only requires the current republican law makers get out of the way and take an interest in real solutions. You solve this problem, armed civilians wandering the streets, you will go a long way to solving the problem of police unnecessarily killing civilians.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:44 amBack up the bus didn't Doc Barrister propose that just a few posts above. He appeared to be serious as a heart attack in doing so. FTR aquirering a hand gun in NYS legally is a monumental task that can take as long as a year depending on what county you live in. Buying any weapon in NYS legally requires an FBI background check from the firearms dealer. I agree that different states are very lax on gun ownership. I've said this a 1000 times, step one should be the BATF cracking down on the sale of firearms across state lines. If the solution is the sale of all firearms be regulated at the federal level.. there are 50 states that will take exception to that and the court cases will go on for many years. I'm all for keeping firearms out of the hands of unstable people. How our nation goes about doing that is no simple task. FTR I'm becoming more and more on the side of limiting the sales of AR-15 type weapons. IMO they are not a practical weapon for home defense. I don't think most folks that own these weapons understand how far a 5.56 round can travel and still be lethal. That would be in excess of 300 meters. That is farther than most people can see.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 7:06 amGrow up. No one is insisting all guns must be banned. Americans have owned guns since forever and never had this problem until high capacity, high rate of fire weapons were made legal. Until we made acquiring and carrying a gun in public easier than acquiring a drivers license. I am sorry if it offends you, but this is a problem that is almost totally the responsibility of the republican party.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 9:07 amThere are lots of straight forward reasonable solutions that are possible. It only requires the current republican law makers get out of the way and take an interest in real solutions. You solve this problem, armed civilians wandering the streets, you will go a long way to solving the problem of police unnecessarily killing civilians.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:44 amBack up the bus didn't Doc Barrister propose that just a few posts above. He appeared to be serious as a heart attack in doing so. FTR aquirering a hand gun in NYS legally is a monumental task that can take as long as a year depending on what county you live in. Buying any weapon in NYS legally requires an FBI background check from the firearms dealer. I agree that different states are very lax on gun ownership. I've said this a 1000 times, step one should be the BATF cracking down on the sale of firearms across state lines. If the solution is the sale of all firearms be regulated at the federal level.. there are 50 states that will take exception to that and the court cases will go on for many years. I'm all for keeping firearms out of the hands of unstable people. How our nation goes about doing that is no simple task. FTR I'm becoming more and more on the side of limiting the sales of AR-15 type weapons. IMO they are not a practical weapon for home defense. I don't think most folks that own these weapons understand how far a 5.56 round can travel and still be lethal. That would be in excess of 300 meters. That is farther than most people can see.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 7:06 amGrow up. No one is insisting all guns must be banned. Americans have owned guns since forever and never had this problem until high capacity, high rate of fire weapons were made legal. Until we made acquiring and carrying a gun in public easier than acquiring a drivers license. I am sorry if it offends you, but this is a problem that is almost totally the responsibility of the republican party.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
I asked you a question. BTW, stop complaining about gun violence in Rochester. Don’t want to see you post anything about that. Crime in Rochester hasn’t stopped YET. Just wait it will.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:47 amThat is the SOLUTION that Doc B proposed as a good start. As far as I know there is no current legislation YET to ban all guns. Maybe if you understood the context of what I was saying you wouldn't come across like a moron...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 amDo you have a link to a piece of legislation that proposes to ban all guns? You sound stupid (again).cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
I stand corrected. Doc only wants to ban handguns and semi automatic weapons. You want to get into the what is a semi automatic weapon debate??
No he did not. He was specific. Ban hand guns, ban assault rifles.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:44 amBack up the bus didn't Doc Barrister propose that just a few posts above. He appeared to be serious as a heart attack in doing so. FTR aquirering a hand gun in NYS legally is a monumental task that can take as long as a year depending on what county you live in. Buying any weapon in NYS legally requires an FBI background check from the firearms dealer. I agree that different states are very lax on gun ownership. I've said this a 1000 times, step one should be the BATF cracking down on the sale of firearms across state lines. If the solution is the sale of all firearms be regulated at the federal level.. there are 50 states that will take exception to that and the court cases will go on for many years. I'm all for keeping firearms out of the hands of unstable people. How our nation goes about doing that is no simple task. FTR I'm becoming more and more on the side of limiting the sales of AR-15 type weapons. IMO they are not a practical weapon for home defense. I don't think most folks that own these weapons understand how far a 5.56 round can travel and still be lethal. That would be in excess of 300 meters. That is farther than most people can see.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 7:06 amGrow up. No one is insisting all guns must be banned. Americans have owned guns since forever and never had this problem until high capacity, high rate of fire weapons were made legal. Until we made acquiring and carrying a gun in public easier than acquiring a drivers license. I am sorry if it offends you, but this is a problem that is almost totally the responsibility of the republican party.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:47 amThat is the SOLUTION that Doc B proposed as a good start. As far as I know there is no current legislation YET to ban all guns. Maybe if you understood the context of what I was saying you wouldn't come across like a moron...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 amDo you have a link to a piece of legislation that proposes to ban all guns? You sound stupid (again).cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 6:12 amOf course liberals such as yourself will gladly exclude yourself and your ideology from contributing to the mess we are in. if the solution is to ban all guns let me know how that works out. All of those many people who own illegal firearms will gladly turn them in. Everybody is looking at the guns and ignoring the crazy people behind the guns. What scares the hell out of me is the plethora of unstable people in this country that are willing to shoot innocent people for no reason. It appears this person celebrated his 18th birthday by purchasing the weapons he used. It could be time to raise the age to purchase a firearm to 18. It should also be mandatory to complete a firearm safety course. This is certainly not a solution, but it is a start.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:06 pmThese are the people who blather about "American Exceptionalism," but who have made us into a Third World country. Bad infrastructure, political paralysis, and 350,000,000 guns.
I stand corrected. Doc only wants to ban handguns and semi automatic weapons. You want to get into the what is a semi automatic weapon debate??