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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:36 pm
by JoeMauer89
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:02 pm Who remembers back in March when IMPOTUS o d and his deplorables were telling us the COVID-19 was just the flu?

March 9, 2002 "So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life and the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!" - o d

292 days and 330,000 deaths later and I'm still thinking about this...

And where is he this month? Golfing and ignoring the national crisis...

MAGA
As I said before, true or not, you continue to repeat yourself... Biden assumes presidency on 1/20/21, move on stop letting him occupy real estate in your head? I mean who would want to live that way? So bitter that they know regardless of what they are bitching and moaning about that it won't change a thing? Focus on the positive, because there always is. Take up a hobby, get fresh air, stop shouting from the hilltops. It's a broken record every couple of weeks and it holds not credence because a new leader is about to take stage, and that's what a good majority wanted. So sit back and watch how it plays out instead of asking rhetorically questions for the sake of your own personal frustrations...

Joe

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:10 pm
by holmes435
Ah, the tired "rent free" thing. As if being concerned with the leadership (or lack of it) in your country is letting someone live in your head. I'm sure you're not going to criticize anything Biden does in the next 4 years, because that would just be him living rent free in your head. I look forward to your carefree attitude the next four years! Will be refreshing.

Trump is president now and will be for a few more weeks. He's not doing anything now and really hasn't been. So what you're saying is that he's just so terrible, we should take up a hobby and wait until someone potentially better is in office? And not demand that Trump and his supporters be held accountable for their actions, leading to a lot of unnecessary deaths?

I do like that you ask who lives that way, so bitter about the other side, when so many Trump supporters are foaming and frothing at the mouth to have the election overturned and overthrow the Biden presidency.

I guarantee you a lot of people here in the middle and the left who criticize Trump will also criticize Biden. You don't see a lot of people on the right criticizing Biden before he's even president also criticizing Trump's decisions the past four years. It's a cult of personality for a reason.

In any case, I suggest you sit back, watch how it plays out, and don't worry about other people criticizing Trump for the next few weeks. After all, he's gonna be out of office on 1/20/21. I mean who would want to live that way? Obsessed with people who criticize Trump.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:59 pm
by JoeMauer89
holmes435 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:10 pm Ah, the tired "rent free" thing. As if being concerned with the leadership (or lack of it) in your country is letting someone live in your head. I'm sure you're not going to criticize anything Biden does in the next 4 years, because that would just be him living rent free in your head. I look forward to your carefree attitude the next four years! Will be refreshing.

Trump is president now and will be for a few more weeks. He's not doing anything now and really hasn't been. So what you're saying is that he's just so terrible, we should take up a hobby and wait until someone potentially better is in office? And not demand that Trump and his supporters be held accountable for their actions, leading to a lot of unnecessary deaths?

I do like that you ask who lives that way, so bitter about the other side, when so many Trump supporters are foaming and frothing at the mouth to have the election overturned and overthrow the Biden presidency.

I guarantee you a lot of people here in the middle and the left who criticize Trump will also criticize Biden. You don't see a lot of people on the right criticizing Biden before he's even president also criticizing Trump's decisions the past four years. It's a cult of personality for a reason.

In any case, I suggest you sit back, watch how it plays out, and don't worry about other people criticizing Trump for the next few weeks. After all, he's gonna be out of office on 1/20/21. I mean who would want to live that way? Obsessed with people who criticize Trump.
Criticize or not, you will HAVE NO EFFECT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. THATS MY POINT! Happy New Year All!!!

Joe

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:17 am
by holmes435
JoeMauer89 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:59 pm
holmes435 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:10 pm Ah, the tired "rent free" thing. As if being concerned with the leadership (or lack of it) in your country is letting someone live in your head. I'm sure you're not going to criticize anything Biden does in the next 4 years, because that would just be him living rent free in your head. I look forward to your carefree attitude the next four years! Will be refreshing.

Trump is president now and will be for a few more weeks. He's not doing anything now and really hasn't been. So what you're saying is that he's just so terrible, we should take up a hobby and wait until someone potentially better is in office? And not demand that Trump and his supporters be held accountable for their actions, leading to a lot of unnecessary deaths?

I do like that you ask who lives that way, so bitter about the other side, when so many Trump supporters are foaming and frothing at the mouth to have the election overturned and overthrow the Biden presidency.

I guarantee you a lot of people here in the middle and the left who criticize Trump will also criticize Biden. You don't see a lot of people on the right criticizing Biden before he's even president also criticizing Trump's decisions the past four years. It's a cult of personality for a reason.

In any case, I suggest you sit back, watch how it plays out, and don't worry about other people criticizing Trump for the next few weeks. After all, he's gonna be out of office on 1/20/21. I mean who would want to live that way? Obsessed with people who criticize Trump.
Criticize or not, you will HAVE NO EFFECT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. THATS MY POINT! Happy New Year All!!!

Joe
Your criticism seems to be very one sided and we here already know it has no effect since this place's predecessor opened when you were ~7. It's to blow off steam and to make some lacrosse friends. What's your lacrosse background, I bet we have at least 4-5 friends or acquaintances in common. Happy New Year!!! My 2020 was the best in company history, we were insanely blessed throughout this mess, despite getting no .gov assistance.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:21 am
by ABV 8.3%
holmes435 wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:17 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:59 pm
holmes435 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:10 pm Ah, the tired "rent free" thing. As if being concerned with the leadership (or lack of it) in your country is letting someone live in your head. I'm sure you're not going to criticize anything Biden does in the next 4 years, because that would just be him living rent free in your head. I look forward to your carefree attitude the next four years! Will be refreshing.

Trump is president now and will be for a few more weeks. He's not doing anything now and really hasn't been. So what you're saying is that he's just so terrible, we should take up a hobby and wait until someone potentially better is in office? And not demand that Trump and his supporters be held accountable for their actions, leading to a lot of unnecessary deaths?

I do like that you ask who lives that way, so bitter about the other side, when so many Trump supporters are foaming and frothing at the mouth to have the election overturned and overthrow the Biden presidency.

I guarantee you a lot of people here in the middle and the left who criticize Trump will also criticize Biden. You don't see a lot of people on the right criticizing Biden before he's even president also criticizing Trump's decisions the past four years. It's a cult of personality for a reason.

In any case, I suggest you sit back, watch how it plays out, and don't worry about other people criticizing Trump for the next few weeks. After all, he's gonna be out of office on 1/20/21. I mean who would want to live that way? Obsessed with people who criticize Trump.
Criticize or not, you will HAVE NO EFFECT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. THATS MY POINT! Happy New Year All!!!

Joe
Your criticism seems to be very one sided and we here already know it has no effect since this place's predecessor opened when you were ~7. It's to blow off steam and to make some lacrosse friends. What's your lacrosse background, I bet we have at least 4-5 friends or acquaintances in common. Happy New Year!!! My 2020 was the best in company history, we were insanely blessed throughout this mess, despite getting no .gov assistance.
When you COME to this section, aren't you looking, specifically, for JUST one side. To challenge?

I am focusing on the word "seems", that you wrote. My thinking, IS that it seems you have NOT watched Dr. Cornell West clip yet? Or, if you had, pondered what he said and found any truth in his words? Just a few people :lol: of the liberal bent ;) that IS/are dissappointed in the war mongering antiques, as VP elect Harris pointed out, willing to "work with racists", as Biden did, ah yes. This.

sorry for sticking around, but cooter forget to get his Brazillian and the soonest a pro could do it was this Wednesday. ( I offered ) Don't wanna wait that long, so looking into getting one in Panama. (where Cooter set up my financials AND arrangement to get BOTH doses over a span of a month, hope the waves in Rica stay good in between shots) But, does anyone know anyone that can do good waxing of body hair, in Panama City? I know, I know, smooeegallIT, but, figured, with all the lacrosse backgrounds here, someone would have 4 - 5 friends or acquaintances.

https://www.google.com/search?q=estheti ... e&ie=UTF-8

Seriously, what does someones "lacrosse background" have to do with anything? This where we going? Let's play this game: Who do you know that IS involved with MBYLL. You know, the largest youth lacrosse league, in the world. Who, for after discussing it for over 15 years, finally told US Lax to pound Maryland clay and self insured. (why did this happen :lol: Involvement as a coach, ref, or even former player. Gotta be at least, 4 or 5. ;)

Like any of that/this matters, especially on a "politics" thread. Using your criteria, the Hopkins thread would have no posters ;)

you came here to HATE, as the sections "tagline" advertizes, I came to have fun. But, it appears, or seems, that there are just WAY too many
pyhiabocwywssiiwad's around. Yes, as in plural. lots of youze. shorthard, known as pbocwad pronounced PEE bock waad

place your hand in a bucket of cold water you will still say it is warm and dry.

aka: zealot

EDIT:

TLD hooked me up with a good esthetician.......being a good Fairfield Ctny dude, he had many bankster "acquaintances" familiar with Panama city.

Either that, or he is following Patriots owner Bob Craft on twatter

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 am
by DMac
Coulda just asked me, I'm a pretty good esthetician too.
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See? Told ya. :D

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:06 am
by SCLaxAttack
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:21 am
holmes435 wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:17 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:59 pm
holmes435 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:10 pm Ah, the tired "rent free" thing. As if being concerned with the leadership (or lack of it) in your country is letting someone live in your head. I'm sure you're not going to criticize anything Biden does in the next 4 years, because that would just be him living rent free in your head. I look forward to your carefree attitude the next four years! Will be refreshing.

Trump is president now and will be for a few more weeks. He's not doing anything now and really hasn't been. So what you're saying is that he's just so terrible, we should take up a hobby and wait until someone potentially better is in office? And not demand that Trump and his supporters be held accountable for their actions, leading to a lot of unnecessary deaths?

I do like that you ask who lives that way, so bitter about the other side, when so many Trump supporters are foaming and frothing at the mouth to have the election overturned and overthrow the Biden presidency.

I guarantee you a lot of people here in the middle and the left who criticize Trump will also criticize Biden. You don't see a lot of people on the right criticizing Biden before he's even president also criticizing Trump's decisions the past four years. It's a cult of personality for a reason.

In any case, I suggest you sit back, watch how it plays out, and don't worry about other people criticizing Trump for the next few weeks. After all, he's gonna be out of office on 1/20/21. I mean who would want to live that way? Obsessed with people who criticize Trump.
Criticize or not, you will HAVE NO EFFECT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. THATS MY POINT! Happy New Year All!!!

Joe
Your criticism seems to be very one sided and we here already know it has no effect since this place's predecessor opened when you were ~7. It's to blow off steam and to make some lacrosse friends. What's your lacrosse background, I bet we have at least 4-5 friends or acquaintances in common. Happy New Year!!! My 2020 was the best in company history, we were insanely blessed throughout this mess, despite getting no .gov assistance.
When you COME to this section, aren't you looking, specifically, for JUST one side. To challenge?

I am focusing on the word "seems", that you wrote. My thinking, IS that it seems you have NOT watched Dr. Cornell West clip yet? Or, if you had, pondered what he said and found any truth in his words? Just a few people :lol: of the liberal bent ;) that IS/are dissappointed in the war mongering antiques, as VP elect Harris pointed out, willing to "work with racists", as Biden did, ah yes. This.

sorry for sticking around, but cooter forget to get his Brazillian and the soonest a pro could do it was this Wednesday. ( I offered ) Don't wanna wait that long, so looking into getting one in Panama. (where Cooter set up my financials AND arrangement to get BOTH doses over a span of a month, hope the waves in Rica stay good in between shots) But, does anyone know anyone that can do good waxing of body hair, in Panama City? I know, I know, smooeegallIT, but, figured, with all the lacrosse backgrounds here, someone would have 4 - 5 friends or acquaintances.

https://www.google.com/search?q=estheti ... e&ie=UTF-8

Seriously, what does someones "lacrosse background" have to do with anything? This where we going? Let's play this game: Who do you know that IS involved with MBYLL. You know, the largest youth lacrosse league, in the world. Who, for after discussing it for over 15 years, finally told US Lax to pound Maryland clay and self insured. (why did this happen :lol: Involvement as a coach, ref, or even former player. Gotta be at least, 4 or 5. ;)

Like any of that/this matters, especially on a "politics" thread. Using your criteria, the Hopkins thread would have no posters ;)

you came here to HATE, as the sections "tagline" advertizes, I came to have fun. But, it appears, or seems, that there are just WAY too many
pyhiabocwywssiiwad's around. Yes, as in plural. lots of youze. shorthard, known as pbocwad pronounced PEE bock waad

place your hand in a bucket of cold water you will still say it is warm and dry.

aka: zealot

EDIT:

TLD hooked me up with a good esthetician.......being a good Fairfield Ctny dude, he had many bankster "acquaintances" familiar with Panama city.

Either that, or he is following Patriots owner Bob Craft on twatter
I have a headache. The ABV’s got to be more like 75%.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:29 am
by ABV 8.3%
Latin Americans don't dig on them homosexual types (prove me wrong), so not sure about that last image and Costa Rica surf camping...

it IS kind of strange that liberals want more of them in the US.

That IS what that last picture, of the device/tool IS, for, correct?

Unlike you tRump/Clinton/Epstein types, the youngest I go for is mid 40's, exception like a Masters exception, I would love to find her type in Panama City.
age 38
https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel ... -road-trip

age 43
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm2260031/media ... 392322560/


late 40's ?
https://iconicfocus.com/portfolio/maria-von-hartz/


age 50
https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/Jenn ... 7-43907608

age 54
https://people.com/health/halle-berry-ripped-abs-photo/

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:37 am
by Typical Lax Dad
DMac wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 am Coulda just asked me, I'm a pretty good esthetician too.
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See? Told ya. :D
Merry Christmas!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:07 am
by ABV 8.3%
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:37 am
DMac wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 am Coulda just asked me, I'm a pretty good esthetician too.
Image
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See? Told ya. :D
Merry Christmas!
Was god the original deadbeat dad? Christ, was, born next to goat poop, yes? (unless the nativity scenes animals are add ons, like all of the bible IS added onto ) At what age did the 17 year gap of "where the F IS Jesus Christ ??? " begin? Age 9? Age 16? When did Jesus run away from Joseph and all his rants, especially after drinking. ".....you're NOT my child ANYWAY..." mostly in anger and always slurring.

And, did Joseph know about all of this? The whens...the whats ? Was the "no room at the inn" really just a cover story for the shame he felt that his beloved, incestous (house of David cousins, yes? ) wife, or were they still engaged, or, "betrohed" , was giving birth to another mans child. Not to assume the "gender" of god, but, chances are.......

and, IS immaculate sex the kind of sex like they had with Racquels daughter in "cocoon" movie......you never touch each other but still have "fun" ? Whatever happened to her?

When do atheists get a Holiday?

exactly

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:13 am
by wgdsr
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:50 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:15 pm Politicians are like football coaches- Don’t listen to what they say, watch what the DO.

Holding back 50% of the vaccine means the production hasn’t been what was expected/promised.

As I understand it, the vaccine is useless without the second dose. Giving out 100% is a waste of you can’t give that second dose. Give out what you can that guarantees it will work. Which, At this point, is 50% of the dose.
not really the case. there was a break at about 12-13 days for pfizer for example. including small sample size no serious cases vs placebo at the time before 2nd shot.
https://twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/sta ... 78241?s=20
we may never know what 1 shot would do long term if they don't test it long term (same with moderna). which they may in order to have more for everyone. however.. it was approved for 2 doses. if you can't be assured of that on production/distribution, well then you may get what you got.

as far as that call on distribution and producton, without being in the room, when i first heard of how they were doing it i had a similar initial reaction - "why not more earlier?". though production issues relating to materials were already a problem with first batches. who knows what they would be once siphoning materials up and ramping? on this one, i trust the health and logistics guys running the show before i do a wapo writer.

personally had a much bigger question with who we were doling them out to. think they should've been nursing home & 75 plus first, then 65 plus (total <45 million people and 80% of deaths), then 55 plus (another 10%+). 85 million people we've covered over 90% of deaths. the rest of the pop @ 25,000 deaths right now. so i don't agree with them on this and yes, sounds like i'm talking out both sides of my mouth.
looks like shortly after my post, google search and the hill teamed up to put something out:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5 ... culation=1

strange how a focus now on pushing shots through to as many as possible and a untried one dose regimen are being bandied about, but little to no discussion on cdc guides to have health and then frontline workers
included early. heard an entire health system getting vaxxed. including lab personnel who are backed by the right program (even if off-site) and undergrad nursing students who aren't patient facing.

and of congress will be able to vote safely.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:30 am
by Farfromgeneva
DMac wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 am Coulda just asked me, I'm a pretty good esthetician too.
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See? Told ya. :D
You messed up the cropping of the second one.

I should add the second to last one is fine, but other than thinking she looks like a Russian plant that Steve Bannon or Trump himself would screw around with the key element I hope folks notice is the inner upper arm tat. Tattoos on soft flesh areas are painful so that’s a great signal that she’s crazy. I love my women with a little scratch and dent aspects to them!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:34 am
by Typical Lax Dad
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:30 am
DMac wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 am Coulda just asked me, I'm a pretty good esthetician too.
Image
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See? Told ya. :D
You messed up the cropping of the second one.
Is that the AT&T girl?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:47 am
by runrussellrun
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:34 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:30 am
DMac wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 am
See? Told ya. :D
You messed up the cropping of the second one.
Is that the AT&T girl?
yes....it IS all coming together. You see, the founder of Qunon used to date the ATT spokesmodel. Two birds, win, win, hitting the Memphis TN 5g cellphone network.
Sends a message to those that matter (problem solvers)just how Christmas Story lamp shipping containers had stamped " frah JILL....eH" the network IS.

......or, just an Oceans 11 type bankheist, perhaps?

I just saw on twitter that tRump pardonned Dr. Fauci.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:59 am
by MDlaxfan76
wgdsr wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:13 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:50 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:15 pm Politicians are like football coaches- Don’t listen to what they say, watch what the DO.

Holding back 50% of the vaccine means the production hasn’t been what was expected/promised.

As I understand it, the vaccine is useless without the second dose. Giving out 100% is a waste of you can’t give that second dose. Give out what you can that guarantees it will work. Which, At this point, is 50% of the dose.
not really the case. there was a break at about 12-13 days for pfizer for example. including small sample size no serious cases vs placebo at the time before 2nd shot.
https://twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/sta ... 78241?s=20
we may never know what 1 shot would do long term if they don't test it long term (same with moderna). which they may in order to have more for everyone. however.. it was approved for 2 doses. if you can't be assured of that on production/distribution, well then you may get what you got.

as far as that call on distribution and producton, without being in the room, when i first heard of how they were doing it i had a similar initial reaction - "why not more earlier?". though production issues relating to materials were already a problem with first batches. who knows what they would be once siphoning materials up and ramping? on this one, i trust the health and logistics guys running the show before i do a wapo writer.

personally had a much bigger question with who we were doling them out to. think they should've been nursing home & 75 plus first, then 65 plus (total <45 million people and 80% of deaths), then 55 plus (another 10%+). 85 million people we've covered over 90% of deaths. the rest of the pop @ 25,000 deaths right now. so i don't agree with them on this and yes, sounds like i'm talking out both sides of my mouth.
looks like shortly after my post, google search and the hill teamed up to put something out:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5 ... culation=1

strange how a focus now on pushing shots through to as many as possible and a untried one dose regimen are being bandied about, but little to no discussion on cdc guides to have health and then frontline workers
included early. heard an entire health system getting vaxxed. including lab personnel who are backed by the right program (even if off-site) and undergrad nursing students who aren't patient facing.

and of congress will be able to vote safely.
Thanks for finding and sharing. Agree re little discussion of priorities...I'm still perplexed as to why they were working on vaccine distribution issues for many months yet seemed to not have clear recommendations about priorities, indeed no recommendations, until the very last moment...certainly doesn't engender confidence that either 1) the public health folks were in charge and/or 2) there wasn't political pressure from non-public health people.

It also disturbs me that, if the article is accurate, that for each vaccination distributed a second dose is being held back and not distributed. It's as if they have zero confidence that more doses are being produced and will be available. I understand some modeled reserve but 1:1 makes no sense to me absent a belief no more doses are being produced.

And am I correct that when they say the gov't is holding back the second doses, they mean the federal gov't is not shipping them to the states? Yet the federal gov't isn't tracking the individuals being vaccinated, the states are in charge of that...maybe? But the federal gov't isn't sending the states the second doses?

That sure sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:03 am
by DMac
Yes, it's the AT&T girl....and here's a little better cropping job (didn't crop the first one).
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....and the first one is this gal, who has, perhaps, the nicest asz on the planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxZM9i71FGQ

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:11 am
by Typical Lax Dad
DMac wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:03 am Yes, it's the AT&T girl....and here's a little better cropping job (didn't crop the first one).
Image
....and the first one is this gal, who has, perhaps, the nicest asz on the planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxZM9i71FGQ
I thought that was her. I am thirsty. I figured she was hot. It is like when I first saw Halle Berry in a movie. I told me friends she was hot....they thought I was crazy. I have a sharp eye. She was playing a crackhead in Jungle Fever. They tried their best to mKe her look bad but I could see through it. A few years later she emerged. People couldn’t believe it was the same girl... ;) she is a Cleveland girl. They have a reputation for being hot and wild.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:39 am
by ABV 8.3%
Yes.....let's go full on "systemic mysgonistic" why not. Angie Everhart from Cleveland? Very hot.

Something that kissed piece of garbage Joe pesci tho........ hey joe, turns out Sinead was right all along, you midget puke.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:01 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:39 am Yes.....let's go full on "systemic mysgonistic" why not. Angie Everhart from Cleveland? Very hot.

Something that kissed piece of garbage Joe pesci tho........ hey joe, turns out Sinead was right all along, you midget puke.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:12 pm
by DMac
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:59 am
wgdsr wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:13 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:50 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:15 pm Politicians are like football coaches- Don’t listen to what they say, watch what the DO.

Holding back 50% of the vaccine means the production hasn’t been what was expected/promised.

As I understand it, the vaccine is useless without the second dose. Giving out 100% is a waste of you can’t give that second dose. Give out what you can that guarantees it will work. Which, At this point, is 50% of the dose.
not really the case. there was a break at about 12-13 days for pfizer for example. including small sample size no serious cases vs placebo at the time before 2nd shot.
https://twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/sta ... 78241?s=20
we may never know what 1 shot would do long term if they don't test it long term (same with moderna). which they may in order to have more for everyone. however.. it was approved for 2 doses. if you can't be assured of that on production/distribution, well then you may get what you got.

as far as that call on distribution and producton, without being in the room, when i first heard of how they were doing it i had a similar initial reaction - "why not more earlier?". though production issues relating to materials were already a problem with first batches. who knows what they would be once siphoning materials up and ramping? on this one, i trust the health and logistics guys running the show before i do a wapo writer.

personally had a much bigger question with who we were doling them out to. think they should've been nursing home & 75 plus first, then 65 plus (total <45 million people and 80% of deaths), then 55 plus (another 10%+). 85 million people we've covered over 90% of deaths. the rest of the pop @ 25,000 deaths right now. so i don't agree with them on this and yes, sounds like i'm talking out both sides of my mouth.
looks like shortly after my post, google search and the hill teamed up to put something out:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5 ... culation=1

strange how a focus now on pushing shots through to as many as possible and a untried one dose regimen are being bandied about, but little to no discussion on cdc guides to have health and then frontline workers
included early. heard an entire health system getting vaxxed. including lab personnel who are backed by the right program (even if off-site) and undergrad nursing students who aren't patient facing.

and of congress will be able to vote safely.
Thanks for finding and sharing. Agree re little discussion of priorities...I'm still perplexed as to why they were working on vaccine distribution issues for many months yet seemed to not have clear recommendations about priorities, indeed no recommendations, until the very last moment...certainly doesn't engender confidence that either 1) the public health folks were in charge and/or 2) there wasn't political pressure from non-public health people.

It also disturbs me that, if the article is accurate, that for each vaccination distributed a second dose is being held back and not distributed. It's as if they have zero confidence that more doses are being produced and will be available. I understand some modeled reserve but 1:1 makes no sense to me absent a belief no more doses are being produced.

And am I correct that when they say the gov't is holding back the second doses, they mean the federal gov't is not shipping them to the states? Yet the federal gov't isn't tracking the individuals being vaccinated, the states are in charge of that...maybe? But the federal gov't isn't sending the states the second doses?

That sure sounds like a recipe for disaster.
You boys seem to be up on this stuff so let's talk about masks for a minute. Here in NYS we're all about 'em, you go into any establishment, you better have a mask on and pretty much everyone does. Here's what you do when you go into a bar or restaurant: Wear a mask when you enter, can't stand at the bar but you can sit there. Can take your mask off when you're seated (put it back on to and from the restroom though) and you must order food, can't just sit there with your drink. W-T-F kind of sense does that make? I walk in with my mask on so I and everyone else is safer but I take it off when I'm seated next to my friends at the bar....makes perfect sense (not), eh? You figure that confuses people (it sure does me)?
Further, a family of six New Yorkers goes to Florida for Christmas, two teachers and their four kids. No one in Florida is wearing a mask. Not at the beach, not in stores, not in bars or restaurants. Inasmuch as they're remote teaching and their kids are remote schoolers, they're saying phuk dis, we might as well stay down in Florida for another month where we feel a whole more comfortable and aren't bombarded with rules and so much covid talk and worry. Apparently there's a whole different attitude about covid and precautions down there (heard it from a friend of a friend...their father/father-in-law).
So what gives with the masks, we pizzin' in the wind with them up here or are they being selfish/irresponsible citizens who are putting the rest of the country at risk? It all really does leave the average Joe in a state of confusion and yes, he can do some research but even that won't give you a definitive answer as not all the "experts" are in agreement about all that. So what to do?