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Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:12 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:45 pm -North Korea
-trade
Ok. Please clarify how the state of affairs of these are are "good news".

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:12 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:45 pm -North Korea
-trade
Ok. Please clarify how the state of affairs of these are are "good news".


Sure.

On NoKo, it’s easy to dismiss Trump as an uncouth negotiator and he probably is. But his instincts are to open dialogue where dialogue didn’t exist, and I think most people actually agree with that instinct. As I recall before Trump, NoKo was slowly veering towards complete isolationism. That never works out for anyone. In Trump, Kim Jung Un sees (for better or worse) a similar guy, and so they’re talking. I’m not predicting perfection, but at least the ice has thawed a little. My guess is most Americans (but not the DC-NY media driven Internet frenzy crowd demanding 100% anti Trump narratives) see this in the plus column for Trump. And if Kim gives in, whoa Nelly, watch out.

On Trade, Section 301 duties have brought in $30 Billion more in the past 12 months vs the previous 12. America used to finance its government via tariffs. The economy hasn’t seized, in fact the exact opposite, its thrived. This too is in Trump’s plus column. Admitted to by yours truly who hates Tariffs in general.

I could have added many more positives to my reply to MDLax, but I stopped. I’m telling you, a fan, you’re inadvertently helping this guy coast to RE-election. Not everything he does stinks.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:17 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm
a fan wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:12 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:45 pm -North Korea
-trade
Ok. Please clarify how the state of affairs of these are are "good news".


Sure.

On NoKo, it’s easy to dismiss Trump as an uncouth negotiator and he probably is. But his instincts are to open dialogue where dialogue didn’t exist, and I think most people actually agree with that instinct. As I recall before Trump, NoKo was slowly veering towards complete isolationism. That never works out for anyone. In Trump, Kim Jung Un sees (for better or worse) a similar guy, and so they’re talking. I’m not predicting perfection, but at least the ice has thawed a little. My guess is most Americans (but not the DC-NY media driven Internet frenzy crowd demanding 100% anti Trump narratives) see this in the plus column for Trump. And if Kim gives in, whoa Nelly, watch out.

On Trade, Section 301 duties have brought in $30 Billion more in the past 12 months vs the previous 12. America used to finance its government via tariffs. The economy hasn’t seized, in fact the exact opposite, its thrived. This too is in Trump’s plus column. Admitted to by yours truly who hates Tariffs in general.

I could have added many more positives to my reply to MDLax, but I stopped. I’m telling you, a fan, you’re inadvertently helping this guy coast to RE-election. Not everything he does stinks.
Ummm...https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/econom ... -s-economy

Due diligence is preferable to “gut”..

https://www.fidelity.com/news/article/u ... _SVC000438

Or
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/midwes ... 1569862178

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:13 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm I’m not predicting perfection, but at least the ice has thawed a little. My guess is most Americans (but not the DC-NY media driven Internet frenzy crowd demanding 100% anti Trump narratives) see this in the plus column for Trump. And if Kim gives in, whoa Nelly, watch out.
Dude. Kim has nukes. Still. Nothing has changed. If you want to say that the two met, and that's another step in a very long process. Fine. But let's not get carried away.
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm On Trade, Section 301 duties have brought in $30 Billion more in the past 12 months vs the previous 12.
:lol: That's certainly one way to look at it. Another is that Americans were taxed an extra $30Billlion dollars in just 12 months.

How's that trade deficit with China going? How are your farmers doing? Or do you not want to know? How are industries like mine doing, and how are our exports doing because of these very tariffs?

You're looking at one side of the ledger. Just like Trump wants you to. Nice job. You're smarter than this.

And please, for the love of everything holy, stop thinking because your wholly government subsidized industry is doing well, that everyone else MUST be doing well. ;)

Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm America used to finance its government via tariffs. The economy hasn’t seized, in fact the exact opposite, its thrived. This too is in Trump’s plus column.
YOUR industry has thrived, and it has nothing to do with tariffs. This is the game the R's play: Borrow $3 Trillion, pump it through the economy, and credit anything they can think of but the borrowed money.

And guys like you who either don't understand how macroecon works, or don't care....cheer. Until we pay the money back. Which is what Obama did with the sequester. And what did you think about the economy under Obama's last term?

Republicans have you pegged, my friend. Stop falling for it.
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm I’m telling you, a fan, you’re inadvertently helping this guy coast to RE-election. Not everything he does stinks.
I see. So criticizing a President will lead to his reelection, so we should shut up what a President does, no matter who the President is, or what the President does.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:03 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:13 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm I’m not predicting perfection, but at least the ice has thawed a little. My guess is most Americans (but not the DC-NY media driven Internet frenzy crowd demanding 100% anti Trump narratives) see this in the plus column for Trump. And if Kim gives in, whoa Nelly, watch out.
Dude. Kim has nukes. Still. Nothing has changed. If you want to say that the two met, and that's another step in a very long process. Fine. But let's not get carried away.
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm On Trade, Section 301 duties have brought in $30 Billion more in the past 12 months vs the previous 12.
:lol: That's certainly one way to look at it. Another is that Americans were taxed an extra $30Billlion dollars in just 12 months.

How's that trade deficit with China going? How are your farmers doing? Or do you not want to know? How are industries like mine doing, and how are our exports doing because of these very tariffs?

You're looking at one side of the ledger. Just like Trump wants you to. Nice job. You're smarter than this.

And please, for the love of everything holy, stop thinking because your wholly government subsidized industry is doing well, that everyone else MUST be doing well. ;)

Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm America used to finance its government via tariffs. The economy hasn’t seized, in fact the exact opposite, its thrived. This too is in Trump’s plus column.
YOUR industry has thrived, and it has nothing to do with tariffs. This is the game the R's play: Borrow $3 Trillion, pump it through the economy, and credit anything they can think of but the borrowed money.

And guys like you who either don't understand how macroecon works, or don't care....cheer. Until we pay the money back. Which is what Obama did with the sequester. And what did you think about the economy under Obama's last term?

Republicans have you pegged, my friend. Stop falling for it.
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm I’m telling you, a fan, you’re inadvertently helping this guy coast to RE-election. Not everything he does stinks.
I see. So criticizing a President will lead to his reelection, so we should shut up what a President does, no matter who the President is, or what the President does.

Where do you come up with this stuff?


Ahhhh. You can criticize him all you want. Where I think you’re enabling him twofold is this:

You refuse to give an inch on him. No one is perfect and no one is all bad. People are hearing this 100% monotonous drumbeat of negativity and tuning you out. Do you not realize that?

Elizabeth Warren, while you weren’t looking, has become your new coach. Good luck with that. Lol.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:49 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:03 pm
a fan wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:13 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm I’m not predicting perfection, but at least the ice has thawed a little. My guess is most Americans (but not the DC-NY media driven Internet frenzy crowd demanding 100% anti Trump narratives) see this in the plus column for Trump. And if Kim gives in, whoa Nelly, watch out.
Dude. Kim has nukes. Still. Nothing has changed. If you want to say that the two met, and that's another step in a very long process. Fine. But let's not get carried away.
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm On Trade, Section 301 duties have brought in $30 Billion more in the past 12 months vs the previous 12.
:lol: That's certainly one way to look at it. Another is that Americans were taxed an extra $30Billlion dollars in just 12 months.

How's that trade deficit with China going? How are your farmers doing? Or do you not want to know? How are industries like mine doing, and how are our exports doing because of these very tariffs?

You're looking at one side of the ledger. Just like Trump wants you to. Nice job. You're smarter than this.

And please, for the love of everything holy, stop thinking because your wholly government subsidized industry is doing well, that everyone else MUST be doing well. ;)

Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm America used to finance its government via tariffs. The economy hasn’t seized, in fact the exact opposite, its thrived. This too is in Trump’s plus column.
YOUR industry has thrived, and it has nothing to do with tariffs. This is the game the R's play: Borrow $3 Trillion, pump it through the economy, and credit anything they can think of but the borrowed money.

And guys like you who either don't understand how macroecon works, or don't care....cheer. Until we pay the money back. Which is what Obama did with the sequester. And what did you think about the economy under Obama's last term?

Republicans have you pegged, my friend. Stop falling for it.
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:53 pm I’m telling you, a fan, you’re inadvertently helping this guy coast to RE-election. Not everything he does stinks.
I see. So criticizing a President will lead to his reelection, so we should shut up what a President does, no matter who the President is, or what the President does.

Where do you come up with this stuff?


Ahhhh. You can criticize him all you want. Where I think you’re enabling him twofold is this:

You refuse to give an inch on him. No one is perfect and no one is all bad. People are hearing this 100% monotonous drumbeat of negativity and tuning you out. Do you not realize that?

Elizabeth Warren, while you weren’t looking, has become your new coach. Good luck with that. Lol.
Trump is all bad. Been bad for virtually all his life. Daddy bailed him out. What value would you put on daddy’s secured guarantee?

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:50 pm
by a fan
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:03 pm Ahhhh. You can criticize him all you want. Where I think you’re enabling him twofold is this:

You refuse to give an inch on him. No one is perfect and no one is all bad.
Wrong poster. I'm one of two guys here, for example, that was overjoyed Trump pulled out of Syria....and I'm angry that he caved, and we're right back were we started, and will have troops that, yet again, can never leave a country half way around the world "because" (fill in the dumb excuse).
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:03 pm People are hearing this 100% monotonous drumbeat of negativity and tuning you out.
You mean like they did with Bush? Or Obama? Or heck, Hillary?
Peter Brown wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:03 pm Elizabeth Warren, while you weren’t looking, has become your new coach. Good luck with that. Lol.
She's not my coach. I'm not a Dem.

And what are you worried she's gonna do? Hand out the same socialism you enjoy in the airline industry to "other industries"?

Oh, you're right, that would be horrible, I tells ya! ;)

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:10 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 am
by Peter Brown
When you venture into my world, best bring da receipts or risk making a fool of yourself. ;) I was letting the aviation-is-socialism thing slide because I assume you aren't in aviation and who cares anyway, but I have your back and don't want you fella's to go to a cocktail party and repeat self-reinforced lies. Consider this an easy assist on the goalie's doorstep!

There is this aviation something called the Aviation Trust Fund. The Airport and Airway Revenue Act of 1970 created the Trust Fund to provide a dedicated source of funding for the U.S. aviation system, independent of the General Fund (this includes operations, facilities and equipment, R&D, and grant-in-aid for airports).

The authority collects aviation excise taxes and spends from the Aviation Trust. This allows aviation to operate independently from government mood swings, so to speak. Every time you fly, commercial or private, you pay tons of fees, some hidden, some in plain sight. Passenger Facility Charges; Federal Excise Tax (7.5% is charged on airfare); Segment Fee ($4.00 USD does apply per flight segment); September 11th Security Fee ($5.60 USD applies per one-way flight); U.S. International Departure and Arrival Charges (up to $200.00 USD may apply depending upon the itinerary chosen); landing fees; state fees on top of fed fees; fines; and so on

The federal excise tax is 19.4¢ per gallon on aviation gasoline and 21.9¢ per gallon on jet fuel. For commercial operations, the federal excise tax rate for jet fuel is 4.4¢ per gallon. You can imagine how much money these taxes alone throw off.

Every time you fly, you cover the entire cost of the FAA plus a small profit (because of the, ahem, unique way the government does accounting, some will venture that ATC salaries are paid by the feds; average pay is $125k/year; in less than 20 years, most of them won't have jobs due to redundant and better software). The FAA and all the various fees we pay into aviation (I have barely scratched the surface of the hundreds of taxes and fees levied on the industry) is in fact a net contributor to the federal government's overall uses and sources of funds.

Also, many airports are in the process of being privatized; you'll lose that angle shortly too. Check in with Macquarie Bank's Infrastructure Fund to see what they are up to...possibly buying an airport near you.

As to aviation manufacturing, take that up with your local congressperson.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:09 am
by MDlaxfan76
Geez, sounds like near total control of an industry.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:16 am
by Peter Brown
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:09 am Geez, sounds like near total control of an industry.


The FAA? Sort of but not really.

Sort of in the sense that the FAA controls the real estate in the sky and on the ground, but not for much longer (the sky will shortly be taken over entirely by software - that's actually already true, but federal employees are tough barnacles to dislodge; and on the ground, many airports and locales are trying to sell off their fields).

Not really in the sense that private aviation (for profit private and commercial companies) are the real deal in aviation; the FAA has been a great partner in so many respects, but like other federal agencies, their utility is fast approaching the midnight hour. Btw, there are so many incredible aviation companies in this country it is amazing. If you folks could see what Garmin (Kansas company) is doing on a day-to-day basis, your heads would explode.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:20 am
by MDlaxfan76
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:16 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:09 am Geez, sounds like near total control of an industry.


The FAA? Sort of but not really. Sort of in the sense that the FAA controls the real estate in the sky and on the ground, but not for much longer (the sky will shortly be taken over entirely by software - that's actually already true, but federal employees are tough barnacles to dislodge) and on the ground, many airports and locales are trying to sell off their fields.

Not really in the sense that private aviation (for profit private and commercial companies) are the real deal in aviation; the FAA has been a great partner in so many respects, but like other federal agencies, their utility is fast approaching the midnight hour. Btw, there are so many incredible aviation companies in this country it is amazing. If you folks could see what Garmin (Kansas company) is doing on a day-to-day basis, your heads would explode.
I appreciate the detail, but what you describe is a system entirely dependent upon government, controlled by government, taxed by government, supported by government. Without government, the system would be chaos.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 am
by Peter Brown
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:20 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:16 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:09 am Geez, sounds like near total control of an industry.


The FAA? Sort of but not really. Sort of in the sense that the FAA controls the real estate in the sky and on the ground, but not for much longer (the sky will shortly be taken over entirely by software - that's actually already true, but federal employees are tough barnacles to dislodge) and on the ground, many airports and locales are trying to sell off their fields.

Not really in the sense that private aviation (for profit private and commercial companies) are the real deal in aviation; the FAA has been a great partner in so many respects, but like other federal agencies, their utility is fast approaching the midnight hour. Btw, there are so many incredible aviation companies in this country it is amazing. If you folks could see what Garmin (Kansas company) is doing on a day-to-day basis, your heads would explode.
I appreciate the detail, but what you describe is a system entirely dependent upon government, controlled by government, taxed by government, supported by government. Without government, the system would be chaos.


I could understand why you'd think that way, but I am afraid you have it entirely backward. Today, the FAA is unnecessary in every regard; those fees are regurgitated fat. We are paying people to run the mouse-wheel. If you removed the FAA, the system would be less expensive, safer, and more reliable. But like the elevator man versus automatic, the consumer takes a little time to understand the options.

I guess you could argue that you need TSA (which is Homeland Security) and I'd laugh. Even Canada and Europe privatize security.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:51 am
by MDlaxfan76
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:20 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:16 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:09 am Geez, sounds like near total control of an industry.


The FAA? Sort of but not really. Sort of in the sense that the FAA controls the real estate in the sky and on the ground, but not for much longer (the sky will shortly be taken over entirely by software - that's actually already true, but federal employees are tough barnacles to dislodge) and on the ground, many airports and locales are trying to sell off their fields.

Not really in the sense that private aviation (for profit private and commercial companies) are the real deal in aviation; the FAA has been a great partner in so many respects, but like other federal agencies, their utility is fast approaching the midnight hour. Btw, there are so many incredible aviation companies in this country it is amazing. If you folks could see what Garmin (Kansas company) is doing on a day-to-day basis, your heads would explode.
I appreciate the detail, but what you describe is a system entirely dependent upon government, controlled by government, taxed by government, supported by government. Without government, the system would be chaos.


I could understand why you'd think that way, but I am afraid you have it entirely backward. Today, the FAA is unnecessary in every regard; those fees are regurgitated fat. We are paying people to run the mouse-wheel. If you removed the FAA, the system would be less expensive, safer, and more reliable. But like the elevator man versus automatic, the consumer takes a little time to understand the options.

I guess you could argue that you need TSA (which is Homeland Security) and I'd laugh. Even Canada and Europe privatize security.
I'm not actually arguing either way, just observing that what you described is near total government control of the mechanisms of an industry.

I'll let someone more informed discuss whether privatization would or would not devolve into chaos. I'm of the view that "good fences make good neighbors", a fundamental function of government is to enforce those "fences".

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:55 am
by Typical Lax Dad
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:55 am When you venture into my world, best bring da receipts or risk making a fool of yourself. ;) I was letting the aviation-is-socialism thing slide because I assume you aren't in aviation and who cares anyway, but I have your back and don't want you fella's to go to a cocktail party and repeat self-reinforced lies. Consider this an easy assist on the goalie's doorstep!

There is this aviation something called the Aviation Trust Fund. The Airport and Airway Revenue Act of 1970 created the Trust Fund to provide a dedicated source of funding for the U.S. aviation system, independent of the General Fund (this includes operations, facilities and equipment, R&D, and grant-in-aid for airports).

The authority collects aviation excise taxes and spends from the Aviation Trust. This allows aviation to operate independently from government mood swings, so to speak. Every time you fly, commercial or private, you pay tons of fees, some hidden, some in plain sight. Passenger Facility Charges; Federal Excise Tax (7.5% is charged on airfare); Segment Fee ($4.00 USD does apply per flight segment); September 11th Security Fee ($5.60 USD applies per one-way flight); U.S. International Departure and Arrival Charges (up to $200.00 USD may apply depending upon the itinerary chosen); landing fees; state fees on top of fed fees; fines; and so on

The federal excise tax is 19.4¢ per gallon on aviation gasoline and 21.9¢ per gallon on jet fuel. For commercial operations, the federal excise tax rate for jet fuel is 4.4¢ per gallon. You can imagine how much money these taxes alone throw off.

Every time you fly, you cover the entire cost of the FAA plus a small profit (because of the, ahem, unique way the government does accounting, some will venture that ATC salaries are paid by the feds; average pay is $125k/year; in less than 20 years, most of them won't have jobs due to redundant and better software). The FAA and all the various fees we pay into aviation (I have barely scratched the surface of the hundreds of taxes and fees levied on the industry) is in fact a net contributor to the federal government's overall uses and sources of funds.

Also, many airports are in the process of being privatized; you'll lose that angle shortly too. Check in with Macquarie Bank's Infrastructure Fund to see what they are up to...possibly buying an airport near you.

As to aviation manufacturing, take that up with your local congressperson.
Maybe I will ask the folks at Brookfield also.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:04 am
by youthathletics
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:51 am I'm of the view that "good fences make good neighbors", a fundamental function of government is to enforce those "fences".
Now you really have us all confused, you comment really seems to differ form your perspective on our southern border....bigly.

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:09 am
by Peter Brown
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:51 am I'm not actually arguing either way, just observing that what you described is near total government control of the mechanisms of an industry.


No, what I described is a government that feasts on a healthy industry (as governments do).

I am somewhat (and almost always) amazed at how people have reflexive need for government control, or as MDLax says, enforcing the fences. Honestly, most passengers don't realize it, but your flights, TCAS, and global ATC systems are almost fully-autonomous today. The only systems which are still somewhat manual are ground (or Tower) control, and VFR flights.

Believe it or not, the software engineers at Garmin, NavCanada, etc...don't wake up trying to crash planes into each other. These engineers are making your flying remarkably safe. Friggin' Canada has a private FAA! Good lord people, let's get with modernity!

Almost every plane accident is caused by human error...we'll be at zero deaths in the not distant future.

https://www.cityam.com/one-chart-showin ... ys-travel/

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:10 am
by Peter Brown
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:51 am I'm of the view that "good fences make good neighbors", a fundamental function of government is to enforce those "fences".
Now you really have us all confused, you comment really seems to differ form your perspective on our southern border....bigly.


MDLax should laugh at this post. Because it is fire.

:lol:

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:13 am
by ABV 8.3%
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:51 am I'm of the view that "good fences make good neighbors", a fundamental function of government is to enforce those "fences".
Now you really have us all confused, you comment really seems to differ form your perspective on our southern border....bigly.
:lol:

Re: 2020 Elections - End of GOP rope?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:16 am
by ABV 8.3%
For those that consider the idiots on the HILL.....and why they keep on bringing us Hillaryous Clinton ....and how they DON'T remake lousy movies .

Ten minute "speech" evoking politics in a hewgalee, why Hillaryous to lead with opening remarks? A standing ovation? At a Funeral. SHameful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhLORl20Mrc

by the way, was Michelle Obama sick, I never saw her at Cummings funeral?