Possible face-off changes

[wgdsr]

to the maybe most impactful discussion, faceoffs, which was the genesis of this thread and discussed at some length at the end of last year by coaches:
- 60 seconds off the face. i think this is a done deal. having rabil write rules isn't exactly a blueprint, but the pros anyway got us the shot clock, and it has improved the game, imo.

Just wondering why shortening the shot clock following the face off is seen as an improvement by some. It seems like a rule designed to devalue a possession. As a result, in Paul's Lacrosse League it has lead to some teams dumping the ball out of bounds after winning the face-off in order to set up their D (yawn). If Rabil wants to run his league that way he can go ahead but I'd hate for the college game, which is superior in so many ways, to blindly follow what the PLL does as it tries to carve out its niche in a niche sport.

it's going on the basic theory that 20 seconds has been given to clear on initial possession. and that (mostly) teams don't need to set up a full clear from a faceoff win. hence, 80 - 20 = 60. it's the same idea with resets.

as far as pll, that was starting @ 52. so a drop of 20 is more egregious. and that game's much faster anyway. not really a comp

all why 60 sounds fine. that said, if the trend is your friend, a better bet would be that the time(s) will drop in the future before they go higher..

[wgdsr]

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... view/63593

recommendations are up.

video review:
adding whether shots were on cage to video review (in more than just uva - hopkins games).
adding coaches being able to challenge in the last 4 minutes + ot.
adding fights and unsportsmanlike conduct for video review by officials.

faceoffs - violation, sit the next face, but no penalty on 3 or more violations in a half.
new mechanic on setup, set and back out for cadence purposes.

then some other suspension stuff.

mostly left the game alone, and vegas takes a bit of a hit.

[coda]

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... view/63593

recommendations are up.

video review:
adding whether shots were on cage to video review (in more than just uva - hopkins games).
adding coaches being able to challenge in the last 4 minutes + ot.
adding fights and unsportsmanlike conduct for video review by officials.

faceoffs - violation, sit the next face, but no penalty on 3 or more violations in a half.
new mechanic on setup, set and back out for cadence purposes.

then some other suspension stuff.

mostly left the game alone, and vegas takes a bit of a hit.

Seen quite a few FOGOs that have been caught grabbing opposing sticks to dislodge the ball. That should be 3 minute unreleaseable.

[wgdsr]

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... view/63593

recommendations are up.

video review:
adding whether shots were on cage to video review (in more than just uva - hopkins games).
adding coaches being able to challenge in the last 4 minutes + ot.
adding fights and unsportsmanlike conduct for video review by officials.

faceoffs - violation, sit the next face, but no penalty on 3 or more violations in a half.
new mechanic on setup, set and back out for cadence purposes.

then some other suspension stuff.

mostly left the game alone, and vegas takes a bit of a hit.

Seen quite a few FOGOs that have been caught grabbing opposing sticks to dislodge the ball. That should be 3 minute unreleaseable.

that's actually unsportsmanlike and (at a minimum?) 1 minute. and i believe unreleasable.

[youthathletics]

It's like cutting off one end of the blanket and moving it to the other end thinking it will be longer.....they did nothing. This was from 17'-18':

[wgdsr]

It's like cutting off one end of the blanket and moving it to the other end thinking it will be longer.....they did nothing. This was from 17'-18':

yeah, the mechanic was fine. if you lined up wrong, too bad. those guys know how to line up. and if they asked/didn't know before the next face, they'd likely be told why. seems bent on cadence also, which the officials were instructed to do anyway. this seems like will slow things down. so the guys doing it wrong (fogos and refs) can be absolved.

[CU77]

Shortening the shot clock makes the game more interesting because it makes the game more competitive. It puts less value on the FOGO controlling most of the game and running out the clock. Again, professional sports are the business model, including the professional lacrosse league.

Wake up

I am fully awake, thank you.

The game is already interesting to its fans. The dead-ball era of 6-5 national championship games is long past.

I do NOT want to "grow the game" by turning it into basketball lite.

As a Brown fan, neither should you. Do you really want Brown to be as irrelevant to D1 lax as it is to D1 basketball? That's what "growing the game" means.

[rolldodge]

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... view/63593

recommendations are up.

video review:
adding whether shots were on cage to video review (in more than just uva - hopkins games).
adding coaches being able to challenge in the last 4 minutes + ot.
adding fights and unsportsmanlike conduct for video review by officials.

faceoffs - violation, sit the next face, but no penalty on 3 or more violations in a half.
new mechanic on setup, set and back out for cadence purposes.

then some other suspension stuff.

mostly left the game alone, and vegas takes a bit of a hit.

I like getting rid of the penalty after subsequent violations. That always seemed unnecessarily punitive.

[rolldodge]

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... view/63593

recommendations are up.

video review:
adding whether shots were on cage to video review (in more than just uva - hopkins games).
adding coaches being able to challenge in the last 4 minutes + ot.
adding fights and unsportsmanlike conduct for video review by officials.

faceoffs - violation, sit the next face, but no penalty on 3 or more violations in a half.
new mechanic on setup, set and back out for cadence purposes.

then some other suspension stuff.

mostly left the game alone, and vegas takes a bit of a hit.

I like getting rid of the penalty after subsequent violations. That always seemed unnecessarily punitive.

[DocBarrister]

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... view/63593

recommendations are up.

video review:
adding whether shots were on cage to video review (in more than just uva - hopkins games).
adding coaches being able to challenge in the last 4 minutes + ot.
adding fights and unsportsmanlike conduct for video review by officials.

faceoffs - violation, sit the next face, but no penalty on 3 or more violations in a half.
new mechanic on setup, set and back out for cadence purposes.

then some other suspension stuff.

mostly left the game alone, and vegas takes a bit of a hit.

I like getting rid of the penalty after subsequent violations. That always seemed unnecessarily punitive.

I actually like these proposed changes. Good job by Coach Tillman and the committee.

DocBarrister

[youthathletics]

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... view/63593

recommendations are up.

video review:
adding whether shots were on cage to video review (in more than just uva - hopkins games).
adding coaches being able to challenge in the last 4 minutes + ot.
adding fights and unsportsmanlike conduct for video review by officials.

faceoffs - violation, sit the next face, but no penalty on 3 or more violations in a half.
new mechanic on setup, set and back out for cadence purposes.

then some other suspension stuff.

mostly left the game alone, and vegas takes a bit of a hit.

I like getting rid of the penalty after subsequent violations. That always seemed unnecessarily punitive.

I actually like these proposed changes. Good job by Coach Tillman and the committee.

DocBarrister

Let’s hope the officials can handle this mechanic. #QFP