Towson 2023

[Math1234]

I'm glad to see this Towson thread wake up but come on guys. What are we arguing about? That we shouldn't accept mediocrity? I'd take that right now over the four-year record. That we should be better than UMBC? Yes, we should but credit them for beating us.

I love how non-Towson fans try to tell us what we should be. That if Nads left, we would end up with a HS coach, because this is a subpar job. Kind of like when Tony Seaman took the job in the late nineties. Or since Drenner, Goodrich, Seider, Woodall, Brendan Sunday, and Koby Smith left, we should be down. There's no reason why we can't recruit quality players year-in, year out. That's all I ask is to put an aggressive and athletic team that doesn't show any fear. We've had that in the past and sure, it might only happen once a decade, but that 2019 team was really good and could have gone far had we not blown it against the Terps. You don't hit a home run every time with those guys, but how about some triples and doubles? Right now, we aren't very good but showed glimpses of a decent team on Saturday.

[10stone5]

Looking again today at Weisshaar in that UVA game,

he showed a lot,
I’m liking the Weisshaar, Stewart, Berkeley 1st line mids.

[Farfromgeneva]

I'm glad to see this Towson thread wake up but come on guys. What are we arguing about? That we shouldn't accept mediocrity? I'd take that right now over the four-year record. That we should be better than UMBC? Yes, we should but credit them for beating us.

I love how non-Towson fans try to tell us what we should be. That if Nads left, we would end up with a HS coach, because this is a subpar job. Kind of like when Tony Seaman took the job in the late nineties. Or since Drenner, Goodrich, Seider, Woodall, Brendan Sunday, and Koby Smith left, we should be down. There's no reason why we can't recruit quality players year-in, year out. That's all I ask is to put an aggressive and athletic team that doesn't show any fear. We've had that in the past and sure, it might only happen once a decade, but that 2019 team was really good and could have gone far had we not blown it against the Terps. You don't hit a home run every time with those guys, but how about some triples and doubles? Right now, we aren't very good but showed glimpses of a decent team on Saturday.

I don’t get this better than UMBC who had zimmerman and was the better program in the 2000s. Two MD state schools. Maybe that’s part of the problem, acting like things are owed to Towson.

[10stone5]

I'm glad to see this Towson thread wake up but come on guys. What are we arguing about? That we shouldn't accept mediocrity? I'd take that right now over the four-year record. That we should be better than UMBC? Yes, we should but credit them for beating us.

I love how non-Towson fans try to tell us what we should be. That if Nads left, we would end up with a HS coach, because this is a subpar job. Kind of like when Tony Seaman took the job in the late nineties. Or since Drenner, Goodrich, Seider, Woodall, Brendan Sunday, and Koby Smith left, we should be down. There's no reason why we can't recruit quality players year-in, year out. That's all I ask is to put an aggressive and athletic team that doesn't show any fear. We've had that in the past and sure, it might only happen once a decade, but that 2019 team was really good and could have gone far had we not blown it against the Terps. You don't hit a home run every time with those guys, but how about some triples and doubles? Right now, we aren't very good but showed glimpses of a decent team on Saturday.

I don’t get this better than UMBC who had zimmerman and was the better program in the 2000s. Two MD state schools. Maybe that’s part of the problem, acting like things are owed to Towson.

Seaman had that Final Four team - lost a close one or they might
have got to the finals.
I liked that Peet Poillon / Zimm team - thought they might go
pretty far.

I’m partial to both these coaches because they’re more “my era”.
Zimm’s 1984 team was one of the best I ever saw. Hop had
actually started recruiting from our area so two locals were on
that unbeaten team, one a transfer in from my school.
Seaman was always good about giving people a leg up.
Seaman hired my high school coach as an assistant, which was
fortunate because Luke Wierman was coached up by his
replacement at my old school.

On to CAA play.

I believe Math was actually responding to that bizarre troll who’s
been spamming this thread.

[foreverlax]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

[Farfromgeneva]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

[10stone5]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

The 2000s was a very good stretch for both Zimm and Seaman,
a final four, two quarterfinals.
I liked that 2007 Zimm team, they upset the Terps but then got pounded by that Final Four Hens team.

[Farfromgeneva]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

The 2000s was a very good stretch for both Zimm and Seaman,
a final four, two quarterfinals.
I liked that 2007 Zimm team, they upset the Terps but then got pounded by that Final Four Hens team.

No one was beating Alex Smith unless they also palmed the ball on faceoffs

[10stone5]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

The 2000s was a very good stretch for both Zimm and Seaman,
a final four, two quarterfinals.
I liked that 2007 Zimm team, they upset the Terps but then got pounded by that Final Four Hens team.

No one was beating Alex Smith unless they also palmed the ball on faceoffs.

I thought Smith’s best move was the quick rake.
There weren’t many people who could keep up with Smith’s
quickness, nor many faceoff specialists who put in the same amount of time on that specialty, Smith was ahead of his time.

Curtis Dickson was unreal in that UVA game.

[Math1234]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

Sure, you're right. It's an even series and Towson should accept scoring four goals against UMBC (Towson leads the series 35-17). I think people forget that Towson has gone to three Finals Fours and one national title game in Division I (six overall). They've had seven quarterfinals appearances in D1 and 12 overall. And 15 D1 playoff appearances (21 overall). That they've won numerous ECC, AEast, and CAA titles. Seven CAA titles.

Not for firing Nads. I think most of us wanted changes and got some offensive ones against UVa. There's no reason why they can't be more competitive than they've been lately.

[Farfromgeneva]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

The 2000s was a very good stretch for both Zimm and Seaman,
a final four, two quarterfinals.
I liked that 2007 Zimm team, they upset the Terps but then got pounded by that Final Four Hens team.

No one was beating Alex Smith unless they also palmed the ball on faceoffs.

I thought Smith’s best move was the quick rake.
There weren’t many people who could keep up with Smith’s
quickness, nor many faceoff specialists who put in the same amount of time on that specialty, Smith was ahead of his time.

Curtis Dickson was unreal in that UVA game.

Thinking of the pic someone tossed around LP of the ball in hand...vs. Hop I believe.

[Farfromgeneva]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

Sure, you're right. It's an even series and Towson should accept scoring four goals against UMBC (Towson leads the series 35-17). I think people forget that Towson has gone to three Finals Fours and one national title game in Division I (six overall). They've had seven quarterfinals appearances in D1 and 12 overall. And 15 D1 playoff appearances (21 overall). That they've won numerous ECC, AEast, and CAA titles. Seven CAA titles.

Not for firing Nads. I think most of us wanted changes and got some offensive ones against UVa. There's no reason why they can't be more competitive than they've been lately.

Series records are irrelevant - you think Cuse isn't ready for a game vs. Hobart every year. The sarcasm if that's the case makes no sense, UMBC was excellent in the decade of the 2000s and had teams that were flat out better than Towson most years. Seamans record at Towson - .516, Zimmermans at UMBC .513...

I think Nadalen is as good a coach as Towson is going to get unless his time is over definitively which happens to all coaches. But he also benefitted from waiving kids in that he can't do currently. Same with Amplo at Marquette. That's changed when you've got Jax, HPU, Utah and a few others competing in that same pool.

[10stone5]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

Sure, you're right. It's an even series and Towson should accept scoring four goals against UMBC (Towson leads the series 35-17). I think people forget that Towson has gone to three Finals Fours and one national title game in Division I (six overall). They've had seven quarterfinals appearances in D1 and 12 overall. And 15 D1 playoff appearances (21 overall). That they've won numerous ECC, AEast, and CAA titles. Seven CAA titles.

Not for firing Nads. I think most of us wanted changes and got some offensive ones against UVa. There's no reason why they can't be more competitive than they've been lately.

Series records are irrelevant - you think Cuse isn't ready for a game vs. Hobart every year. The sarcasm if that's the case makes no sense, UMBC was excellent in the decade of the 2000s and had teams that were flat out better than Towson most years. Seamans record at Towson - .516, Zimmermans at UMBC .513...

I think Nadalen is as good a coach as Towson is going to get unless his time is over definitively which happens to all coaches. But he also benefitted from waiving kids in that he can't do currently. Same with Amplo at Marquette. That's changed when you've got Jax, HPU, Utah and a few others competing in that same pool.

Seaman’s last few years were pretty tough.
But he did bring in some players that Nadelen was able to use to
good effect his first few years - Andrew Hodgson, Tom Denapoli,
Wascavage was very solid in goal.
Its tough not to argue that UMBC wasn’t generally better than
Towson during Seaman’s final few years.

[Farfromgeneva]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

Sure, you're right. It's an even series and Towson should accept scoring four goals against UMBC (Towson leads the series 35-17). I think people forget that Towson has gone to three Finals Fours and one national title game in Division I (six overall). They've had seven quarterfinals appearances in D1 and 12 overall. And 15 D1 playoff appearances (21 overall). That they've won numerous ECC, AEast, and CAA titles. Seven CAA titles.

Not for firing Nads. I think most of us wanted changes and got some offensive ones against UVa. There's no reason why they can't be more competitive than they've been lately.

Series records are irrelevant - you think Cuse isn't ready for a game vs. Hobart every year. The sarcasm if that's the case makes no sense, UMBC was excellent in the decade of the 2000s and had teams that were flat out better than Towson most years. Seamans record at Towson - .516, Zimmermans at UMBC .513...

I think Nadalen is as good a coach as Towson is going to get unless his time is over definitively which happens to all coaches. But he also benefitted from waiving kids in that he can't do currently. Same with Amplo at Marquette. That's changed when you've got Jax, HPU, Utah and a few others competing in that same pool.

Seaman’s last few years were pretty tough.
But he did bring in some players that Nadelen was able to use to
good effect his first few years - Andrew Hodgson, Tom Denapoli,
Wascavage was very solid in goal.
Its tough not to argue that UMBC wasn’t generally better than
Towson during Seaman’s final few years.

Wonder how much having an elite FOGO then losing them contributes to a sort of complacency across the board. Think of immediate record post A Smith, Kevin/Kenny Massa, Baptiste, Woodall and to a degree even Ierlan. Noticing a mini trend there.

[Math1234]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

Sure, you're right. It's an even series and Towson should accept scoring four goals against UMBC (Towson leads the series 35-17). I think people forget that Towson has gone to three Finals Fours and one national title game in Division I (six overall). They've had seven quarterfinals appearances in D1 and 12 overall. And 15 D1 playoff appearances (21 overall). That they've won numerous ECC, AEast, and CAA titles. Seven CAA titles.

Not for firing Nads. I think most of us wanted changes and got some offensive ones against UVa. There's no reason why they can't be more competitive than they've been lately.

Series records are irrelevant - you think Cuse isn't ready for a game vs. Hobart every year. The sarcasm if that's the case makes no sense, UMBC was excellent in the decade of the 2000s and had teams that were flat out better than Towson most years. Seamans record at Towson - .516, Zimmermans at UMBC .513...

I think Nadalen is as good a coach as Towson is going to get unless his time is over definitively which happens to all coaches. But he also benefitted from waiving kids in that he can't do currently. Same with Amplo at Marquette. That's changed when you've got Jax, HPU, Utah and a few others competing in that same pool.

Records don't matter? Then it doesn't matter that Towson had defeated UMBC eight of the last nine games before losing 8-4 this season. Good Towson teams, mediocre Towson teams, bad Towson teams. Since 2000, UMBC has defeated Towson eight times out of 22. UMBC won three straight from 2007-09. That's the only time in the D-1 era that the Retrievers have won three straight in this series.

Again, love how people say you can never get a better coach than so-and-so. You should accept who you are and be ok with it, because screw it. You're just lowly Towson in a crappy conference, the game is growing and you'll never have another Jack Adams, Zach Goodrich, Koby Smith, Ryan Drenner, Joe Seider or Alex Woodall.

[Farfromgeneva]

Towson must be doing something right, there hasn't been a troll here for a number of years!!

They're fine and firing Nads would be dumber than dumb.

But acting like Towson should "son" UMBC perpetually by birthright is worth pushing back on IMO.

Sure, you're right. It's an even series and Towson should accept scoring four goals against UMBC (Towson leads the series 35-17). I think people forget that Towson has gone to three Finals Fours and one national title game in Division I (six overall). They've had seven quarterfinals appearances in D1 and 12 overall. And 15 D1 playoff appearances (21 overall). That they've won numerous ECC, AEast, and CAA titles. Seven CAA titles.

Not for firing Nads. I think most of us wanted changes and got some offensive ones against UVa. There's no reason why they can't be more competitive than they've been lately.

Series records are irrelevant - you think Cuse isn't ready for a game vs. Hobart every year. The sarcasm if that's the case makes no sense, UMBC was excellent in the decade of the 2000s and had teams that were flat out better than Towson most years. Seamans record at Towson - .516, Zimmermans at UMBC .513...

I think Nadalen is as good a coach as Towson is going to get unless his time is over definitively which happens to all coaches. But he also benefitted from waiving kids in that he can't do currently. Same with Amplo at Marquette. That's changed when you've got Jax, HPU, Utah and a few others competing in that same pool.

Records don't matter? Then it doesn't matter that Towson had defeated UMBC eight of the last nine games before losing 8-4 this season. Good Towson teams, mediocre Towson teams, bad Towson teams. Since 2000, UMBC has defeated Towson eight times out of 22. UMBC won three straight from 2007-09. That's the only time in the D-1 era that the Retrievers have won three straight in this series.

Again, love how people say you can never get a better coach than so-and-so. You should accept who you are and be ok with it, because screw it. You're just lowly Towson in a crappy conference, the game is growing and you'll never have another Jack Adams, Zach Goodrich, Koby Smith, Ryan Drenner, Joe Seider or Alex Woodall.

You’ve lost the plot. Should definitely go hire tillman or Tiffany tomorrow.

[sc lax]

New season starts today! Hoping to see them build off of last week against Virginia, where they flashed at times and seemed to play with confidence. The emergence of Mikey should take some pressure off Berkeley, which could be huge for the midfield production. X attackman remains a ? mark, so hopefully a guy steps up. CAA play is a whole different animal, it is going to be ugly and the Drexel game is always a 1-2 goal game. GBs need to improve for the Tigers, and they need to clear the ball better.

The conference is pretty open IMO, Delaware still looks the most consistent and strongest team but weird things happen over the course of conference play.

[10stone5]

Take the Tigers and the points.

[Henpecked]

This game is going to be a slog.

[Henpecked]

Towson on pace for 4 goals again.