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Brownlax wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:38 pm The coaching carousel feed has already started on the D1 men’s thread. What’s it going to look like this year for D1 women?

TNLAX wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:40 pm

Brownlax wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:38 pm The coaching carousel feed has already started on the D1 men’s thread. What’s it going to look like this year for D1 women?

Vanderbilt? Hewitt’s 5th year at the helm and it seems things have been getting worse and not better. Not recruiting good players or at least not getting good players in any meaningful numbers. When I have watched some games online I have seen a couple of solid players, but no depth. Not sure why a coach can’t sell Vanderbilt and Nashville to high school players and their parents. But I have never coached so I don’t know what all the obstacles may be.

Brownlax wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:54 pm

TNLAX wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:40 pm

Brownlax wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:38 pm The coaching carousel feed has already started on the D1 men’s thread. What’s it going to look like this year for D1 women?

Vanderbilt? Hewitt’s 5th year at the helm and it seems things have been getting worse and not better. Not recruiting good players or at least not getting good players in any meaningful numbers. When I have watched some games online I have seen a couple of solid players, but no depth. Not sure why a coach can’t sell Vanderbilt and Nashville to high school players and their parents. But I have never coached so I don’t know what all the obstacles may be.

Vandy put a nice year together last year with an 11-7 record and a 12-7 record the year before. This year they are 3-11 which is obviously not good. 2 of those 3 wins were against Colorado and Penn State which is not too shabby. I don't see the school parting ways with her at this point.

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:44 am Is is fair to say if John Danowski or Lars Tiffany had the same record as Kimmel and Julie Myers the past few years, they would be gone?

If so, how is that fair to female student athletes at UVA and Duke? Shouldn’t they demand more accountability for their programs?

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:21 am

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:44 am Is is fair to say if John Danowski or Lars Tiffany had the same record as Kimmel and Julie Myers the past few years, they would be gone?

If so, how is that fair to female student athletes at UVA and Duke? Shouldn’t they demand more accountability for their programs?

Interesting point. UVA parted ways with Dom only five years after winning a national championship. He had won four national championships in the 17 years preceding his last year at the helm. There does seem to be a double standard at Virginia.

Brownlax wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:56 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:21 am

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:44 am Is is fair to say if John Danowski or Lars Tiffany had the same record as Kimmel and Julie Myers the past few years, they would be gone?

If so, how is that fair to female student athletes at UVA and Duke? Shouldn’t they demand more accountability for their programs?

Interesting point. UVA parted ways with Dom only five years after winning a national championship. He had won four national championships in the 17 years preceding his last year at the helm. There does seem to be a double standard at Virginia.

There are a bunch of schools that just don't seem to care about their women's lacrosse programs. They don't care about wins and losses and they don't care that players are leaving the programs.

watcherinthewoods wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:03 am I had mentioned previously that Stanford HC is a good candidate to cut and run ... and since then a good source told me she actually applied for the Clemson job. Wonder if she will try and jump ship? Also wonder how long Bokker's contract is at OSU. They are not trending in the right direction and it seems like she is running out of time.

Dartmouth extended Alex McFadden's contract until 2028.

wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:19 pm

Brownlax wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:56 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:21 am

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:44 am Is is fair to say if John Danowski or Lars Tiffany had the same record as Kimmel and Julie Myers the past few years, they would be gone?

If so, how is that fair to female student athletes at UVA and Duke? Shouldn’t they demand more accountability for their programs?

Interesting point. UVA parted ways with Dom only five years after winning a national championship. He had won four national championships in the 17 years preceding his last year at the helm. There does seem to be a double standard at Virginia.

There are a bunch of schools that just don't seem to care about their women's lacrosse programs. They don't care about wins and losses and they don't care that players are leaving the programs.

Have there been large groups of players leaving UVA and Duke?

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:11 pm
If the players are happy, the team is competitive and the coach provides them with a great experience while the are getting their degree, the impetus to make a coaching change is—and should be—very low. Because the notion that a program has high odds of getting a better coach than kimmel or myers in both the “good coach” and “good person” dimensions is laughable. (See louisville, Stanford, Colgate,asu, etc).

LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:33 am

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:11 pm
If the players are happy, the team is competitive and the coach provides them with a great experience while the are getting their degree, the impetus to make a coaching change is—and should be—very low. Because the notion that a program has high odds of getting a better coach than kimmel or myers in both the “good coach” and “good person” dimensions is laughable. (See louisville, Stanford, Colgate,asu, etc).

When was there a coaching issue at ASU?

tothedraw wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:39 am

LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:33 am

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:11 pm
If the players are happy, the team is competitive and the coach provides them with a great experience while the are getting their degree, the impetus to make a coaching change is—and should be—very low. Because the notion that a program has high odds of getting a better coach than kimmel or myers in both the “good coach” and “good person” dimensions is laughable. (See louisville, Stanford, Colgate,asu, etc).

When was there a coaching issue at ASU?

I thought the issue at ASU was the first coach. Then TM did well and moved on to Hopkins. Have not kept track of how Taryn is doing.

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:51 pm Players unhappy with cutthroat culture set by new coach versus old one. And results not good either. Huge step backwards.

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:51 pm Players unhappy with cutthroat culture set by new coach versus old one. And results not good either. Huge step backwards.

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:11 pm

wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:19 pm

Brownlax wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:56 am

Can Opener wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:21 am

LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:44 am Is is fair to say if John Danowski or Lars Tiffany had the same record as Kimmel and Julie Myers the past few years, they would be gone?

If so, how is that fair to female student athletes at UVA and Duke? Shouldn’t they demand more accountability for their programs?

Interesting point. UVA parted ways with Dom only five years after winning a national championship. He had won four national championships in the 17 years preceding his last year at the helm. There does seem to be a double standard at Virginia.

There are a bunch of schools that just don't seem to care about their women's lacrosse programs. They don't care about wins and losses and they don't care that players are leaving the programs.

Have there been large groups of players leaving UVA and Duke?

That’s the right question. And the answer is “no”. Nobody leaves. In fact, Duke and uva continue to be two of the most coveted landing spots for top recruits. Why? Great schools. Competitive programs that are nearly always in the top 20 and often in the top 10. Coaches who are respected leaders and good people.
I love debating lax programs and rankings—but let’s be honest. Women’s college lax (and men’s too) is an amateur sport played while getting a degree.
If the players are happy, the team is competitive and the coach provides them with a great experience while the are getting their degree, the impetus to make a coaching change is—and should be—very low. Because the notion that a program has high odds of getting a better coach than kimmel or myers in both the “good coach” and “good person” dimensions is laughable. (See louisville, Stanford, Colgate,asu, etc).

Uva and duke coaches check those boxes emphatically.
Btw, the coaching change at uva men didn’t happen until 1) a player killed another student, 2) two players were suspended at the insistence of their teammates and 3) they didn’t win an acc game for 4 years.

tothedraw wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:49 pm

Womenslaxxfan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:51 pm Players unhappy with cutthroat culture set by new coach versus old one. And results not good either. Huge step backwards.

That's unfortunate to hear.