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Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:53 am
by Farfromgeneva
I doubt there’s a hobart fan out there who’d be happy if we kept starters in all game in either of these knowing how much we graduate this year and more importantly given that Canisius, Siena, Colgate & Binghamton mean nothing compared with the Cornell/Cuse legacy rivalry games and NEC schedule. We all want Troy Barthelme, Kyle Driscoll, Meite, Grooms, Baltzer, Imburgia, Paris, Dickson, Hocheimer, Hancock, Ballo, Yanko, etc playing as much as possible in these games because we will most likely need them when the important games come. Both losses to RoMo, where we had 4th quarter leads that we gave away by being to thin in rotation and getting worn down, could’ve been different had the coaches had confidence in the reserves to play.

And everyone did says the people who were there supported by the play by play. Eric Holden could have 22pts by now instead of 13 if he’s of played more than a half or so of each game.

If anything, this is why some felt we needed some upgrade to the schedule, even dropping a generally decent UVM squad. We watched St Joes build great records on soft schedules a few years back for a 2-4yr stretch and yet never once won the AQ. Another 11-5, 12-4 season and loss in NEC finals would taste a lot worse than 2016 where we had to go balls to the wall against strong Bryant and St Joes teams to win the AQ. (I still maintain the younger Mazza was overrated, Spallanzani owned him the last 3 or so matchups)

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:25 am
by GeneralBart
The last Knox goal came after a particularly egregious late hit by Siena. If your opponent wants to play that way, they have to pay a price (without physical retaliation). You reap what you sow.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:53 am
by Bartman
Well,the offense looked pretty awesome , best I've seen in recent years. Reminded me of ready aim fire years in the 70s. Defense has some work to do. Don't want to get too excited yet until we see how they do against Colgate

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:32 pm
by Laxgunea
There was no padding of the score, though the 10th goal by Knox may well have been a "thank you very much" for the late hit. There was a lot of unselfish play and the passing was just where we want it at this point. The scoring was spread out ... aside from Knox ... and I think it got higher and higher because the guys were fresh. That is what depth brings. I mean, Yanko is on a third or 4th middle line ... that's depth. It was great to see Cam Hancock, Brian's little brother (?), score.
Another thing to keep in mind is possession. Anyone there saw that Hobart used some time when they could ... shot clock limits that. And the D was stopping a tired Sienna. There is no way this team should ever let up. Colgate is always tough, so Saturday will be a good test.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:44 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Did Yanko play? I could only keep half an eye on live stats but shows he didn’t play. We’ve got a ton of talent but I am absolutely shocked he hasn’t been getting more run. Heard he was drafted very highly in a canadian box league After last summer and we had to fight to keep him in Geneva vs transferring to McGill.

Another thing in the back of my head:

Do we need to worry at all about Ryan Archers shooting? I know he can but he’s struggled this year and really did the last 2/3 of last year. Great player and feeder but he can score and shoot too however he’s 2/15 to start this year and was 5/35 from the first SHU game on with a number of non scoring games. That makes him 7/50 since going 14/42 from 2019 start through Gate. 14% since starting 2019 at 33%. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:20 pm
by kmartin
Yes Ty played a lot in second half. Team wasn’t pressing super hard to the cage so he was playing very unselfishly.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:42 pm
by Laxgunea
Yes, Yanko played and as kmartin said, played unselfishly. Looked to me like he was directing quite a bit while out there. He is a good communicator on a team of good communicators. But every once in a while I'd like to see him farther inside where his box skills would shine.
On Archer, I think he's playing into his role. But I hope that as ball movement and passing improve over all, he will start burying more shots. As much as Canisius and Siena's D fell apart, both goalies made some good stops.
Scott had a slow scoring day, but not everyone on this team can have a hat-trick each game. I'd look for him to light it up one of these days too. That is the beauty of the depth chart.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:12 pm
by Farfromgeneva
All good and appreciate the feedback. I love Archer and he has done nothing to underperform any expectations coming in, just when things are too easy/good I end up looking for the things that could be better. Ultimately all that matters is Gate next sat and I can’t say I’m disappointed that they have a midweek road game vs Princeton. They’ll be very battle tested but also presumably pretty worn down from taking on UNC, Cuse and PTon in 2.5 weeks before we get them in our bubble

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:34 pm
by wgdsr
LRoggy wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:57 pm Wagner in OT over LIU
Bryant loses
St. Joe's hammered
Merrimac losing to Dartmouth
Sacred Heart loses to Bucknell
Cornell clobbering Albany

NEC setting up very nicely for us. Get one of Cornell or Syracuse and our RPI should be pretty good.
your nec opponents are 6 -13. that's not good for rpi.
unless something changes dramatically, this is a one bid league.

losing only 0 or 1 game for the year may change that, but that's about it.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:41 pm
by Farfromgeneva
No doubt this is a 1 bid league this year. Not enough high quality OOC amongst the 5-6 teams most likely to be in the mix for any of them to get an at large. There’s prob a few scenarios that are less likely than me convincing Giselle to leave Tom Brady for me but that’s a sure thing.

Until 2018 our OOC has PSU, Cornell, Cuse and GTown. Also have had matches w Towson and Brown in last five years, Cuse and Cornell are staples every year. Coach R commented in a preseason contest that he didn’t want to bulk up with the new conference alignment, but it is what it is. Have to take care of business with what’s on the calendar

(Scenario for Bart: one of two MAAC opponents goes on run and wins conference w decent record, gate closes season strong and is helpful, heat both Cuse and Cornell, run table on season like UMass few years back and lose in NEC to strong RoMo or SJU in finals - more likely I get 50 straight blackjacks but possible)

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:23 am
by catchnshoot
Heard people commenting on the late EMO goal
Plenty of guys got run in this game
First years all over throughout the game
EMO needs to get live reps against teams in different colored jerseys
Happens all the time for all teams

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:35 pm
by WoodStick
Two fantastic opening games albeit against pretty weak competition. It will be fun to see how they do against a Colgate team that will be extremely hungry and looking for a little payback after getting drilled by two of the best teams in the country. Getting out on them early will be key!

Instead of complaining about the feed, the replays, our lack of social media presence how about we marvel that we were able to pull off building a facility like the Sports Dome. Yes, Tom once again stepped up in a huge way, but there were a lot of others who contributed to giving us one of the best facilities in all of D3. The "Poole" is amazing, and if you have not seen it, you need to. The Dome will pay off in recruiting for both the mens and women's lacrosse and for football as well. Even more amazing is that it was able to get done given our paltry endowment! If you want to get upset about anything that is something that really needs to be addressed.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:36 pm
by Farfromgeneva

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:38 am
by catchnshoot
I watched Cornell v Albany , the Big Red look very tough , big strong athletic midfield , Donville and Telesco looked very good .
Does anyone have insight on MSM beating Towson?

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm
by FL-GO
Towson graduated a lot of talent from last season’s team. I don’t know much more than that but it seems like this is a rebuilding year for the Tigers.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:08 pm
by Farfromgeneva
A few stories can be told from a statistic but I saw the Towson goalie had a 15% save % for the game. In a 1 goal game, even 1-2 more saves which is still well below 50% and the outcome flips. Nadalean isn’t Marr and one or two key offensive players in his system is the difference between human quarterfinal teams and 9-7 high rpi Towson many years I’m his tenure it seems.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:08 pm
by Farfromgeneva
A few stories can be told from a statistic but I saw the Towson goalie had a 15% save % for the game. In a 1 goal game, even 1-2 more saves which is still well below 50% and the outcome flips. Nadalean isn’t Marr and one or two key offensive players in his system is the difference between human quarterfinal teams and 9-7 high rpi Towson many years I’m his tenure it seems.

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:05 pm
by FL-GO
Lots of upsets tonight. Too bad we don’t get Cuse on a Tuesday...

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:46 am
by catchnshoot
After 3 big losses to strong teams UNC, 'Cuse and Princeton ; does Colgate come to the BOZ beaten up or Fired Up?

Re: Hobart 2020

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:51 am
by TopShelf585
Gate was hanging with Princeton for awhile but they eventually rolled over. Seems to be a trend with the Red Raiders-its important that we get off to a fast start and they'll take themselves out of the game.

Sowers from Princeton with 11 assists - crazy good.