Re: Maryland 2025
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 7:50 am
Are Murphy or Brennan returning? Both were 2020 freshmen, then redshirted in '21 so there should be eligibility.
I know of that in football. Never heard of it for lacrosse. To my understanding it was the simple you play, you lose the redshirt, w/ exception of injury. But again, teams have started backdating these red shirts after the fact to get guys an extra year if they only played a handful of gamesMoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:05 pmThought a player can play a max of 5 games, and still have it considered a redshirt year. Tillman seems to use this tactic quite often, figured he did it on purpose with Redd as well.jrn19 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:46 pmHe played in 5 games in 2021. A lot of these teams are just backdating injury redshirts at this point; so it's possible he could have another year. Not sure thoughMoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:44 pm Redd has a year of eligibility left, unless I’m missing something. Rope unit should be pretty strong.
for a medical redshirt, a player can only play in 30+% of contest dates (including scrimmages) and must suffer a season ending injury in the front half of the season. that's usually 4-6 contests including scrimmages. it shows he played most of his games at least in the back half including on memorial day weekend.MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:05 pmThought a player can play a max of 5 games, and still have it considered a redshirt year. Tillman seems to use this tactic quite often, figured he did it on purpose with Redd as well.jrn19 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:46 pmHe played in 5 games in 2021. A lot of these teams are just backdating injury redshirts at this point; so it's possible he could have another year. Not sure thoughMoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:44 pm Redd has a year of eligibility left, unless I’m missing something. Rope unit should be pretty strong.
Are there really rules though? It used to be 5 years to play 4, then the technical stuff you mentioned. Kastner played 4 full non-covid seasons but is now going to play a 5th in basketball. I'm not criticizing him, I think that's what college athletics should be about, but I believe the old rule book would say his eligibility is exhausted. It's just so arbitrary how some guys get 6 years while others get 3.3 and get out.wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 9:47 amfor a medical redshirt, a player can only play in 30+% of contest dates (including scrimmages) and must suffer a season ending injury in the front half of the season. that's usually 4-6 contests including scrimmages. it shows he played most of his games at least in the back half including on memorial day weekend.MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:05 pmThought a player can play a max of 5 games, and still have it considered a redshirt year. Tillman seems to use this tactic quite often, figured he did it on purpose with Redd as well.jrn19 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:46 pmHe played in 5 games in 2021. A lot of these teams are just backdating injury redshirts at this point; so it's possible he could have another year. Not sure thoughMoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:44 pm Redd has a year of eligibility left, unless I’m missing something. Rope unit should be pretty strong.
now, he bageled the stat sheet in all 5 appearances. which is rare even for spot duty. sometimes those stat sheets are incorrect as hoo goes in. but if it's correct, i'd say his eligibility is slim and none and slim's in texas.
i mentioned in another thread that i've yet to see something go against rules of the day. covid year was new. the fall scrimmage participation rules were changed in 2018 for spring sports to align it with fall sports/spring scrimmages/no more academically ineligible or hurt in between dinging an athlete a year. without writing war and peace, there are other exceptions like military service, religious missions and hardship (which is what redshirt is actually called in the rulebook).keno in reno wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 10:54 amAre there really rules though? It used to be 5 years to play 4, then the technical stuff you mentioned. Kastner played 4 full non-covid seasons but is now going to play a 5th in basketball. I'm not criticizing him, I think that's what college athletics should be about, but I believe the old rule book would say his eligibility is exhausted. It's just so arbitrary how some guys get 6 years while others get 3.3 and get out.wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 9:47 amfor a medical redshirt, a player can only play in 30+% of contest dates (including scrimmages) and must suffer a season ending injury in the front half of the season. that's usually 4-6 contests including scrimmages. it shows he played most of his games at least in the back half including on memorial day weekend.MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:05 pmThought a player can play a max of 5 games, and still have it considered a redshirt year. Tillman seems to use this tactic quite often, figured he did it on purpose with Redd as well.jrn19 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:46 pmHe played in 5 games in 2021. A lot of these teams are just backdating injury redshirts at this point; so it's possible he could have another year. Not sure thoughMoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:44 pm Redd has a year of eligibility left, unless I’m missing something. Rope unit should be pretty strong.
now, he bageled the stat sheet in all 5 appearances. which is rare even for spot duty. sometimes those stat sheets are incorrect as hoo goes in. but if it's correct, i'd say his eligibility is slim and none and slim's in texas.
He’s a better player than Donnelly. Better athlete too. True goal scorer but is a willing passer. Strong two handed dodger with quickness. Played Midfield in HS and had 106 points. I’m thinking he runs in that spot Siracusa had on the first midfield w Erksa and we insert Ford in that crease attack spot.10stone5 wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 6:01 pm Bryce Ford was a definite bright spot in an otherwise dismal CAA season, he was especially productive in CAA play.
A good comparable would be Sean Donnelly who transferred from the CAA to Penn State and was a key end of season contributor.
Personally, I believe Tillman can get more out of Ford than Tambroni got out of Donnelly, with the added, important incentive that Ford can get an NCAA tournament on his resume.
Fairfield hasn’t sniffed the NCAAs in years.
Tillman can look at his tapes from a couple years back, Ford was more of an assist man.
It doesn’t look like Brennan is coming backkeno in reno wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 7:50 am Are Murphy or Brennan returning? Both were 2020 freshmen, then redshirted in '21 so there should be eligibility.
Brennan had such potential, I thought he would have had an AA career. Also started to perk up a bit late this year.AreaLax wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 10:21 amIt doesn’t look like Brennan is coming backkeno in reno wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 7:50 am Are Murphy or Brennan returning? Both were 2020 freshmen, then redshirted in '21 so there should be eligibility.
Brennan was hurt in 2021, and didn't play. So he would have a 6th year if he wanted it, but he's gonna be like 24 and the team isn't in the spot to be keeping 24 year old second midfielders around IMOWheels wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:50 pm Pretty sure Brennan is out of eligibility. Was a freshman on the 2020 team, played in 2021, 2022, 2023, and now 2024. That's the same sequence for guys like Siracusa.
I'd be surprised, too, if Murphy came back for one more year.
Brennan had such a great 2022 season. The shooting slump he went into in 2023 was one of the greater mysteries of that season. Everyone in the program had very high hopes for him, but he couldn't shake the funk. Worked hard as hell. Kept being a great teammate. That remained the case this year.
Murphy was just never a ball carrier. When surrounded with the 2022 talent and experience, his ability to shoot made a difference. When he had to take on a bigger role, he struggled with turnovers. He always seemed to zig when everyone else thought he would zag.
Definitely wish those guys well. Brennan is a great student and will do well out there in the work world. Murphy will find a spot somewhere and get back to his gunslinging ways.
Totally forgot about Brennan's injury in 2021.jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:03 pmBrennan was hurt in 2021, and didn't play. So he would have a 6th year if he wanted it, but he's gonna be like 24 and the team isn't in the spot to be keeping 24 year old second midfielders around IMOWheels wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:50 pm Pretty sure Brennan is out of eligibility. Was a freshman on the 2020 team, played in 2021, 2022, 2023, and now 2024. That's the same sequence for guys like Siracusa.
I'd be surprised, too, if Murphy came back for one more year.
Brennan had such a great 2022 season. The shooting slump he went into in 2023 was one of the greater mysteries of that season. Everyone in the program had very high hopes for him, but he couldn't shake the funk. Worked hard as hell. Kept being a great teammate. That remained the case this year.
Murphy was just never a ball carrier. When surrounded with the 2022 talent and experience, his ability to shoot made a difference. When he had to take on a bigger role, he struggled with turnovers. He always seemed to zig when everyone else thought he would zag.
Definitely wish those guys well. Brennan is a great student and will do well out there in the work world. Murphy will find a spot somewhere and get back to his gunslinging ways.
Same goes for Murphy, but if he wants to keep it rolling, he'll do well at Providence next year