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O'Neill 19 games 54 g 29.7 sh% 27 A 81 pts 4.26 pts/g (23rd in D1) 34 GB 20 TO 3CT
Yes, Wayer would be my #1, at worst #2.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:56 am Not a great list but not bad.
The only things that stood out to me were:
- Ben Wayer got snubbed. He’s at worst a 2nd Team AA. 92 GB’s, 27 Caused Turnovers, and 13 points is an insane state line. Especially with the tough schedule UVA played.
- I would swap Mclane with Dobson on the 2nd team. He’s been way more productive and you can’t use the excuse of Mclane goes against a shorty because Dobson has also gotten the shorty a lot this year due to Faison’s dodging ability.
- Brandau should be a first teamer over O’Neill or Kav. Pretty self explanatory but O’Neill had some stinkers this year. Great player but his name definitely carried him to the 1st team.
Due to last year think he’s been playing hurt this year as he’s come in in the playoffsBetweenTheLines wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:54 am Excited to see Lyght get the respect he deserves. Dobson on 2nd team is... interesting.
The reason there are more than 3 at a position is because of ties in the voting. Not sure of a fair way to determine who should get the spot. I suppose they could do a revote for the ties? Regardless, the spots are deserved - it’s not a case of “grade inflation”.getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 4:57 pm I admit my changes are nitpicking but these are my changes. You are limited to 3 Attack, 3 mid, 3 D, 1 LSM, 2 SSDM and 1 Goalie each team. Simple.
Then Brandau over O'Neill pretty easy
McLane at 2nd over Dobson -switch
Kastner switches with Brower-
Figueiras replaces Dwan Dwan to HM
I want to move Mayer up but over who Love T Carpenter's game and Zupicich had a wonderful season. Leaves me to think what was P Myers thinking not playing this kid much last year
My biggest gripes are some kids not getting HM. Robinson from Delaware and McNaney from MD
Still weird in a system where Lyons and johnson also dropped 55-65pts last year as underclassmen and didn’t play this year. Can cut both ways in terms of soulful for Brandau but the system is set up to generate pts clearly.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 3:13 pmO'Neill 19 games 54 g 29.7 sh% 27 A 81 pts 4.26 pts/g (23rd in D1) 34 GB 20 TO 3CT
Brandau 15 games 44 g 36.1 sh% 57 A 101 pts 6.73 pts/g (#1 in D1) 35 GB 27 TO 3CT
O'Neill is a load for opponents to defend, but this ain't a close call. Not remotely.
In the sense that it’s a “we’d rather not make a hard decision and so we will give them all trophies” - there’s a million ways to solve a tie they just don’t want to be held accountable for it when it’s easier to just flood the listing with namesrolldodge wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 6:55 pmThe reason there are more than 3 at a position is because of ties in the voting. Not sure of a fair way to determine who should get the spot. I suppose they could do a revote for the ties? Regardless, the spots are deserved - it’s not a case of “grade inflation”.getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 4:57 pm I admit my changes are nitpicking but these are my changes. You are limited to 3 Attack, 3 mid, 3 D, 1 LSM, 2 SSDM and 1 Goalie each team. Simple.
Then Brandau over O'Neill pretty easy
McLane at 2nd over Dobson -switch
Kastner switches with Brower-
Figueiras replaces Dwan Dwan to HM
I want to move Mayer up but over who Love T Carpenter's game and Zupicich had a wonderful season. Leaves me to think what was P Myers thinking not playing this kid much last year
My biggest gripes are some kids not getting HM. Robinson from Delaware and McNaney from MD
I dont see any way to say McNaney deserved HM. He had one of the worst season of any goalie in the Big 10.getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 4:57 pm I admit my changes are nitpicking but these are my changes. You are limited to 3 Attack, 3 mid, 3 D, 1 LSM, 2 SSDM and 1 Goalie each team. Simple.
Then Brandau over O'Neill pretty easy
McLane at 2nd over Dobson -switch
Kastner switches with Brower-
Figueiras replaces Dwan Dwan to HM
I want to move Mayer up but over who Love T Carpenter's game and Zupicich had a wonderful season. Leaves me to think what was P Myers thinking not playing this kid much last year
My biggest gripes are some kids not getting HM. Robinson from Delaware and McNaney from MD
I have to agree on Figueiras. Not sure how he didn't get at least HM. He finished 2nd in the ACC for CTO behind Kastner and statistically is better than several that are on the HM list.getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 4:57 pm I admit my changes are nitpicking but these are my changes. You are limited to 3 Attack, 3 mid, 3 D, 1 LSM, 2 SSDM and 1 Goalie each team. Simple.
Then Brandau over O'Neill pretty easy
McLane at 2nd over Dobson -switch
Kastner switches with Brower-
Figueiras replaces Dwan Dwan to HM
I want to move Mayer up but over who Love T Carpenter's game and Zupicich had a wonderful season. Leaves me to think what was P Myers thinking not playing this kid much last year
My biggest gripes are some kids not getting HM. Robinson from Delaware and McNaney from MD
Yeah I love McNaney and I’m glad he’s the terp’s goalie, but he didn’t have a great regular season by any stretch.coda wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 10:28 amI dont see any way to say McNaney deserved HM. He had one of the worst season of any goalie in the Big 10.getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 4:57 pm I admit my changes are nitpicking but these are my changes. You are limited to 3 Attack, 3 mid, 3 D, 1 LSM, 2 SSDM and 1 Goalie each team. Simple.
Then Brandau over O'Neill pretty easy
McLane at 2nd over Dobson -switch
Kastner switches with Brower-
Figueiras replaces Dwan Dwan to HM
I want to move Mayer up but over who Love T Carpenter's game and Zupicich had a wonderful season. Leaves me to think what was P Myers thinking not playing this kid much last year
My biggest gripes are some kids not getting HM. Robinson from Delaware and McNaney from MD
PulpExposure wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 1:22 pmYeah I love McNaney and I’m glad he’s the terp’s goalie, but he didn’t have a great regular season by any stretch.coda wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 10:28 amI dont see any way to say McNaney deserved HM. He had one of the worst season of any goalie in the Big 10.getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 4:57 pm I admit my changes are nitpicking but these are my changes. You are limited to 3 Attack, 3 mid, 3 D, 1 LSM, 2 SSDM and 1 Goalie each team. Simple.
Then Brandau over O'Neill pretty easy
McLane at 2nd over Dobson -switch
Kastner switches with Brower-
Figueiras replaces Dwan Dwan to HM
I want to move Mayer up but over who Love T Carpenter's game and Zupicich had a wonderful season. Leaves me to think what was P Myers thinking not playing this kid much last year
My biggest gripes are some kids not getting HM. Robinson from Delaware and McNaney from MD
Question u have to ask yourself if Brandau was on Duke I think he averages 5 PPG, I don’t think ONeil averages 6.5 playing for YaleFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 7:01 pmStill weird in a system where Lyons and johnson also dropped 55-65pts last year as underclassmen and didn’t play this year. Can cut both ways in terms of soulful for Brandau but the system is set up to generate pts clearly.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 3:13 pmO'Neill 19 games 54 g 29.7 sh% 27 A 81 pts 4.26 pts/g (23rd in D1) 34 GB 20 TO 3CT
Brandau 15 games 44 g 36.1 sh% 57 A 101 pts 6.73 pts/g (#1 in D1) 35 GB 27 TO 3CT
O'Neill is a load for opponents to defend, but this ain't a close call. Not remotely.
I don't have a dog in the hunt for either player, or their teams, but that's a pretty big claim which can never be proven. We do know that O' Neill got his facing much better defenders in a much tougher schedule..... We all saw how good the Ivy League was this year..........Additionally, why do you think PLL teams made O'Neill the 1st pick and not Brandau if the latter is so much better? interestingly, Brandau wasn't even amongst the top 3 attack taken...........................lorin wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 3:30 pmQuestion u have to ask yourself if Brandau was on Duke I think he averages 5 PPG, I don’t think ONeil averages 6.5 playing for YaleFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 7:01 pmStill weird in a system where Lyons and johnson also dropped 55-65pts last year as underclassmen and didn’t play this year. Can cut both ways in terms of soulful for Brandau but the system is set up to generate pts clearly.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 3:13 pmO'Neill 19 games 54 g 29.7 sh% 27 A 81 pts 4.26 pts/g (23rd in D1) 34 GB 20 TO 3CT
Brandau 15 games 44 g 36.1 sh% 57 A 101 pts 6.73 pts/g (#1 in D1) 35 GB 27 TO 3CT
O'Neill is a load for opponents to defend, but this ain't a close call. Not remotely.
It's an award to reward the best player for that season, not to reward the best pro prospect. How many times is the Heismann trophy winner the top pick in the NFL draft?blue angels wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 4:22 pmI don't have a dog in the hunt for either player, or their teams, but that's a pretty big claim which can never be proven. We do know that O' Neill got his facing much better defenders in a much tougher schedule..... We all saw how good the Ivy League was this year..........Additionally, why do you think PLL teams made O'Neill the 1st pick and not Brandau if the latter is so much better? interestingly, Brandau wasn't even amongst the top 3 attack taken...........................lorin wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 3:30 pmQuestion u have to ask yourself if Brandau was on Duke I think he averages 5 PPG, I don’t think ONeil averages 6.5 playing for YaleFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 7:01 pmStill weird in a system where Lyons and johnson also dropped 55-65pts last year as underclassmen and didn’t play this year. Can cut both ways in terms of soulful for Brandau but the system is set up to generate pts clearly.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 3:13 pmO'Neill 19 games 54 g 29.7 sh% 27 A 81 pts 4.26 pts/g (23rd in D1) 34 GB 20 TO 3CT
Brandau 15 games 44 g 36.1 sh% 57 A 101 pts 6.73 pts/g (#1 in D1) 35 GB 27 TO 3CT
O'Neill is a load for opponents to defend, but this ain't a close call. Not remotely.
You are the asking the wrong guy , I wish I had the answer personally I would have taken Shellenberger. I can’t get pass the ND games for O’Neil 3 points total. Shelly average 6 per game in TournamentChousnake wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 4:47 pmIt's an award to reward the best player for that season, not to reward the best pro prospect. How many times is the Heismann trophy winner the top pick in the NFL draft?blue angels wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 4:22 pmI don't have a dog in the hunt for either player, or their teams, but that's a pretty big claim which can never be proven. We do know that O' Neill got his facing much better defenders in a much tougher schedule..... We all saw how good the Ivy League was this year..........Additionally, why do you think PLL teams made O'Neill the 1st pick and not Brandau if the latter is so much better? interestingly, Brandau wasn't even amongst the top 3 attack taken...........................lorin wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 3:30 pmQuestion u have to ask yourself if Brandau was on Duke I think he averages 5 PPG, I don’t think ONeil averages 6.5 playing for YaleFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 7:01 pmStill weird in a system where Lyons and johnson also dropped 55-65pts last year as underclassmen and didn’t play this year. Can cut both ways in terms of soulful for Brandau but the system is set up to generate pts clearly.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 3:13 pmO'Neill 19 games 54 g 29.7 sh% 27 A 81 pts 4.26 pts/g (23rd in D1) 34 GB 20 TO 3CT
Brandau 15 games 44 g 36.1 sh% 57 A 101 pts 6.73 pts/g (#1 in D1) 35 GB 27 TO 3CT
O'Neill is a load for opponents to defend, but this ain't a close call. Not remotely.
Shelly wasn’t exactly a star against ND this year either.lorin wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 5:10 pmYou are the asking the wrong guy , I wish I had the answer personally I would have taken Shellenberger. I can’t get pass the ND games for O’Neil 3 points total. Shelly average 6 per game in TournamentChousnake wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 4:47 pmIt's an award to reward the best player for that season, not to reward the best pro prospect. How many times is the Heismann trophy winner the top pick in the NFL draft?blue angels wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 4:22 pmI don't have a dog in the hunt for either player, or their teams, but that's a pretty big claim which can never be proven. We do know that O' Neill got his facing much better defenders in a much tougher schedule..... We all saw how good the Ivy League was this year..........Additionally, why do you think PLL teams made O'Neill the 1st pick and not Brandau if the latter is so much better? interestingly, Brandau wasn't even amongst the top 3 attack taken...........................lorin wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 3:30 pmQuestion u have to ask yourself if Brandau was on Duke I think he averages 5 PPG, I don’t think ONeil averages 6.5 playing for YaleFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 7:01 pmStill weird in a system where Lyons and johnson also dropped 55-65pts last year as underclassmen and didn’t play this year. Can cut both ways in terms of soulful for Brandau but the system is set up to generate pts clearly.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 3:13 pmO'Neill 19 games 54 g 29.7 sh% 27 A 81 pts 4.26 pts/g (23rd in D1) 34 GB 20 TO 3CT
Brandau 15 games 44 g 36.1 sh% 57 A 101 pts 6.73 pts/g (#1 in D1) 35 GB 27 TO 3CT
O'Neill is a load for opponents to defend, but this ain't a close call. Not remotely.