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Wheels wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:23 pm John Geppert is always criminally underrated.

OSVAlacrosse wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:18 pm Each has the favorites for different reasons I think two snubs are:

Sam Cambere LSM Utah and Dalton Young A Richmond.

Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:36 pm

Wheels wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:23 pm John Geppert is always criminally underrated.

I agree that Geppert is extremely underrated and never talked about enough, but realistically... who would you take out of the teamer LSM's to replace Geppert with?

Meyer had 80 GB's/60 CT's
Carpenter 67 GB's/17 CT's
Rall with 52 GB's/30 CT's

I know stats don't tell the whole stories but those guys were the heart and soul of their defense. Without them those defenses abilities drop tremendously.

Again, I think Geppert is a beast and I love the story of him going from High School top 100 Middie to LSM in college, but I just don't think you could put him ahead of any of those guys.

Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:36 pm

Wheels wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:23 pm John Geppert is always criminally underrated.

I agree that Geppert is extremely underrated and never talked about enough, but realistically... who would you take out of the teamer LSM's to replace Geppert with?

Meyer had 80 GB's/60 CT's
Carpenter 67 GB's/17 CT's
Rall with 52 GB's/30 CT's

I know stats don't tell the whole stories but those guys were the heart and soul of their defense. Without them those defenses abilities drop tremendously.

Again, I think Geppert is a beast and I love the story of him going from High School top 100 Middie to LSM in college, but I just don't think you could put him ahead of any of those guys.

jff97 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:45 pm https://usalaxmagazine.com/college/men/ ... f-the-year
Preseason Player of the Year: Sam Handley
Attackman of the Year: Connor Shellenberger
Midfielder of the Year: Handley
Defender of the Year: Will Bowen
Goalie of the Year: Liam Entenmann

Wheels wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:36 am

Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:36 pm

Wheels wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:23 pm John Geppert is always criminally underrated.

I agree that Geppert is extremely underrated and never talked about enough, but realistically... who would you take out of the teamer LSM's to replace Geppert with?

Meyer had 80 GB's/60 CT's
Carpenter 67 GB's/17 CT's
Rall with 52 GB's/30 CT's

I know stats don't tell the whole stories but those guys were the heart and soul of their defense. Without them those defenses abilities drop tremendously.

Again, I think Geppert is a beast and I love the story of him going from High School top 100 Middie to LSM in college, but I just don't think you could put him ahead of any of those guys.

Fair enough question, and defensive analytics aren't nearly as developed as offensive (props to Zack at LaxRef for really doing great things on team and offensive metrics). It's impossible know how Geppert would perform in Rutgers's scheme or how Meyer would perform in Maryland's scheme. Having seen Maryland blowtorch Rutgers's defense in every way possible over the past two years, I sometimes don't know how to view what someone like Rall does over the course of year. Maryland certainly didn't shy away from attacking him over and over with its first and second midfield lines.

Carpenter...I kinda view a lot of Duke players the same way. Lots of hype. ESPN guys love him. Would have loved to see him play another game against UVA last year, but the ACC's unbalanced schedule didn't allow it.

As for Meyer, I was really excited to see him play in the NCAA Tournament, and BU got dismantled in every way possible. So I don't know what to think about Meyer. Does he feast on lower quality opponents? He's certainly active. Is he as disruptive playing against an ACC slate of opponent? Or B1G opponents? Like Rall, he's not the biggest of guys. Geppert might not be the 6'3", 210 pounds that Maryland lists him at...but he's not far off from that.

IMO, Geppert's the best LSM in the college game. Big enough to handle mack trucks that UVA runs through its midfield, athletic enough to handle attack men when he's switched on to them, a terror on the face-off wings and in transition (his gb scoop at the midfield line in the QF was absurd), and smart enough to QB a defense from up top.

Wheels wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:47 pm They way Cornell used Adler in the title game was something I can't recall ever seeing before. Adler literally shifted all over the field to take on whoever got hot for Maryland. Started on Wisnauskas, moved to Khan, took on Malever, bumped up to the midfield to guard DeMaio, shifted over to Long...and on and on. It didn't happen by happenstance or on switches. It was clearly intentional. He might have been the best player on the entire field during the title game.

As for Zappitello and Makar, it doesn't make any sense to even call them 1A or 1B or whatever. They're both top cover guys who have really good athleticism. Makar is definitely more aggressive on- and off-ball, and Zappitello's footwork is elite. Shutting out Shellenberger speaks for itself. Because they're both so good, it allows Tillman and Bernhardt to mix and match assignments to throw opponents off.

But no one is going to put 2 defensemen from the same team on the first-team AA list, so ties goes to the elder!

Ezra White wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:21 pm

Wheels wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:47 pm They way Cornell used Adler in the title game was something I can't recall ever seeing before. Adler literally shifted all over the field to take on whoever got hot for Maryland. Started on Wisnauskas, moved to Khan, took on Malever, bumped up to the midfield to guard DeMaio, shifted over to Long...and on and on. It didn't happen by happenstance or on switches. It was clearly intentional. He might have been the best player on the entire field during the title game.

As for Zappitello and Makar, it doesn't make any sense to even call them 1A or 1B or whatever. They're both top cover guys who have really good athleticism. Makar is definitely more aggressive on- and off-ball, and Zappitello's footwork is elite. Shutting out Shellenberger speaks for itself. Because they're both so good, it allows Tillman and Bernhardt to mix and match assignments to throw opponents off.

But no one is going to put 2 defensemen from the same team on the first-team AA list, so ties goes to the elder!

Adler also defends in a way I've never seen a defender play before. Most defenders mark their man and try to prevent them from shooting, making a pass, or beating the defender. They also slide to help out teammates. In other words, they react to the attack. In contrast, Adler actively attacks the attackers. If you're an attackman, for example, you have to defend from Adler causing a turnover.

I think it's fair to say most player on offense aren't used to this style of defense.