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Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 7:44 am
by Farfromgeneva
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 7:40 am
DMac wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 6:45 am
Cornell, 13-11.
Cornell is playing gorgeous lacrosse, got the eye of the tiger, fire in the belly.
They aint gonna get beat by "the greatest team ever" sitting high on their
undefeated perch.
Book it.
Come on Dmac, if it's Cornell/Maryland, the score HAS TO BE 16-13 CORNELL. Yup, I love living in the past.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Me too!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y9QRW8ffxMY
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 7:46 am
by joewillie78
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 7:44 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 7:40 am
DMac wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 6:45 am
Cornell, 13-11.
Cornell is playing gorgeous lacrosse, got the eye of the tiger, fire in the belly.
They aint gonna get beat by "the greatest team ever" sitting high on their
undefeated perch.
Book it.
Come on Dmac, if it's Cornell/Maryland, the score HAS TO BE 16-13 CORNELL. Yup, I love living in the past.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Me too!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y9QRW8ffxMY
That is such a cool video. Great memory.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
by joewillie78
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:09 am
by Peter Brown
DMac wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 10:07 pm
Only choices are blowout and squeaker, how 'bout by a few?
“Squeaker” = 5 or lesss
“Blowout” = 5 or more
The bubble 5 decision = who scored last, were starters in til the end, did the refs call the game fair.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:10 am
by Peter Brown
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Logan will have 9” on Adler if that’s the matchup
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:13 am
by FannOLax
Perhaps this is the final that Richie Moran would have wanted. Here's hoping for a game worthy of the great man's legacy.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:31 am
by Peter Brown
Rewatched Rutgers Cornell this morning on ESPN.
It’s always hard to tell if the team you think is playing awful is playing awful because of the other team, or unfortunately they’re just playing awful. What I’ll say is Rutgers defense slid as poorly as a team defense can. There’s a Piatelli goal on an assist from Kirst where 4 Rutgers defenders ball watch Kirst and come out to slide as he moves. Incredible. Very little coordination among the Scarlet Knights. Piatelli easily scored in front.
That one play seemed to be a microcosm of the day for Rutgers. And it could be that it was Cornell causing their brain motors to shut down.
I don’t think Maryland will do anything like that, even if they were down 10.
Kirst is a very good dodger, and Piatelli knows where to drift off ball. Long is just a steady presence.
Like ever, if Cornell can neutralize the FO’s to 50/50 or better, they can win.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:39 am
by joewillie78
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:10 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Logan will have 9” on Adler if that’s the matchup
Ok, what's your point? Gavin is about 5'8", heck, even some of the "lollipop guild" in the Wizard of Oz would have a height advantage on Gavin. Means absolutely nothing to that dude.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:52 am
by Farfromgeneva
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:39 am
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:10 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
The poster has a certain envy
Logan will have 9” on Adler if that’s the matchup
Ok, what's your point?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:55 am
by Peter Brown
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:39 am
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:10 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Logan will have 9” on Adler if that’s the matchup
Ok, what's your point? Gavin is about 5'8", heck, even some of the "lollipop guild" in the Wizard of Oz would have a height advantage on Gavin. Means absolutely nothing to that dude.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
You don’t always have to have a ‘point’. It’s an observation. Maybe Adler is the ideal size to neutralize Logan. Got to play the game to find out.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:58 am
by joewillie78
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:55 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:39 am
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:10 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Logan will have 9” on Adler if that’s the matchup
Ok, what's your point? Gavin is about 5'8", heck, even some of the "lollipop guild" in the Wizard of Oz would have a height advantage on Gavin. Means absolutely nothing to that dude.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
You don’t always have to have a ‘point’. It’s an observation. Maybe Adler is the ideal size to neutralize Logan. Got to play the game to find out.
Fair enough.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 9:59 am
by MDGrad2012
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
For the record I think Cornell would be crazy to put Adler on anyone but Khan. Princeton put Baughan, their top cover guy, on Wis, and Khan torched them right away. Wis got his anyway, because he gets shots in the flow of the offense, not off dodges. If he sees a matchup he likes (a shorty typically), he will dodge it, but he is not the initiator. Khan is the top MD dodger from the attack, especially now that Murphy is really the 3rd attack. Adler is the best on ball defender in the country. It isn't close. But shutting down Wis is completely different than shutting down Scott or Myers because most of the work is off ball.
Obviously Madalon and staff know better than me, as I am just a guy on an internet message board, but as a MD fan I was elated to see Baughan on Wis instead of Khan.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:02 am
by Wheels
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Do you think Adler will cover Logan? Logan is such an off-ball player, and Adler usually covers the opponent's best initiator. I could see him on Khan.
But Princeton did send Baughan to Wisnauskas yesterday, which was different than the first time they played. Baughan and Finlay nearly shut out Khan and Malever in their first match up (Billings took Wisnauskas, who went 4 and 2). Yesterday, they changed those match ups, and Khan went 3 and 2 and Logan had 4 goals.
What I'm more curious about is Cornell's defensive midfield. The Terps starting midfield has 52, 49, and 40 point scorers. Princeton actually bumped one of their close defenders up to DeMaio yesterday, as DeMaio was on a point scoring binge prior to yesterday but was held to a single assist.
Kyle Long is the distributor of the group, and he is probably the fastest player on the team. DeMaio is a shooter with deceptive dodging. And you all know Donville.
How does Cornell defend that group.
And when MD's second midfield line comes in, you get Owen Murphy (39 points), who is a Connor Kelly clone. You get Jack Brennan (19 point), who is a classic, athletic, downhill dodger who can shoot with either hand. And the third spot, if he's healthy, is Jack Koras (15 points), who is cutter and finisher that will sometimes beat his defender behind the goal on inverts. The tricky part about the second midfield line is that Malever actually runs through the box as a midfielder when that group is in, as Murphy plays on the wing.
How does Cornell defend that group of midfielders?
At the other end, Cornell's starting attack is responsible for 63% of Cornell's total goals, 54% of Cornell's total assists, and 60% of Cornell's overall point scoring. I'd guess that Makar takes Kirst, Zappitello takes Long, and Rahill takes Piatelli. UVA and Princeton did everything they could to get Rahill out in space to defend dodging threats, as his best skills are in off-ball defense and coordinating the defense. If you watched Maryland's defense over the past couple of months, their slide and recoveries have been as beautifully coordinated as the offense's ball movement.
Does Maryland slide off of a Piatelli? Can Piatelli dodge Rahill in space? Princeton inverted Mackesy to get Rahill defending up top like a LSM, and that's where Mackesy got his only goal...on an alley dodge. He was 1-8 shooting on the day.
Rutgers got caught ball-watching several times yesterday, and Cornell finishers had a field day in front of RU's Kirst. Maryland's defense is notoriously slow to slide, especially to their shorties. They'll leave their shorties out on an island and won't slide at all to them. If Cornell's midfielders can't win their match-ups, Maryland's defense won't give up anything except for 15 yard shots. Cornell needs someone besides Long to draw slides.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:08 am
by laxjuris
Wheels wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 10:02 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Do you think Adler will cover Logan? Logan is such an off-ball player, and Adler usually covers the opponent's best initiator. I could see him on Khan.
But Princeton did send Baughan to Wisnauskas yesterday, which was different than the first time they played. Baughan and Finlay nearly shut out Khan and Malever in their first match up (Billings took Wisnauskas, who went 4 and 2). Yesterday, they changed those match ups, and Khan went 3 and 2 and Logan had 4 goals.
What I'm more curious about is Cornell's defensive midfield. The Terps starting midfield has 52, 49, and 40 point scorers. Princeton actually bumped one of their close defenders up to DeMaio yesterday, as DeMaio was on a point scoring binge prior to yesterday but was held to a single assist.
Kyle Long is the distributor of the group, and he is probably the fastest player on the team. DeMaio is a shooter with deceptive dodging. And you all know Donville.
How does Cornell defend that group.
And when MD's second midfield line comes in, you get Owen Murphy (39 points), who is a Connor Kelly clone. You get Jack Brennan (19 point), who is a classic, athletic, downhill dodger who can shoot with either hand. And the third spot, if he's healthy, is Jack Koras (15 points), who is cutter and finisher that will sometimes beat his defender behind the goal on inverts. The tricky part about the second midfield line is that Malever actually runs through the box as a midfielder when that group is in, as Murphy plays on the wing.
How does Cornell defend that group of midfielders?
At the other end, Cornell's starting attack is responsible for 63% of Cornell's total goals, 54% of Cornell's total assists, and 60% of Cornell's overall point scoring. I'd guess that Makar takes Kirst, Zappitello takes Long, and Rahill takes Piatelli. UVA and Princeton did everything they could to get Rahill out in space to defend dodging threats, as his best skills are in off-ball defense and coordinating the defense. If you watched Maryland's defense over the past couple of months, their slide and recoveries have been as beautifully coordinated as the offense's ball movement.
Does Maryland slide off of a Piatelli? Can Piatelli dodge Rahill in space? Princeton inverted Mackesy to get Rahill defending up top like a LSM, and that's where Mackesy got his only goal...on an alley dodge. He was 1-8 shooting on the day.
Rutgers got caught ball-watching several times yesterday, and Cornell finishers had a field day in front of RU's Kirst. Maryland's defense is notoriously slow to slide, especially to their shorties. They'll leave their shorties out on an island and won't slide at all to them. If Cornell's midfielders can't win their match-ups, Maryland's defense won't give up anything except for 15 yard shots. Cornell needs someone besides Long to draw slides.
Excellent analysis, which highlights that Maryland has strength in every aspect of the game. Cornell has the ultimate challenge on its hands.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:34 am
by MoralTerpitude
I think folks are underrating how good Princeton is. They are the second best team in the country, and sprinted through two very good teams in BU and Yale. The Princeton-Yale game was not really competitive, Paquette kept it from being a blowout in the first quarter.
Princeton was never going to be an easy match… but the Terps were still up 11-4 on them at one point.
Cornell is probably playing just as well as Princeton, but they have had an easier road thus far, so it’s harder to gauge. I do think Rutgers laid an egg yesterday, and did not play their best. Brecht said as much at the Rutgers presser.
The major issue the Terps face is recovery from their most physical game of the year.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:25 am
by youthathletics
Facoffs are key....just like the year Chris Mattes worked so very hard to neutralize Baptiste in 2017. Sure, back then they could kneel and moto-grip, but Terps kept the .dot damned near equal going 48% 10/21. Smoked them on GB's and shots. Tierney was still doing his pass the ball around for ever looking for the ideal shot...even with the best faceoff man in the county and held his men back.
Reminder, this was also the year TIllman finally acknowledged that he was hanging on too tight with control of his men. Rambo assured him "we got this coach"....and Tillman acknowledged, the rest was history. TIllman became a better coach that year, realized an adjustment was needed (give up some control) and likely began recruiting/practicing differently as a result.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:48 am
by Farfromgeneva
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 7:46 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 7:44 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 7:40 am
DMac wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 6:45 am
Cornell, 13-11.
Cornell is playing gorgeous lacrosse, got the eye of the tiger, fire in the belly.
They aint gonna get beat by "the greatest team ever" sitting high on their
undefeated perch.
Book it.
Come on Dmac, if it's Cornell/Maryland, the score HAS TO BE 16-13 CORNELL. Yup, I love living in the past.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Me too!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y9QRW8ffxMY
That is such a cool video. Great memory.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Funny thing is we link it yet notorious Cuse fan, Afan, is the one who put it up on youtube
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:57 am
by Peter Brown
Wheels wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 10:02 am
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 8:02 am
Ok, we have all been wanting to see this matchup but no one wanted to bring it up until it was final.
The BEST ATTACKMAN in the country LOGAN WISNAUSKIS vs THE BEST CLOSE D POLE in the country; GAVIN ADLER.
Gavin has shut them all down and now he gets the best. This will be must see Lacrosse at its finest.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Do you think Adler will cover Logan? Logan is such an off-ball player, and Adler usually covers the opponent's best initiator. I could see him on Khan.
But Princeton did send Baughan to Wisnauskas yesterday, which was different than the first time they played. Baughan and Finlay nearly shut out Khan and Malever in their first match up (Billings took Wisnauskas, who went 4 and 2). Yesterday, they changed those match ups, and Khan went 3 and 2 and Logan had 4 goals.
What I'm more curious about is Cornell's defensive midfield. The Terps starting midfield has 52, 49, and 40 point scorers.
Princeton actually bumped one of their close defenders up to DeMaio yesterday, as DeMaio was on a point scoring binge prior to yesterday but was held to a single assist.
Kyle Long is the distributor of the group, and he is probably the fastest player on the team. DeMaio is a shooter with deceptive dodging. And you all know Donville.
How does Cornell defend that group.
And when MD's second midfield line comes in, you get Owen Murphy (39 points), who is a Connor Kelly clone. You get Jack Brennan (19 point), who is a classic, athletic, downhill dodger who can shoot with either hand. And the third spot, if he's healthy, is Jack Koras (15 points), who is cutter and finisher that will sometimes beat his defender behind the goal on inverts. The tricky part about the second midfield line is that Malever actually runs through the box as a midfielder when that group is in, as Murphy plays on the wing.
How does Cornell defend that group of midfielders?
At the other end, Cornell's starting attack is responsible for 63% of Cornell's total goals, 54% of Cornell's total assists, and 60% of Cornell's overall point scoring. I'd guess that Makar takes Kirst, Zappitello takes Long, and Rahill takes Piatelli. UVA and Princeton did everything they could to get Rahill out in space to defend dodging threats, as his best skills are in off-ball defense and coordinating the defense. If you watched Maryland's defense over the past couple of months, their slide and recoveries have been as beautifully coordinated as the offense's ball movement.
Does Maryland slide off of a Piatelli? Can Piatelli dodge Rahill in space? Princeton inverted Mackesy to get Rahill defending up top like a LSM, and that's where Mackesy got his only goal...on an alley dodge. He was 1-8 shooting on the day.
Rutgers got caught ball-watching several times yesterday, and Cornell finishers had a field day in front of RU's Kirst. Maryland's defense is notoriously slow to slide, especially to their shorties. They'll leave their shorties out on an island and won't slide at all to them. If Cornell's midfielders can't win their match-ups, Maryland's defense won't give up anything except for 15 yard shots. Cornell needs someone besides Long to draw slides.
Regarding Demaio from yesterday, he had a few relatively open looks at the net and simply didn’t put the ball on cage. One shot was way off. He’s an intense guy, and I bet he’d like to have that game back. I’m thinking he’s going to go off tomorrow.
If Pugliese is out, the entire team will need to step it up. I think Makar and Fairman will also need some lift by others; Makar took a big hit, and Fairman took a ball to the head.
Princeton abused Alex Smith all game. Not fast enough imo. Is he injured, too?
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 12:01 pm
by masondixonlax
joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 7:40 am
DMac wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 6:45 am
Cornell, 13-11.
Cornell is playing gorgeous lacrosse, got the eye of the tiger, fire in the belly.
They aint gonna get beat by "the greatest team ever" sitting high on their
undefeated perch.
Book it.
Come on Dmac, if it's Cornell/Maryland, the score HAS TO BE 16-13 CORNELL. Yup, I love living in the past.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Can't wait for Cornell to lose so joewillie will pipe down
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 12:11 pm
by nyjay
I'm rooting for the Terps in a blowout. Not that I'm a Terps fan or have anything against Cornell. I just love to see excellence. And capping this historically good season off with a big win in the championship would confirm what we've seen all season - that this Terps team is the best team in a long, long time and arguably ever. I want to see that happen live.