Re: Racism in America- Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 10:36 am
Same Party, Different House
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Getting your news from the Bernie Sanders "Way of the Bern" Reddit page?Brooklyn wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:35 am That's what they claim. But as you know a picture is worth a thousand words.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/c ... arted_the/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU3_SDCpwq0
Clearly he wasn't a civilian. Notice how he reacts just like a cop does by pushing away the camera.
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:12 am CNN reporter arrested while broadcasting, for no apparent reason (?). handled it as well as he could. impressive for a 26 year old. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/2 ... ay-vpx.cnn
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:53 am
Getting your news from the Bernie Sanders "Way of the Bern" Reddit page?
C'mon Man.
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:57 amChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:12 am CNN reporter arrested while broadcasting, for no apparent reason (?). handled it as well as he could. impressive for a 26 year old. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/2 ... ay-vpx.cnn
They arrest the reporter and not the dude shooting mortar fireworks into the gasoline drenched government building.
So you DO agree that cops can do things like that....maybe like, even to Flynn? Would you call that a Blue Deep State"Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:36 am https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_p ... ted_States
I think the Chairman knows this is a little more complicated than our animal predisposition to self-interest and instant gratification. Putting aside the really terrifying ends of the spectrum, it sure seems like the social contract is failing some people. The basic deal is that in exchange for the civil protections provided by the state and civil governance, we will put away the tools outside of the political process. It really doesn't matter who is first in breach of that promise; the result is discord and violence. And we let the violence and its excess get in the way of asking why some folks are scared to jog, birdwatch and wear masks.ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:02 am here i was thinking covid might put a pause on racism, violence, crime, destruction.
nope- humans these days are just predisposed to self-interest and instant gratification
youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:05 amSo you DO agree that cops can do things like that....maybe like, even to Flynn? Would you call that a Blue Deep State"Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:36 am https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_p ... ted_States
Yet you quote something worse?Brooklyn wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:02 amkramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:53 am
Getting your news from the Bernie Sanders "Way of the Bern" Reddit page?
C'mon Man.
You right wingers have no trouble quoting Fo卐.
different things; i support the right to protest and other political tools.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:35 amI think the Chairman knows this is a little more complicated than our animal predisposition to self-interest and instant gratification. Putting aside the really terrifying ends of the spectrum, it sure seems like the social contract is failing some people. The basic deal is that in exchange for the civil protections provided by the state and civil governance, we will put away the tools outside of the political process. It really doesn't matter who is first in breach of that promise; the result is discord and violence. And we let the violence and its excess get in the way of asking why some folks are scared to jog, birdwatch and wear masks.ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:02 am here i was thinking covid might put a pause on racism, violence, crime, destruction.
nope- humans these days are just predisposed to self-interest and instant gratification
You and me both; understood. But what happens -- and what is OK -- when the protections society promises fail you? Just FTR, I wasn't criticizing you. I was saying that some pretty serious questions tend to get lost in the violence.ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:49 amdifferent things; i support the right to protest and other political tools.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:35 amI think the Chairman knows this is a little more complicated than our animal predisposition to self-interest and instant gratification. Putting aside the really terrifying ends of the spectrum, it sure seems like the social contract is failing some people. The basic deal is that in exchange for the civil protections provided by the state and civil governance, we will put away the tools outside of the political process. It really doesn't matter who is first in breach of that promise; the result is discord and violence. And we let the violence and its excess get in the way of asking why some folks are scared to jog, birdwatch and wear masks.ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:02 am here i was thinking covid might put a pause on racism, violence, crime, destruction.
nope- humans these days are just predisposed to self-interest and instant gratification
i don't support the right to burn down buildings and incite violence.
Bullsh*t. I'm not backing away from anything. I am asking if there is a dialogue to be had about why we are unraveling this way. The protests in Richmond and the violence and, sure, looting and excess in Minneapolis arise from different causes. Laughing emojis won't get the country through this.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:57 am The left was wringing its hands at the prospect of the armed protest in Richmond. "How can we let this occur? It's going to be unsafe!" Yet no arrests, violence, destruction or arson. Protesters cleaned up after the event. Richmond never missed a step and was back to normalcy following the protests.
Conversely, the left backs away slowly in Minneapolis and says, "The protests need to occur! Let 'em burn down the police precinct. Just give it to them - The social contract isn't working!"
sorry- thanks- when society fails, sure, protest. peacefully.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:59 amYou and me both; understood. But what happens -- and what is OK -- when the protections society promises fail you? Just FTR, I wasn't criticizing you. I was saying that some pretty serious questions tend to get lost in the violence.ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:49 amdifferent things; i support the right to protest and other political tools.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:35 amI think the Chairman knows this is a little more complicated than our animal predisposition to self-interest and instant gratification. Putting aside the really terrifying ends of the spectrum, it sure seems like the social contract is failing some people. The basic deal is that in exchange for the civil protections provided by the state and civil governance, we will put away the tools outside of the political process. It really doesn't matter who is first in breach of that promise; the result is discord and violence. And we let the violence and its excess get in the way of asking why some folks are scared to jog, birdwatch and wear masks.ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:02 am here i was thinking covid might put a pause on racism, violence, crime, destruction.
nope- humans these days are just predisposed to self-interest and instant gratification
i don't support the right to burn down buildings and incite violence.
Different causes? slightly. Both feel peoples inherent constitutional rights are being violated enough that they want to protest and show their feelings on the matter.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 12:01 pmBullsh*t. I'm not backing away from anything. I am asking if there is a dialogue to be had about why we are unraveling this way. The protests in Richmond and the violence and, sure, looting and excess in Minneapolis arise from different causes. Laughing emojis won't get the country through this.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:57 am The left was wringing its hands at the prospect of the armed protest in Richmond. "How can we let this occur? It's going to be unsafe!" Yet no arrests, violence, destruction or arson. Protesters cleaned up after the event. Richmond never missed a step and was back to normalcy following the protests.
Conversely, the left backs away slowly in Minneapolis and says, "The protests need to occur! Let 'em burn down the police precinct. Just give it to them - The social contract isn't working!"
Apples and Oranges. Richmond protesters weren't there protesting a black man killed by cops on video 24 hours previous. And like most riots, the people protesting peacefully, and the people inciting violence and looting aren't the same people. It's the criminal element in the neighborhood taking full advantage of the situation.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:57 am The left was wringing its hands at the prospect of the armed protest in Richmond. "How can we let this occur? It's going to be unsafe!" Yet no arrests, violence, destruction or arson. Protesters cleaned up after the event. Richmond never missed a step and was back to normalcy following the protests.
Conversely, the left backs away slowly in Minneapolis and says, "The protests need to occur! Let 'em burn down the police precinct. Just give it to them - The social contract isn't working!"
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:57 am The left was wringing its hands at the prospect of the armed protest in Richmond. "How can we let this occur? It's going to be unsafe!" Yet no arrests, violence, destruction or arson. Protesters cleaned up after the event. Richmond never missed a step and was back to normalcy following the protests.
Conversely, the left backs away slowly in Minneapolis and says, "The protests need to occur! Let 'em burn down the police precinct. Just give it to them - The social contract isn't working!"