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Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:39 am
by Peter Brown
Covid-19 rules really take away the point of the game. My opinion only.

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Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:44 am
by OCanada
Orfling outstanding post. Hopkins has a website for people who want to follow developments and get more data. I haven’t been there but my daughters spouse who is an AD at a well known D lll school does. They have cancelled an overseas team trip planed in the near future. They are also considering fan less games etc.

A preeminent pandemic said it may de roll into a bigger problem than SARD or Ebola. I got an email from a friend in Shanghai pop 20 million saying mortality was running 1.5 to 2 %. The WH prefers to count corona deaths as flu deaths to keep numbers down. Trump has ordered passengers on the cruise ship to stay on board because to quote him he didn’t want to double the number of reported cases

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:53 am
by OCanada
There are only 1 million hospital beds in the USA per report

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:20 am
by ICGrad
I should also point out that being concerned about the possibility of an epidemic has absolutely nothing to do with Political Correctness, which has become an odd boogeyman phrase that lazy people assign to anything and everything that they don't agree with and that inconveniences them.

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:30 am
by tech37
If you guys are going to be/get "political," please take it to the Politics board.

Thanks

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:38 am
by old salt
In the short term, with our wonderful escape into lacrosse, I think we'll have to be prepared for:

Changes in game locations (for example, University of North Carolina is restricting any university-affiliated travel to any states with a state of emergency -- right now that's Washington State, Florida, and California, but it could expand;
MD declared a state of emergency. I get the feeling that it's primarily a mechanism to access more state & fed funding.

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:43 am
by ICGrad
tech37 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:30 am If you guys are going to be/get "political," please take it to the Politics board.

Thanks
Huh, I thought you were kidding, but lo and behold...there's a Politics board.

Who would come to a lacrosse message board to argue politics? Odd...

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:53 am
by 44WeWantMore
If you find yourself liking and respecting the posters on the lacrosse threads, heading off to the political threads is a sure cure.

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:53 am
by OCanada
Tech. Facts aren’t political; they are facts. I see nothing political in the use of them

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:39 pm
by OCanada

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:00 pm
by bison137
OCanada wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:53 am The American Hospital Association apparently released
This.

American Hospital Association "Best Guess Epidemiology" for #codiv19 over next 2 months:

96,000,000 infections
4,800,000 hospitalizations
1,900,000 ICU admissions
480,000 deaths

vs flu in 2019:

35,500,000 infections
490,600 hospitalizations
49,000 ICU admissions
34,200 deaths

There are only 1 million hospital beds in the USA per report

I am curious as to why nothing about these predictions are shown on the AHA website.

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:42 pm
by 44WeWantMore
Data seem to indicate that a public health over-reaction to the Spanish Flu saved lives versus a wait-and-see approach:
https://marginalrevolution.com/marginal ... -1919.html

Essentially it is all about how quickly you can head off exponential growth.
https://twitter.com/LizSpecht/status/12 ... 0459003909

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:21 pm
by bison137
bison137 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:00 pm
OCanada wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:53 am The American Hospital Association apparently released
This.

American Hospital Association "Best Guess Epidemiology" for #codiv19 over next 2 months:

96,000,000 infections
4,800,000 hospitalizations
1,900,000 ICU admissions
480,000 deaths

vs flu in 2019:

35,500,000 infections
490,600 hospitalizations
49,000 ICU admissions
34,200 deaths

There are only 1 million hospital beds in the USA per report

I am curious as to why nothing about these predictions are shown on the AHA website.

The above reports did not sound credible, and a few minutes research confirm that. These estimates do not come from the AHA. Rather they were the opinion of one person, of many, who presented his own views on a webinar. There is no indication that they have been vetted by anyone, and the AHA certainly has not sanctioned them. They have gone out of their way to state that these numbers do not represent the view of the AHA.

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:23 am
by OCanada
Thank you. False data is becoming all too common. The post I saw was from someone credible who reposted so I assume it is be omg a narrative. I will edit it out

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:40 am
by tech37
OCanada wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:23 am Thank you. False data is becoming all too common. The post I saw was from someone credible who reposted so I assume it is be omg a narrative. I will edit it out
Those are the type of "facts" you referred to yesterday? "Credible," according to whom? :roll:

Again, let's keep the lacrosse board exclusively lacrosse...thanks

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:02 am
by OCanada
This a topic that is directly tied to the sport and will have consequences. Thanks for your concern. Yep I made an error. That’s one data error in about 20+ years. Anything that can directly impact the sport can and has been posted in the forums over the years including paying for athletes services etc

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:11 am
by WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus
Hell yes closings are relevant. Post here.

Arguments over the gov’t should go to the Hamsterdam side though.

Discuss the potential impacts of the virus on the sport, without politicizing it. It can be done.

There, both of you are right.

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:22 am
by tech37
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:11 am Hell yes closings are relevant. Post here.

Arguments over the gov’t should go to the Hamsterdam side though.

Discuss the potential impacts of the virus on the sport, without politicizing it. It can be done.

There, both of you are right.
Thanks wombat. That is what I've attempted to say...

We're all lax fans here... if info effects lacrosse and the 2020 season then of course it's relevant. Politics isn't.

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:10 pm
by xxxxxxx
An Inter Ac School outside Philadelphia had a student with a relative who has the virus. They have closed the school until March 29.

Re: School Closings

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:57 pm
by 44WeWantMore