Re: Orange Duce
Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 7:09 am
So, Teflon Don--he doesn't survive this, right? Will he actually be on the ballot when we all vote in November? How much of his seedy past can this man dodge?
Lack of remorse is a typical factor for upward consideration in sentencing.
And don't be surprised if these convictions give him a bump in the polls.DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:47 am Can't remember the last time I watched any of the morning "news" shows but I did this morning.
Cohen was outstanding on GMA, he echoed my opinion of Trump, absolutely nailed it. How those
millions upon millions see this slimy shyster as the man they want for their president is truly
disappointing, pre Trump I never realized who so many of my fellow citizens really are.
I've gotta wonder if Trump is still tired of winning. Millions upon millions in fines from lost cases,
34X convicted felon. The man's been making his bed for a lifetime, it's now time to lie down in it.
Oh, but you can still vote for him to be the face of your country.
Neal Brennan said we just add it to his tab.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:09 am So, Teflon Don--he doesn't survive this, right? Will he actually be on the ballot when we all vote in November? How much of his seedy past can this man dodge?
They like his policies.DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:47 am Can't remember the last time I watched any of the morning "news" shows but I did this morning.
Cohen was outstanding on GMA, he echoed my opinion of Trump, absolutely nailed it. How those
millions upon millions see this slimy shyster as the man they want for their president is truly
disappointing, pre Trump I never realized who so many of my fellow citizens really are.
I've gotta wonder if Trump is still tired of winning. Millions upon millions in fines from lost cases,
34X convicted felon. The man's been making his bed for a lifetime, it's now time to lie down in it.
Oh, but you can still vote for him to be the face of your country.
Starting to.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:00 amAnd don't be surprised if these convictions give him a bump in the polls.DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:47 am Can't remember the last time I watched any of the morning "news" shows but I did this morning.
Cohen was outstanding on GMA, he echoed my opinion of Trump, absolutely nailed it. How those
millions upon millions see this slimy shyster as the man they want for their president is truly
disappointing, pre Trump I never realized who so many of my fellow citizens really are.
I've gotta wonder if Trump is still tired of winning. Millions upon millions in fines from lost cases,
34X convicted felon. The man's been making his bed for a lifetime, it's now time to lie down in it.
Oh, but you can still vote for him to be the face of your country.My mom always use to say in regards to heathens like trump ...what goes around comes around. It looks like it has come around for trump.
Oh, they will.DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:47 am Can't remember the last time I watched any of the morning "news" shows but I did this morning.
Cohen was outstanding on GMA, he echoed my opinion of Trump, absolutely nailed it. How those
millions upon millions see this slimy shyster as the man they want for their president is truly
disappointing, pre Trump I never realized who so many of my fellow citizens really are.
I've gotta wonder if Trump is still tired of winning. Millions upon millions in fines from lost cases,
34X convicted felon. The man's been making his bed for a lifetime, it's now time to lie down in it.
Oh, but you can still vote for him to be the face of your country.
You want the real answer?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 10:08 pm What was different in the Jon Edwards case vs Trumps?
Oh, you can bank on it. That way, we get the "hey, you can't indict me! I'm running for President" game until Trump passes away.
It would not surprise me if trump gets convicted all the way to a second term. If that ever happens then the scowl on trumps face tells you every thing you need to know.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:54 amStarting to.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:00 amAnd don't be surprised if these convictions give him a bump in the polls.DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:47 am Can't remember the last time I watched any of the morning "news" shows but I did this morning.
Cohen was outstanding on GMA, he echoed my opinion of Trump, absolutely nailed it. How those
millions upon millions see this slimy shyster as the man they want for their president is truly
disappointing, pre Trump I never realized who so many of my fellow citizens really are.
I've gotta wonder if Trump is still tired of winning. Millions upon millions in fines from lost cases,
34X convicted felon. The man's been making his bed for a lifetime, it's now time to lie down in it.
Oh, but you can still vote for him to be the face of your country.My mom always use to say in regards to heathens like trump ...what goes around comes around. It looks like it has come around for trump.
4 major court losses in past year, personally, following numerous court losses corporately.
He’s now been adjudicated as a business fraudster, a sexual assaulter, and now criminally for election fraud.
I think this will not have much immediate impact on his core supporters other than hardening and energizing short term. Indeed, vociferous attacks on the system of justice as corrupt will become the litmus test for support as a “Republican”, in addition to supporting the Big Lie that the 2020 election was illegitimate. We are seeing a rush to be the first to do so the loudest already.
However, I think there will be a cumulative effect, as at every level Dem candidates will go after their R opponents for their support of Trump, demanding to know whether they respect our jury process and the rule of law. I think it’s an untenable position for any candidate in a swing district or state, and this will ultimately wear on independent and traditional R wavering support of Trump ‘policies’.
If he does lose, far from a foregone conclusion, I think it will be coupled with a loss of the House as the swing districts will reject the Republicans who don't distance themselves from Trump... and MAGA folks will reject anyone who doesn't pass the litmus test.
Nixon won in a landslide and 72OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:34 am OPINION
Will Trump’s convictions matter?
Running for reelection to the presidency as a convicted felon should be a big deal, not to mention a deal-breaker, to a big chunk of voters in the 2024 presidential election.
By Joan Vennochi Globe Columnist, May 30, 2024
Will 34 felony convictions matter? They should. But as Donald Trump said as he left the Manhattan courthouse on Thursday after hearing the jury’s guilty verdict, “We don’t have the same country anymore. We have a divided mess.”
Running for reelection to the presidency as a convicted felon should be a big deal, not to mention a deal-breaker, to a big chunk of voters in the 2024 presidential election. It would be under the old political rules. But the change in this country is the one thing Trump is right about — although he takes no responsibility for the switch to an angry, divided nation that has lost its sense of common purpose and values. Because of the political movement Trump created and now leads, it’s hard to say how this conviction will factor into the November election. Calling himself a “political prisoner” who was convicted “in a RIGGED political Witch Hunt,” Trump immediately fund-raised off the verdict.
Trump, of course, once bragged that he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue, shoot somebody, and not lose a single vote. Will that hold true now? Trump and the country are about to find out.
When he made that infamous prediction in January 2016, Trump was brash and confident. “It’s, like, incredible,” he said about the loyalty of his voters. After this verdict, he was less brash and more angry, less confident and more aggrieved. Filled with self-pity, he whined as usual about a “rigged trial by a conflicted judge” and said, “The real verdict is going to be Nov. 5 by the people, and they know what happened here.”
I hope Trump is right about that and the American people do know what happened in that courtroom. If they do, they will know that the former president stands convicted on 34 counts of perpetrating a fraud against them. They will know that he was convicted of hiding the purpose of payments made by his former fixer, Michael Cohen, to buy the silence of Stormy Daniels, an adult film actress who testified that she and Trump had a sexual encounter. They will also know that Trump bought her silence to keep that story from the American public right before the November 2016 election — to hide the truth from them and dupe them.
They also now know that he never took any responsibility for any of it and apparently never will. “We didn’t do a thing wrong,” he said as he left the courthouse, without specifying who he includes in “we.” The answer, of course, is anyone but him. He is a man who will never know the meaning of accountability because he has spent his life avoiding it.
Do American voters care about morality, principles, and accountability anymore? As much as immigration and the economy, character will be on the ballot in November. The 34 felony convictions made that a certainty for Trump. The question now is how much his character and criminal convictions matter to American voters.
Joan Vennochi is a Globe columnist. She can be reached at [email protected]. Follow her @joan_vennochi.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/05/30/ ... tion-2024/
... why did the rural mid-west folks during the depression root for the bank robbers?DMac wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:47 am Can't remember the last time I watched any of the morning "news" shows but I did this morning.
Cohen was outstanding on GMA, he echoed my opinion of Trump, absolutely nailed it. How those
millions upon millions see this slimy shyster as the man they want for their president is truly
disappointing, pre Trump I never realized who so many of my fellow citizens really are.
I've gotta wonder if Trump is still tired of winning. Millions upon millions in fines from lost cases,
34X convicted felon. The man's been making his bed for a lifetime, it's now time to lie down in it.
Oh, but you can still vote for him to be the face of your country.