ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Fauci shares no responsibility for the confusion on how things are handled?
Who does Fauci work for? And when Fauci writes his book, what you're telling me is that you're so naive that you're going to be surprised when Fauci writes in his book that TeamTrump pressured Fauci to say things he didn't want to say?
Come on. Enough with your contrarianism. You won't lose points if you say one bad thing about Trump.
You are wayyyy better than to play that silly game. You actually believe Fauci played the pawn to King Trump, to keep is job..... You cant be serious.
I'm saying that you and ABV have managed to convince yourself that Congress and Trump report to Fauci, and they simply do what he says.
Fauci ain't in charge. THAT is my point. And that ruffles your feathers, because you're upset that anyone is holding Trump accountable.
Meanwhile? You and both know that you and ABV are going to be ALL OVER Biden for how he handles the mess.
I love the fact that these guys point out what Fauci said in February when we didn’t have many cases and we were still learning about the virus.....When a coach’s game plan calls for no slides to a particular player and then the coach changes his mind after getting his lunch eaten in the first quarter, I wonder how many players say, “but coach you told us not to slide in the first quarter”.....I am hoping a sports analogy with a simple concept sticks.
ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Fauci shares no responsibility for the confusion on how things are handled?
Who does Fauci work for? And when Fauci writes his book, what you're telling me is that you're so naive that you're going to be surprised when Fauci writes in his book that TeamTrump pressured Fauci to say things he didn't want to say?
Come on. Enough with your contrarianism. You won't lose points if you say one bad thing about Trump.
You are wayyyy better than to play that silly game. You actually believe Fauci played the pawn to King Trump, to keep is job..... You cant be serious.
I'm saying that you and ABV have managed to convince yourself that Congress and Trump report to Fauci, and they simply do what he says.
Fauci ain't in charge. THAT is my point. And that ruffles your feathers, because you're upset that anyone is holding Trump accountable.
Meanwhile? You and both know that you and ABV are going to be ALL OVER Biden for how he handles the mess.
I love the fact that these guys point out what Fauci said in February when we didn’t have many cases and we were still learning about the virus.....When a coach’s game plan calls for no slides to a particular player and then the coach changes his mind after getting his lunch eaten in the first quarter, I wonder how many players say, “but coach you told us not to slide in the first quarter”.....I am hoping a sports analogy with a simple concept sticks.
We both know they'd be complaining if Fauci didn't change a single word this entire time.
We're supposed to have this virus completely figured out in less than a year. Oh, and no matter what? It's everyone else' s fault except Trump's.
I wonder if Ghouliani still thinks the virus is a Democratic party hoax.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:02 pm
by Matnum PI
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:05 pm
I love the fact that these guys point out what Fauci said in February when we didn’t have many cases and we were still learning about the virus...
...and we were running short on facemasks for frontline workers. This was during the toilet paper, paper towel, etc. shortage and... facemasks. so Fauci says, People, wait on the facemasks. and the interviewer explicitly speaks to the shortage and Fauci laughs and says, Yes. Now, 10 months later, someone points a finger and says, See! Even Fauci is saying we don't need facemasks, etc. It's ridiculous...
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:05 pm
I love the fact that these guys point out what Fauci said in February when we didn’t have many cases and we were still learning about the virus...
...and we were running short on facemasks for frontline workers. This was during the toilet paper, paper towel, etc. shortage and... facemasks. so Fauci says, People, wait on the facemasks. and the interviewer explicitly speaks to the shortage and Fauci laughs and says, Yes. Now, 10 months later, someone points a finger and says, See! Even Fauci is saying we don't need facemasks, etc. It's ridiculous...
It is ridiculous. People seem to have lost all context....yet this guy had no impact on the USA response:
And he has “sense” admitted that he was lying.....yet not a peep.
Clown man said “35,000 on average die each year from the flu and that’s a lot of people”....we are closing in on 300,000 and it hasn’t been a year.... but hey, last February Fauci said we don’t need to wear masks (yet).
I don’t know if Trump is President but he will be able to say that he played one on TV. That montage is brutal.
ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Fauci shares no responsibility for the confusion on how things are handled?
Who does Fauci work for? And when Fauci writes his book, what you're telling me is that you're so naive that you're going to be surprised when Fauci writes in his book that TeamTrump pressured Fauci to say things he didn't want to say?
Come on. Enough with your contrarianism. You won't lose points if you say one bad thing about Trump.
You are wayyyy better than to play that silly game. You actually believe Fauci played the pawn to King Trump, to keep is job..... You cant be serious. You must be just trying to pick a fight or it's a slow day on the floor today. And if you actually do believe that ...... then Fauci has to be a fraud to intentionally go against his hippocratic oath. So which one is it?
So Dr. Fauci is the first Federal employee in the history of our nation that has to deal with political considerations while doing his job?
Do you get the hives when someone MIGHT say something bad about Trump, or something?
You never answered the question....then tried to spin away from it.
ABV is arguing, like me, that Fauci is just as culpable, was naïve, or over confident....or doing his very best all things considered. Yet, the Monday morning quarterbacks around here want to pin it all on Trump; I don't see you as a TLD or Brooklyn type.
Dr. Fauci was 'the man' that most all media outlets were listening too and reporting on, it also may very well be why Pelosi was also saying go to China town and party very late in February. This was a time just before Fauci was in the White House CV-19 TaskForce each day. If memory serves me, you too, have openly admitted around these parts, that this virus caught us all by surprise and the one thing it exposed, is that we were caught with our pants. down.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:31 am
by dislaxxic
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:08 amYou never answered the question....then tried to spin away from it.
ABV is arguing, like me, that Fauci is just as culpable, was naïve, or over confident....or doing his very best all things considered. Yet, the Monday morning quarterbacks around here want to pin it all on Trump; I don't see you as a TLD or Brooklyn type.
Dr. Fauci was 'the man' that most all media outlets were listening too and reporting on, it also may very well be why Pelosi was also saying go to China town and party very late in February. This was a time just before Fauci was in the White House CV-19 TaskForce each day. If memory serves me, you too, have openly admitted around these parts, that this virus caught us all by surprise and the one thing it exposed, is that we were caught with our pants. down.
"Fauci is just as culpable."
OK, so now we have to start reconsidering the "you're better than that" comments in this case. Honest to gawd.
Trump didn't "cause" the virus. True.
Trump CAUSED the PANDEMIC to be WORSE here in the US. Full STOP.
It's time to change this thread title to "All Things Trump Pandemic"
It was a hoax. It was the Dems politicizing the virus. It was lie after lie after lie about the seriousness of the SPREAD of this virus.
ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Fauci shares no responsibility for the confusion on how things are handled?
Who does Fauci work for? And when Fauci writes his book, what you're telling me is that you're so naive that you're going to be surprised when Fauci writes in his book that TeamTrump pressured Fauci to say things he didn't want to say?
Come on. Enough with your contrarianism. You won't lose points if you say one bad thing about Trump.
You are wayyyy better than to play that silly game. You actually believe Fauci played the pawn to King Trump, to keep is job..... You cant be serious. You must be just trying to pick a fight or it's a slow day on the floor today. And if you actually do believe that ...... then Fauci has to be a fraud to intentionally go against his hippocratic oath. So which one is it?
So Dr. Fauci is the first Federal employee in the history of our nation that has to deal with political considerations while doing his job?
Do you get the hives when someone MIGHT say something bad about Trump, or something?
You never answered the question....then tried to spin away from it.
ABV is arguing, like me, that Fauci is just as culpable, was naïve, or over confident....or doing his very best all things considered. Yet, the Monday morning quarterbacks around here want to pin it all on Trump; I don't see you as a TLD or Brooklyn type.
Dr. Fauci was 'the man' that most all media outlets were listening too and reporting on, it also may very well be why Pelosi was also saying go to China town and party very late in February. This was a time just before Fauci was in the White House CV-19 TaskForce each day. If memory serves me, you too, have openly admitted around these parts, that this virus caught us all by surprise and the one thing it exposed, is that we were caught with our pants. down.
To point to Fauci’s early mask comment and use that to suggest he’s even slightly as culpable as Trump in how bad Covid has become in the US is being disingenuous, unfair, and frankly stupid.
Fauci never had the presidential bully pulpit available to him that, when used properly, comes with that office. Trump could have done great things.
Fauci did not incessantly flip flop and send conflicting messages. Even when he was suggesting less than ideal mask use he was still making statements re: the severe nature of the virus. He never once said it would miraculously go away.
Fauci never went on national tv one Thursday in April to tell Americans to follow the advice of their local government leaders because they were in the best position to create an effective, local strategy to deal with the conditions in their state, and then go on the president’s preferred communication vehicle THE VERY NEXT DAY to urge people in states to go against those very same local plans.
ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Fauci shares no responsibility for the confusion on how things are handled?
Who does Fauci work for? And when Fauci writes his book, what you're telling me is that you're so naive that you're going to be surprised when Fauci writes in his book that TeamTrump pressured Fauci to say things he didn't want to say?
Come on. Enough with your contrarianism. You won't lose points if you say one bad thing about Trump.
You are wayyyy better than to play that silly game. You actually believe Fauci played the pawn to King Trump, to keep is job..... You cant be serious. You must be just trying to pick a fight or it's a slow day on the floor today. And if you actually do believe that ...... then Fauci has to be a fraud to intentionally go against his hippocratic oath. So which one is it?
So Dr. Fauci is the first Federal employee in the history of our nation that has to deal with political considerations while doing his job?
Do you get the hives when someone MIGHT say something bad about Trump, or something?
You never answered the question....then tried to spin away from it.
ABV is arguing, like me, that Fauci is just as culpable, was naïve, or over confident....or doing his very best all things considered. Yet, the Monday morning quarterbacks around here want to pin it all on Trump; I don't see you as a TLD or Brooklyn type.
Dr. Fauci was 'the man' that most all media outlets were listening too and reporting on, it also may very well be why Pelosi was also saying go to China town and party very late in February. This was a time just before Fauci was in the White House CV-19 TaskForce each day. If memory serves me, you too, have openly admitted around these parts, that this virus caught us all by surprise and the one thing it exposed, is that we were caught with our pants. down.
“Dr. Fauci was the man”. “Caught with our pants down”...what happened to “Spitballing”?
So who here (on both sides) took their pandemic safety/medical advice from Trump or ANY of these politicians for the Past 9 mos?
Out of curiosity. Full honesty.
Is the left mad at some measurable, adverse effects Trump actually caused? Or in the case of Trump for his whole presidency (and politics in general) one side just didn't like the opposite, mean, idiotic, empty words the other side said?
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:27 am
by dislaxxic
Respectfully, Kramer...we have - largely - folks on this board that are informed, (at least) semi-literate people that tend to keep up with the news.
Survey the group that went to the big motorcycle rally in South Dakota. Or maybe, any of the attendees at any of the recent Trump rallies. The ACB announcement event at the White House?
I'm going to go out on a limb and HOPE you're not warming up for a comment along the line of "what the president or his leadership group says about a given topic doesn't really make a difference..."
..
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:33 am
by kramerica.inc
dislaxxic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:27 am
Respectfully, Kramer...we have - largely - folks on this board that are informed, (at least) semi-literate people that tend to keep up with the news.
Survey the group that went to the big motorcycle rally in South Dakota. Or maybe, any of the attendees at any of the recent Trump rallies. The ACB announcement event at the White House?
I'm going to go out on a limb and HOPE you're not warming up for a comment along the line of "what the president or his leadership group says about a given topic doesn't really make a difference..."
..
No. I'm trying to reckon how protests were deemed NOT spreader events when I watched them first hand and they were no different than that Bicycle Rally in SD. Limited and inconsistent mask use, very close proximity, outside etc. One side just SAID that they were safe. The other was openly not.
You and I both know saw it if you're being honest with yourself.
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:35 am
by Typical Lax Dad
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:21 am
So who here (on both sides) took their pandemic safety/medical advice from Trump or ANY of these politicians for the Past 9 mos?
Out of curiosity. Full honesty.
Is the left mad at some measurable, adverse effects Trump actually caused? Or in the case of Trump for his whole presidency (and politics in general) one side just didn't like the opposite, mean, idiotic, empty words the other side said?
Our governor and town officials have done a good job. I have listened to Fauci, Birx and other CDC and WHO officials supplemented by my own readings. It has been documented that people have died because they believe the Virus to be a hoax. I can recall one prominent official in particular calling it a hoax. What about you?
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:05 pm
I love the fact that these guys point out what Fauci said in February when we didn’t have many cases and we were still learning about the virus...
...and we were running short on facemasks for frontline workers. This was during the toilet paper, paper towel, etc. shortage and... facemasks. so Fauci says, People, wait on the facemasks. and the interviewer explicitly speaks to the shortage and Fauci laughs and says, Yes. Now, 10 months later, someone points a finger and says, See! Even Fauci is saying we don't need facemasks, etc. It's ridiculous...
I don't understand how front line workers can be running low on facemasks? The 3 stores that I go to, Wegmans, Home Depot and Wal Mart have 100s if not thousands of boxes of facemasks on their shelves. They have equally a plentiful supply of hand sanitizer. Maybe the hospital supply people should get a PO and take a trip to any big box store and stock up.
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:05 pm
I love the fact that these guys point out what Fauci said in February when we didn’t have many cases and we were still learning about the virus...
...and we were running short on facemasks for frontline workers. This was during the toilet paper, paper towel, etc. shortage and... facemasks. so Fauci says, People, wait on the facemasks. and the interviewer explicitly speaks to the shortage and Fauci laughs and says, Yes. Now, 10 months later, someone points a finger and says, See! Even Fauci is saying we don't need facemasks, etc. It's ridiculous...
I don't understand how front line workers can be running low on facemasks? The 3 stores that I go to, Wegmans, Home Depot and Wal Mart have 100s if not thousands of boxes of facemasks on their shelves. They have equally a plentiful supply of hand sanitizer. Maybe the hospital supply people should get a PO and take a trip to any big box store and stock up.
You are confusing February with December. We had two local companies donate PPE to hospitals out of their supply.
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:05 pm
I love the fact that these guys point out what Fauci said in February when we didn’t have many cases and we were still learning about the virus...
...and we were running short on facemasks for frontline workers. This was during the toilet paper, paper towel, etc. shortage and... facemasks. so Fauci says, People, wait on the facemasks. and the interviewer explicitly speaks to the shortage and Fauci laughs and says, Yes. Now, 10 months later, someone points a finger and says, See! Even Fauci is saying we don't need facemasks, etc. It's ridiculous...
I don't understand how front line workers can be running low on facemasks? The 3 stores that I go to, Wegmans, Home Depot and Wal Mart have 100s if not thousands of boxes of facemasks on their shelves. They have equally a plentiful supply of hand sanitizer. Maybe the hospital supply people should get a PO and take a trip to any big box store and stock up.
Somehow I doubt they are N95 masks in the big box stores...
You cant be serious.