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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
by wgdsr
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:08 am
by Typical Lax Dad
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:32 am "make claims"? No, it's simply an opinion, with explanation of why.

This is a discussion forum.

I listened to the clip where you suggested. Solid answer, your issue?

Again, I see no benefit to exaggeration for Biden on this matter. The reality is and will be a grossly, obscenely large # of deaths in the next two months, no need to exaggerate for further effect.

You're free to disagree.

On Trump's responsibility for many of these deaths, I think that's accurate...trying to be precise about how many is nonsensical, but sure, this President's mishandling of this crisis has costs thousands of lives, I'd say easily tens of thousands of lives more than should have been lost given a competent response from the President.

Again, my opinion and I've previously explained that logic as well...not going to keep repeating it.
Donald Trump made the virus about politics. I am not sure how that is helpful.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:30 am
by ABV 8.3%
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:08 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:32 am "make claims"? No, it's simply an opinion, with explanation of why.

This is a discussion forum.

I listened to the clip where you suggested. Solid answer, your issue?

Again, I see no benefit to exaggeration for Biden on this matter. The reality is and will be a grossly, obscenely large # of deaths in the next two months, no need to exaggerate for further effect.

You're free to disagree.

On Trump's responsibility for many of these deaths, I think that's accurate...trying to be precise about how many is nonsensical, but sure, this President's mishandling of this crisis has costs thousands of lives, I'd say easily tens of thousands of lives more than should have been lost given a competent response from the President.

Again, my opinion and I've previously explained that logic as well...not going to keep repeating it.
Donald Trump made the virus about politics. I am not sure how that is helpful.
....to sink to his level. got it :roll:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:41 am
by wgdsr
ggait wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:56 pm
i guess 100 days is the number. i would be interested to know how they came up with the number, how we're doing things. i was cynical of politicians in the early 90s. needless to say, i still am.
Every incoming US president talks about his top priorities in terms of the first hundred days. Maybe FDR was the one who started it.

So asking citizens to suck it up for the first hundred days is something (rhetorically) that is quite common/familiar/expected around transition/inauguration time.

TBH, the 100 days of masks (April 20) will very likely need to be extended further. But the most impactful thing is for people to hunker down in Dec/Jan/Feb/March.

So pretty good stuff coming from Joe. Maybe he's not so stupid and demented after all?
everybody has takes. i'm familiar with the 100 day plan. yes, they're priorities that a prez wants to address (check), but they're also typically addressing issues legislative or exec order or policy that carry not so much precision and sciencey on actual time and date done. and if it will "very likely need to be extended', putting the limited time on it would seem counterproductive in some corners?

anyway, my post in toto was on several things i noted. no doubt biden and co. will do a number of positive things on covid. they will make missteps.

what i'm more interested in than any marginal benefit or detriment to a mask ask at this point is the vaccine rollout and how it's executed. joe's played some politics with that already, but that also matters little if they can simply take a large task and help execute it fairly well. i see joe hasn't brought up the covax agreement again recently to move our vaccine lineup out to other countries earlier.

still waiting on whether astrazeneca can be the big early producer. they're the key to moving timelines up for us in the first part of the year. delays and them not getting their story straight hasn't been helping them throughout. including now.

https://www.reuters.com/article/health- ... SL8N2II4TS

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:44 am
by Typical Lax Dad
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:30 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:08 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:32 am "make claims"? No, it's simply an opinion, with explanation of why.

This is a discussion forum.

I listened to the clip where you suggested. Solid answer, your issue?

Again, I see no benefit to exaggeration for Biden on this matter. The reality is and will be a grossly, obscenely large # of deaths in the next two months, no need to exaggerate for further effect.

You're free to disagree.

On Trump's responsibility for many of these deaths, I think that's accurate...trying to be precise about how many is nonsensical, but sure, this President's mishandling of this crisis has costs thousands of lives, I'd say easily tens of thousands of lives more than should have been lost given a competent response from the President.

Again, my opinion and I've previously explained that logic as well...not going to keep repeating it.
Donald Trump made the virus about politics. I am not sure how that is helpful.
....to sink to his level. got it :roll:
No. You can defend and deflect. Waiting on you to give old Joe a pass at every turn ... you hip old critter you!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
by MDlaxfan76
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:06 pm
by wgdsr
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.
no idea. anecdotal reports (someone on fanlax maybe even chimed in with an experience) were that tests were being saved up a bit for a possible post-thanksgiving rush. last week and a half coulda been anything. people travelling, folks taking "check up or check in" tests but not really covid candidates otherwise weren't getting them for their job or whatever. or reporting backed up.
like i said, screwy. we'll know more in the next week, more likely 2 as the past 7 days don't give a good comparison.

was in a hospital last night. ghost town. very low incidence in our community compared to a lot of places, though. someone's gonna need to tell the docs there about joe's new mask ask.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:08 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.
no idea. anecdotal reports (someone on fanlax maybe even chimed in with an experience) were that tests were being saved up a bit for a possible post-thanksgiving rush. last week and a half coulda been anything. people travelling, folks taking "check up or check in" tests but not really covid candidates otherwise weren't getting them for their job or whatever. or reporting backed up.
like i said, screwy. we'll know more in the next week, more likely 2 as the past 7 days don't give a good comparison.

was in a hospital last night. ghost town. very low incidence in our community compared to a lot of places, though. someone's gonna need to tell the docs there about joe's new mask ask.
What do they have to lose?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:00 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:08 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.
no idea. anecdotal reports (someone on fanlax maybe even chimed in with an experience) were that tests were being saved up a bit for a possible post-thanksgiving rush. last week and a half coulda been anything. people travelling, folks taking "check up or check in" tests but not really covid candidates otherwise weren't getting them for their job or whatever. or reporting backed up.
like i said, screwy. we'll know more in the next week, more likely 2 as the past 7 days don't give a good comparison.

was in a hospital last night. ghost town. very low incidence in our community compared to a lot of places, though. someone's gonna need to tell the docs there about joe's new mask ask.
What do they have to lose?
them? probably not much. they have to be there anyway, as opposed to someone choosing to go somewhere. they know how to use one, mask is better than most and rotated. maybe just ease of breathing on a 12 hour shift, not getting a directive heard wrong? that's probably the list.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:04 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:08 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.
no idea. anecdotal reports (someone on fanlax maybe even chimed in with an experience) were that tests were being saved up a bit for a possible post-thanksgiving rush. last week and a half coulda been anything. people travelling, folks taking "check up or check in" tests but not really covid candidates otherwise weren't getting them for their job or whatever. or reporting backed up.
like i said, screwy. we'll know more in the next week, more likely 2 as the past 7 days don't give a good comparison.

was in a hospital last night. ghost town. very low incidence in our community compared to a lot of places, though. someone's gonna need to tell the docs there about joe's new mask ask.
What do they have to lose?
them? probably not much. they have to be there anyway, as opposed to someone choosing to go somewhere. they know how to use one, mask is better than most. maybe just ease of breathing on a 12 hour shift, not getting a directive heard wrong? that's probably the list.
Couldn’t resist. My sister is a nurse, as I mentioned. My mother in law was in the hospital here 2 months ago. Glad it was then instead of now.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:48 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:11 pm
by youthathletics
Worth sharing: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go ... s-74525278

World War II vet beats COVID-19, marks 104th birthday


Also 102 year old woman survives Spanish Flu and CV19: https://www.instagram.com/p/CIbRL-JHJsx ... dmyhqer8mh

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:13 pm
by wgdsr
so it's contagious?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:16 pm
by wgdsr
youthathletics wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:11 pm Worth sharing: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go ... s-74525278

World War II vet beats COVID-19, marks 104th birthday
guy's a tank.
monoclonals would be great especially if "working", but no large numbers for them. should be used in cases like this as much as possible. he'll probably outlive us all.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:22 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:13 pm
so it's contagious?
Not all equally....

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:23 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:16 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:11 pm Worth sharing: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go ... s-74525278

World War II vet beats COVID-19, marks 104th birthday
guy's a tank.
monoclonals would be great especially if "working", but no large numbers for them. should be used in cases like this as much as possible. he'll probably outlive us all.
Glad he made it. Someone here would argue he has used up all of his useful life. Thanks for posting that.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:28 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:23 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:16 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:11 pm Worth sharing: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go ... s-74525278

World War II vet beats COVID-19, marks 104th birthday
guy's a tank.
monoclonals would be great especially if "working", but no large numbers for them. should be used in cases like this as much as possible. he'll probably outlive us all.
Glad he made it. Someone here would argue he has used up all of his useful life. Thanks for posting that.
the main issue may also be they need to be used early. which we have failed to utilize and study well for a number of therapeutics.

catch 22 with limited supply is then who gets them, if early. if it helped, awesome.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:50 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:28 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:23 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:16 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:11 pm Worth sharing: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go ... s-74525278

World War II vet beats COVID-19, marks 104th birthday
guy's a tank.
monoclonals would be great especially if "working", but no large numbers for them. should be used in cases like this as much as possible. he'll probably outlive us all.
Glad he made it. Someone here would argue he has used up all of his useful life. Thanks for posting that.
the main issue may also be they need to be used early. which we have failed to utilize and study well for a number of therapeutics.

catch 22 with limited supply is then who gets them, if early. if it helped, awesome.
Yep. Just glad to see a guy like that stick around.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:24 pm
by njbill
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:28 pm catch 22 with limited supply is then who gets them, if early.
The finance guys, of course.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:52 pm
by RedFromMI
Another reason to wear a mask (video at link):

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/lx/anot ... wt_PHBrand
Another Reason to Wear a Mask: COVID-19 May Cause Erectile Dysfunction

Although COVID-19 treatments have improved and a vaccine is on the way, even a mild case of the virus can cause long-term complications — including the possibility of erectile dysfunction. Infectious disease expert Dr. Dena Grayson joined LX News with a warning not to let our guards down as we wait for a vaccine.