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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:05 pm
by RedFromMI
I know of two students at my school who have contracted COVID-19 twice.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:34 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
RedFromMI wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:05 pm
I know of two students at my school who have contracted COVID-19 twice.
Thanks.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:46 pm
by Brooklyn
the real reason why covid is killing and causing so much misery:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUpTqFl ... obertReich




As always, while it is fashionable and politically correct to blame Demnocrats, the real cause of the problem is the rePUKEblicans.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
by wgdsr
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!

https://thl.fi/en/web/infectious-diseas ... r-citizens

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:34 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!
i dunno. but mdlax says they did great and he says mask use is the deal. so he's saying we should've modeled them

i don't think it would've worked, but ask him

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:35 pm
by wgdsr
RedFromMI wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:05 pm
I know of two students at my school who have contracted COVID-19 twice.
that would be really odd. 2 at one school without much worldwide confirm on reinfection

what were there ct amplifications the 2nd time?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:41 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!
i dunno. but mdlax says they did great and he says mask use is the deal. so he's saying we should've modeled them

i don't think it would've worked, but ask him
My guess is leadership in those countries managed it and didn’t suggest “liberating their states” and claimed it was a hoax.... we could have modeled best practices like most sane “management”.
Coaches do it all the time. Take a little of this, take a little of that and tailor it to their personnel and conference.....not sure anyone has said, everyone needs to copy the Chiefs....steal some stuff makes more sense.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:41 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!
i dunno. but mdlax says they did great and he says mask use is the deal. so he's saying we should've modeled them

i don't think it would've worked, but ask him
My guess is leadership in those countries managed it and didn’t suggest “liberating their states” and claimed it was a hoax.... we could have modeled best practices like most sane “management”.
Coaches do it all the time. Take a little of this, take a little of that and tailor it to their personnel and conference.....not sure anyone has said, everyone needs to copy the Chiefs....steal some stuff makes more sense.
great concept. so advocate little mask use with some other stuff, then? right?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:56 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:41 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!
i dunno. but mdlax says they did great and he says mask use is the deal. so he's saying we should've modeled them

i don't think it would've worked, but ask him
My guess is leadership in those countries managed it and didn’t suggest “liberating their states” and claimed it was a hoax.... we could have modeled best practices like most sane “management”.
Coaches do it all the time. Take a little of this, take a little of that and tailor it to their personnel and conference.....not sure anyone has said, everyone needs to copy the Chiefs....steal some stuff makes more sense.
great concept. so advocate little mask use with some other stuff, then? right?
If you are socially distant and not congregating inside, mask use can be used sparingly.

https://thl.fi/en/web/infectious-diseas ... r-citizens


Shops and shopping malls
Gaming and betting shops
Post offices, banks, libraries and similar indoor spaces
Facilities for physical activities, exercise and sports venues and audience areas (at least in the public areas and dressing rooms)
Swimming pools, outdoor swimming pools, spas and saunas (public areas and dressing rooms)
Churches and other religious community spaces
Concert halls and other live music venues
Theatres and other performance venues
Cinemas and other venues for screening films and audiovisual works
Museums and galleries
Amusement and theme parks and other indoor attractions
Festivals, fairs and markets if held indoors
Conference and exhibition centres and facilities for organising meetings, trade fairs and other similar events

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:04 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:56 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:41 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!
i dunno. but mdlax says they did great and he says mask use is the deal. so he's saying we should've modeled them

i don't think it would've worked, but ask him
My guess is leadership in those countries managed it and didn’t suggest “liberating their states” and claimed it was a hoax.... we could have modeled best practices like most sane “management”.
Coaches do it all the time. Take a little of this, take a little of that and tailor it to their personnel and conference.....not sure anyone has said, everyone needs to copy the Chiefs....steal some stuff makes more sense.
great concept. so advocate little mask use with some other stuff, then? right?
If you are socially distant and not congregating inside, mask use can be used sparingly.
séems to me, a huge chunk of america has mask mandates inside. and those places still have had increased cases. europe, too. mandates everywhere since august.

but going with that.... why are outside sports cance!ed everywhere? aren't they listening to science?

anyway... where are the stats on denmark and finland vs u.s. social distancing and why aren't we advocating that instead of screaming at masks? mdlax says that'll work better.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:16 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:04 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:56 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:41 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!
i dunno. but mdlax says they did great and he says mask use is the deal. so he's saying we should've modeled them

i don't think it would've worked, but ask him
My guess is leadership in those countries managed it and didn’t suggest “liberating their states” and claimed it was a hoax.... we could have modeled best practices like most sane “management”.
Coaches do it all the time. Take a little of this, take a little of that and tailor it to their personnel and conference.....not sure anyone has said, everyone needs to copy the Chiefs....steal some stuff makes more sense.
great concept. so advocate little mask use with some other stuff, then? right?
If you are socially distant and not congregating inside, mask use can be used sparingly.
séems to me, a huge chunk of america has mask mandates inside. and those places still have had increased cases. europe, too. mandates everywhere since august.

but going with that.... why are outside sports cance!ed everywhere? aren't they listening to science?

anyway... where are the stats on denmark and finland vs u.s. social distancing and why aren't we advocating that instead of screaming at masks? mdlax says that'll work better.
We tried with social distancing but we needed to liberate the states and open up......masks are another set in the play book. Outside sports are cancelled probably because those athletes come in contact with many who aren’t. Just a guess.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:29 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:04 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:56 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:41 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!
i dunno. but mdlax says they did great and he says mask use is the deal. so he's saying we should've modeled them

i don't think it would've worked, but ask him
My guess is leadership in those countries managed it and didn’t suggest “liberating their states” and claimed it was a hoax.... we could have modeled best practices like most sane “management”.
Coaches do it all the time. Take a little of this, take a little of that and tailor it to their personnel and conference.....not sure anyone has said, everyone needs to copy the Chiefs....steal some stuff makes more sense.
great concept. so advocate little mask use with some other stuff, then? right?
If you are socially distant and not congregating inside, mask use can be used sparingly.
séems to me, a huge chunk of america has mask mandates inside. and those places still have had increased cases. europe, too. mandates everywhere since august.

but going with that.... why are outside sports cance!ed everywhere? aren't they listening to science?

anyway... where are the stats on denmark and finland vs u.s. social distancing and why aren't we advocating that instead of screaming at masks? mdlax says that'll work better.
We tried with social distancing but we needed to liberate the states and open up......masks are another set in the play book. Outside sports are cancelled probably because those athletes come in contact with many who aren’t. Just a guess.
fit in narratives where they can jam.in!
no sports in denmark or finland i'm guessing! or they're 6 feet apart!

liberate the states meant we couldn't say social distancing vs masks? weird, we were supposed to copy them but blew it and said masks instead.

denmark and finland! copy or be damned on fanlax!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:04 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:29 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:16 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:04 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:56 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:41 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:31 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
denmark, finland... sound like you are advocating for no real mask use.

i don't think that would've played in today's media environment.
Those countries didn’t worry about social distancing either??!!
i dunno. but mdlax says they did great and he says mask use is the deal. so he's saying we should've modeled them

i don't think it would've worked, but ask him
My guess is leadership in those countries managed it and didn’t suggest “liberating their states” and claimed it was a hoax.... we could have modeled best practices like most sane “management”.
Coaches do it all the time. Take a little of this, take a little of that and tailor it to their personnel and conference.....not sure anyone has said, everyone needs to copy the Chiefs....steal some stuff makes more sense.
great concept. so advocate little mask use with some other stuff, then? right?
If you are socially distant and not congregating inside, mask use can be used sparingly.
séems to me, a huge chunk of america has mask mandates inside. and those places still have had increased cases. europe, too. mandates everywhere since august.

but going with that.... why are outside sports cance!ed everywhere? aren't they listening to science?

anyway... where are the stats on denmark and finland vs u.s. social distancing and why aren't we advocating that instead of screaming at masks? mdlax says that'll work better.
We tried with social distancing but we needed to liberate the states and open up......masks are another set in the play book. Outside sports are cancelled probably because those athletes come in contact with many who aren’t. Just a guess.
fit in narratives where they can jam.in!
no sports in denmark or finland i'm guessing! or they're 6 feet apart!

liberate the states meant we couldn't say social distancing vs masks? weird, we were supposed to copy them but blew it and said masks instead.

denmark and finland! copy or be damned on fanlax!
They don’t have the pressure of youth and amateur sports like we do here. Not sure if Ajax youth academy is playing soccer games. My friend’s son is going to school in England (for soccer....he is 13) and they have only trained.....no games....as for liberate the state, nope. You see those folks storm state capitals....we are big on personal irresponsibility here!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:10 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:13 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:04 pm They don’t have the pressure or youth and amateur sports like we do here. Not sure if Ajax youth academy is playing soccer games. My friend’s son is going to school in England (for soccer....he is 13) and they have only trained.....no games....as for liberate the state, nope. You see those folks storm state capitals....we are on personal irresponsibility here!
i'm not sure how we got here.
public high schools are all high pressure and so they must be shut down? what a turn.

if you don't say liberate the states, the virus shuts down. who would've known? illinois begs to differ. as do dozens of states.

no masks was the deal. had we copied it, we would've saved "200,000 lives".

danes and fins!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:18 pm
by wgdsr
this was march 12th? around the same time we cancelled the nba, mlb, nhl and about every college and high school sport (and in school instruction)? should we have cancelled them twice?

let's be finland!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:18 pm
by MDlaxfan76
I was having a pleasant day hitting golf balls...

I'm a 'defense in depth' kinda guy.

The disease spreads through the air, particularly extended exposure. Reduce the exposure, reduce the spread.

All sorts of measures can reduce the spread, my 'prescription' would be to layer these in as many situations as possible, while enabling society to continue as the data rolled in on particular aspects.

Distancing # 1, masks right behind distancing and yes, even mandated, when distancing can't be fully maintained. More outside, more air flow dispersion, better filtration, keep adding layers of defense in order to as much as possible to enable economy and continued social interaction for those most in need of such.

More PPE, more test, trace and isolate...all helping.

Re data rolling in, seems to me that as the data has revealed that schooling for youngsters is very important, yet can be accomplished with relatively little spread IF there are mitigation measures in place, distancing, masks, testing etc...then prioritize that over activities which really don't need to be done, eg bars and concerts and...

Ideally mandates and enforcement aren't necessary for society to wholeheartedly embrace these measures, and certainly the right leadership at each level can impact that social response. But we had exactly the opposite of the necessary leadership.

And perhaps a certain degree of resistance was to be expected, in contrast to societies which had recently experienced deadly virus scares and which were therefore better psychologically prepared to put on a mask, assist to with contact tracing, etc.

There's no doubt that our American society has a large element of 'don't tread on me' resistance to anything the government or experts suggest...and unfortunately that's exactly why rules and enforcement are actually necessary here...we can't just rely on the goodwill of the community, though that SHOULD have been the communication at each and every step as well...

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:20 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:18 pm
this was march 12th? around the same time we cancelled the nba, mlb, nhl and about every college and high school sport (and in school instruction)? should we have cancelled them twice?

let's be finland!
I couldn’t find a later article. You can take a look. Youth sports in europe aren’t rampant like they are here....

Let’s take best practices! You rather we take on worst practices?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:22 pm
by wgdsr
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:18 pm I was having a pleasant day hitting golf balls...

I'm a 'defense in depth' kinda guy.

The disease spreads through the air, particularly extended exposure. Reduce the exposure, reduce the spread.

All sorts of measures can reduce the spread, my 'prescription' would be to layer these in as many situations as possible, while enabling society to continue as the data rolled in on particular aspects.

Distancing # 1, masks right behind distancing and yes, mandated, when distancing can't be fully maintained. More outside, more air flow dispersion, better filtration, keep adding layers of defense in order to as much as possible to enable economy and continued social interaction for those most in need of such.

More PPE, more test, trace and isolate...all helping.

Re data rolling in, seems to me that as the data has revealed that schooling for youngsters is very important, yet can be accomplished with relatively little spread IF there are mitigation measures in place, distancing, masks, testing etc...then prioritize that over activities which really don't need to be done, eg bars and concerts and...
this is so frustrating. i don't know what to tell people anymore. you just said we should be like denmark and finland and not have masks. but now masks. ready to give up.